Liv Golf Central Thread: Events and News

[GrumpyGolf]

5 minutes ago, Riverboat said:

Zero interest.

Zip. Zilch. Nada.

[Middler]

I don't know even know when or where it will be broadcast. But I couldn't care less, won't be watching. I'm only interested at all, to see it fail...

[tony@CIC]

Nope - couldn't care less about LIV  

[RollingGreens]

1 hour ago, Middler said:

This isn't a typical challenger by any means. There just aren't many organizations willing to throw such big money into challenging the PGA. Their product has withstood, and continues to, any challenger on a level playing field?

If LIV makes it through this year and once the Fed ex cup finishes I would expect more defectors. Players will take the money regardless of where it comes from. How much it will challenge the product the tour puts out has yet to be seen. 

[revkev]

I have very little time to both watch and play golf - given the choice I always play.  For example I haven't seen the final round of a Masters in years because I'm normally playing at that time.  I also enjoy Hockey and Baseball more than watching golf.  Plus frankly its a pretty lean field - just not interested at this time beyond the attempt of a go at it and how the dynamic between the two major world tours and the LIV will play out.  I do recall the days of the AFL and ABA so I know it's possible for an alternative league to start and succeed but for every success there has been multiple failures.  I was very young but I do recall all the lawsuits between the AFL and NFL, the alternative drafts where players had to choose - it worked out in the end - 

[russtopherb]

I don't watch any other minor sports leagues where washed up former pros go, so why would I watch this one?

[tony@CIC]

It'll also be interesting to see how the individual player sponsors handle this, i.e. Michelson and KPMG. Will sponsors like this drop the players?

[GolfSpy_APH]

So for those who formally resign their membership, what is the process they would have to do in order to reapply to get back on tour if they chose to?

[KC Golf]

Zero interest.  I really hope no major network will pick it up either.

 

[GolfSpy_APH]

I said this in the other LIV thread, but yeah I'm going to tune in for at least a little bit out of the curiousity for how bad or average the coverage is. I'm not going to set my alarm to watch, but my curiosity definitely has me interested to see how this first event goes and what the product is like. 

I'm not a supporter or fan of this series, however as it effects my other golf watching I feel I should at least see what its like even if only for 20 minutes. No Faldo is also a bonus...

[Berg Ryman]

41 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

So for those who formally resign their membership, what is the process they would have to do in order to reapply to get back on tour if they chose to?

So Jaime, it would have to be becoming eligible to hold a tour card again and applying for membership, so...

1) Won a tour event in the last two years, or a Major in the last five

2) Finish in the top 125 in FedEx Cup points for a season

3) Go through the Korn Ferry Tour and get one of the cards there

4) That special temporary membership route, but you'd need to make enough points to finish top 125 to regain your card and you'd be ineligible for the playoffs, like Zalatoris last season

Also worth noting, they'd like revert to the bottom of the priority list as well I would think if they got membership back and their exemption into a higher tier of priority expired in the meantime, so you might have to slum it out over the Fall series to up that ranking.

EDIT: Priority List rankings are here from the 21-22 media guide. Phil could be top of the eligibility chart until 2026. DJ fits Tier 3 until 2025 and both could use their one-time lifetime earning exemption. Other players would slot in behind, like Sergio, Louis, Na, Gooch, etc.

[Golfspy_Lukes]

Only because I want to see the train wreck

I have absolutely ZERO interest in it as a golf tournament.

No Laying Up did a great job talking about LIV on the their latest podcast.  Take out the Saudi stuff and sportswashing.  Just look at the product itself.  Who the hell wants to watch those guys play in whatever the hell spectacle they are trying to put on?  Reading the comments from the press conference today, it is blatantly obvious that this is all a glorified exhibition. 

For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

[tony@CIC]

And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names?  note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

[550025KV]

37 minutes ago, jlukes said:

Only because I want to see the train wreck

I have absolutely ZERO interest in it as a golf tournament.

No Laying Up did a great job talking about LIV on the their latest podcast.  Take out the Saudi stuff and sportswashing.  Just look at the product itself.  Who the hell wants to watch those guys play in whatever the hell spectacle they are trying to put on?  Reading the comments from the press conference today, it is blatantly obvious that this is all a glorified exhibition. 

For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

Apparently the press conference was a real cluster this morning. Reporters and players were all asked to leave after someone asked a marginal question and the MC took offense. It got ugly. I dont know the question but tempers were on display.  

[Golfspy_TCB]

My 53 year membership in the PGA Tour Broadcast Viewing Association prevents me from watching rival golf leagues.  

[550025KV]

I'll go on record as a 20% interested observer. I'm more interested in seeing how this plays out with the various Tours. Part of that has to do with my disdain for Greg Norman. He's a pompous ass. His countryman Wayne Grady said it best. Google it and you'll see. The quality of field is a joke. They all hide behind the veil of "growing the game". That's total BS. If it wasn't for the $$$, not a soul would have showed up. 

[Siamese Moose]

1 hour ago, jlukes said:

For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

Wow, those team logos are really amateurish! I'd bet every single one of them violates the trademark of some minor league baseball team, though "Hy Flyers" might have come from Harry Potter.

[Siamese Moose]

1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

It'll also be interesting to see how the individual player sponsors handle this, i.e. Michelson and KPMG. Will sponsors like this drop the players?

All of Phil's sponsors have already cut ties with him, although the Callaway deal is "on hold", not yet cut.

[Syks7]

Not a chance.  The more about the wealth fund that it's main backer (Saudi Public Investment Fund) the bigger my disgust.  

[Hobert]

1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names?  note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

Bizarre.