Popular Post mpatrickriley Posted February 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2023 In a club fitting, would you rather the fitter explain his purpose behind each head/shaft/setting change, or would you rather not know what the fitter is doing (as much as possible) to avoid being influenced by what he's saying should happen? My take: right now, I'd love a "blind" fitting with an expert fitter. To be sure, there are some changes that you can't not notice even as you're at address—you'll see the difference between a svelte blade and a chunky GI iron, for instance. And I definitely want him to explain at the end what I ended up with and why. But in the meantime, turn the screen off, let me swing without knowing the outcome, and put something in my hands that gives the best results. GolfSpy_BOS, sirchunksalot, edingc and 7 others 10 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Love this topic. I am with you I would prefer more of the blind fit, however I will admit it is because I have not really had that. In many cases I have been the one dictating a lot due to the experience I have with fittings and equipment. Sign me up for a blind fitting and let the fitter find what is best for me. Would love to have this true experience and see what happens! GolfSpy TCB, cksurfdude, sirchunksalot and 5 others 7 1 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I think you described my take as well MPR. I actually want the fitter to LISTEN to my take on the different selections (my feedback) and use that along with what he sees with the results... and limit his comments to "ok... now try this one" (which could be a different head, or a different shaft or whatever. Then once he has landed on the ULTIMATE CLUB for me... I want him to spend 6 hours explaining his process! HAHA. Ok... maybe too much... but I want to understand his process to get to the end... but I would be thrilled to hear that information after the fitting is over, rather than during. cksurfdude, Hakr4ever, GolfSpy_APH and 5 others 7 1 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSP210 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just got fitted for a driver. didn't want to know the club or shaft combination that I was hitting at the time. But wanted the process explained at the end as to how I ended up with what I get. RollingGreens, Jim Shaw, Hakr4ever and 5 others 7 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Speed Irons: Mizuno 923 Hot Metal Putter: Mizuno M Craft VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 Yeah (replying to both fellow mods above), my concern at this point is that I think I know too much. I would love a completely open, brand-agnostic fitting. If a 40 gram ladies flex shaft gives me my best results, so be it. I would want to eliminate as much as possible my own preconceptions. And so for me (assuming an indoor fitting), I even want the screen off. I don't want to make my own adjustments. I'm just here to swing; the fitter is there to make the club the best possible tool for the swing I've got. There was a day when I would have wanted a fitting in which the fitter explains every single step he's making to me. But at this point, I have too many of my own (half-baked) ideas. (Obviously, my scenario here only works if the fitter is a wizard of golf equipment, which is also part of my dream scenario.) edingc, cksurfdude, Dweed and 6 others 7 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Yeah (replying to both fellow mods above), my concern at this point is that I think I know too much. I would love a completely open, brand-agnostic fitting. If a 40 gram ladies flex shaft gives me my best results, so be it. I would want to eliminate as much as possible my own preconceptions. And so for me (assuming an indoor fitting), I even want the screen off. I don't want to make my own adjustments. I'm just here to swing; the fitter is there to make the club the best possible tool for the swing I've got. There was a day when I would have wanted a fitting in which the fitter explains every single step he's making to me. But at this point, I have too many of my own (half-baked) ideas. (Obviously, my scenario here only works if the fitter is a wizard of golf equipment, which is also part of my dream scenario.) I LOVE Dream Scenarios!! And this is a good one!! mpatrickriley, GolfSpy_APH, Merlin1313 and 2 others 5 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailey Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I have a PhD in biomechanics so I want to know what is going on. So, I like the why's and how's. However, I think it should be a joint effort toward obtaining the players goals with their expertise. So for me, that can only happen if I know why. The only true fitting I have had was exactly the opposite and it was actually at Club Champion. He kept pushing to what he thought I needed due to my age, not paying attention to the metrics that were displaying on the screen such as apex height, fairway side tendency, spin rates, distance etc.. Finally, I left. I have no need for a 218 yard 6 iron that is going 135 feet in the air. They did email me back and said that I had valid points about my metrics and offered another free fitting and have other colleagues involved, but I never contacted them back. Bang60, Merlin1313, tdroma98 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Driver: Ai Smoke ◇◇◇ 10.5⁰ Strong Cog -2⁰ w/Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw White 65x 3 wood: G430 Max 15⁰ Ping Chrome Tour 2.0 75 X Hybrid: TSi2 21⁰ Hybrid w/Graphite Design Tour AD DI 95X Irons: JPX 923 4-PW Nippon Modus Tour 115 TX Wedges: RTX6 Tour Rack Raw 50, 55 and 60 w/Dynamic Gold S400. Putter: My Dad's Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport 2 that I gave him in 2003 Ball: TP5X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I always prefer to not not know when it’s handed to me what loft or what shaft including weight or flex. However I do know why a change is being made because that’s part of the communication process with the fitter. The golfer has to be telling the fitter what he/she feels, sees, thinks. If not the fitter doesn’t know what changes to make. Yes he/she can see numbers and ball flight (assuming outdoors) but not what’s causing them. Is the feel to soft, to harsh, too heavy, too light. So based on the feedback one is going to know why the fitter is making a change. If it’s too soft then they are going to put in a stiffer feeling shaft. If its too light then changing shafts weight or if the driver has changeable weights out a heavier weight in. I don’t care about the numbers because I don’t want to be chasing them, but I can watch the ball flight and see if there’s too much spin, not enough, if the ball is going to high, too low or just right. I will let the fitter know what I’m seeing and see if he/she sees the same, but it’s communicated in the information I mentioned above cksurfdude, rkj427, mpatrickriley and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Count me in the blind fitting group. like @Golfspy_TCB I want to be able to offer my feedback but not necessarily know what the fitter is doing next. At the end he can explain why we ended up where we are. I'll disagree about the screen being off for me. I still need to see the shot. Ideally I'd be hitting outdoors. When I was demoing the TSR line at PGASS there were a few shafts I didn't like the feel of just in my hand hovering it at address, but we still hit them a few times to see what happens during the swing. It's amazing what a little bit of weight change or flex profile can do the feel, even static before you start to swing. At the end of the day most of my recent fittings have all been "no significant performance gains" at least on the distance front, but sound and feel preferences can make a difference in confidence! GolfSpy TCB, Hakr4ever, GolfSpy_APH and 4 others 6 1 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy TCB Posted February 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, shailey said: I have no need for a 218 yard 6 iron that is going 135 feet in the air. I think I have need for a 218 yard 6 iron... can you send it to me? I'll pay shipping. GolfSpy_BOS, Bang60, tdroma98 and 9 others 2 1 9 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majduffer Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I like to know what the shaft will do to my ball flight. I also like to know what each setting on adjustable clubs will produce. Of course I feel the most important part of fitting is the shaft type and flex. There is a reason if you go into a golf shop and look at their used clubs, they will predominantly be stiff flex shafts. It is also very nice if your fitting is done on a range with launch monitor inorder to see what the ball does on the ground. I have a club fitter friend who messed up a $300 shaft so he put it in my TM 5w. Wow, what a difference it made in how that club performed. Of course a fitting will never surpass lessons with a good coach and lots of practice. cksurfdude, Bang60, Hakr4ever and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote 2 Callaway EPIC drivers one is GBB FW Cleveland Laucher 3W Hybrids 3 & 4 Callaway GBB Irons 5-SW Mizuno hotmetal 900s Putter Callaway Triple Trac and triple trac escape ball. All shafts senior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 While I admit I'm curious about every selection and tweak a fitter makes, I know it would slow down the process, and I am comfortable with letting the fitter steer the process without asking questions at every turn. That said, I just got a D-3W-3H fitting last Fall and I was not satisfied with what the first Titleist staff fitter came up with - it made no sense to me, or most here evidently. I sent a text to that fitter, and he told me he meant a different D shaft weight, which doesn't even exist. Huh? So I got fit again, and the second Titleist staff fitter chose different shafts and weights for me, and put me in D-4W-7W. I have been very pleased with the new sticks. Both had all the same shafts to choose from. Kinda makes you wonder... I did a Club Champion driver fitting about a year earlier, and if I had asked him to explain each change, it would have taken all day with all the heads and shafts he threw at me. That fitting was a total waste of time and money - that fitter was incompetant. sirchunksalot, majduffer, Hakr4ever and 1 other 3 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize LAB DF3 w Accra Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 001 F (mesh), Payntr X 005 F, Ecco Biom C4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamese Moose Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Every time I've seen a fitter, I've asked upfront to keep it as blind as is practical. I know a fair bit about clubs, but I'm no expert. If he tells me he's changing X, my overactive brain will think, "That should cause this change", and I won't be able to stop myself from making swing changes based on expectations. cksurfdude, sirchunksalot and Merlin1313 3 Quote Moose, my cat, is Siamese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkj427 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: I always prefer to not not know when it’s handed to me what loft or what shaft including weight or flex. However I do know why a change is being made because that’s part of the communication process with the fitter. The golfer has to be telling the fitter what he/she feels, sees, thinks. If not the fitter doesn’t know what changes to make. Yes he/she can see numbers and ball flight (assuming outdoors) but not what’s causing them. Is the feel to soft, to harsh, too heavy, too light. So based on the feedback one is going to know why the fitter is making a change. If it’s too soft then they are going to put in a stiffer feeling shaft. If its too light then changing shafts weight or if the driver has changeable weights out a heavier weight in. I don’t care about the numbers because I don’t want to be chasing them, but I can watch the ball flight and see if there’s too much spin, not enough, if the ball is going to high, too low or just right. I will let the fitter know what I’m seeing and see if he/she sees the same, but it’s communicated in the information I mentioned above This perfectly describes the process I had when I was fit for both driver, fairways, and irons a few years back. Spent about 2 1/2 hours total time over a couple sessions before finding the right for me set-ups. And then when it all said was done, went back one last time to make sure that the results/feelings, etc. were what I wanted or expected from the choices we made at that time. sirchunksalot 1 Quote Driver & Fairway: Titleist GT2 8 degree - Ventus TR Red & TSR3 15 - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Hybrid: TSR2 21 degree - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Irons: Titleist T200 3G (4) & T150 - (5-G) - Modus 105 Wedges: Vokey SM9 54, and 58 Putter: Cameron Phantom X 5 Ball: Pro V1 & Maxfli Tour Link to Motocaddy M7 w/Remote Trolley & Bag Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Going in soon for an iron fit (I hope) it is a unplanned drop in so we will see. However I am going to ask for it to more blind fitting and see what comes out! cnosil 1 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjd Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I definitely want to know what the fitter is doing and especially why. There were comments about slowing down the process if you questioned the fitter. This may be a benefit since the one of the problems during the fitting process is getting tired due to the number of balls you hit. As a long time golfer, I want to know why certain things are happening as we change shaft flexes, shaft weights, or changes in spin and trajectory with head changes. Good to know since we now have clubs that are adjustable and I may want to know what affect I will have on ball flight if later I make an adjustment change to my club. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 When doing a fitting I am going to let the fitter do their job. I understand it isn’t an exact science and a different fitter will come up with different recommendation; maybe drastically different, will approach the fitting differently, and will have their personal equipment preferences based on past successes and failures. Prior to the the fitting I will try to provide as much input as I can to explain my goals and if I have some specific things I don’t want to include in the fitting (I personally don’t have any biases against any component). During the fitting I’ll just provide feedback on what my experience is with what was handed to me. Because I want understanding; after the fitting I will ask what we ended up with, what he was trying to accomplish, and why we ended up where we did. I’d ask questions about some of the things we tried and didn’t try. If cost becomes a problem, maybe some reasonable alternatives, edingc, GolfSpy_APH and Bang60 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I'm with most of you on not initially knowing what is going on. By knowing what the fitter selected and why upfront might create a little swing bias. If I thought the shaft was too stiff or not stiff enough, I might unconsciously modify my swing to match. By not knowing, I can give honest feedback on what I feel, and it frees me to swing normally. In the end, let the results speak for themselves. However, once we've settled on the right combination, I would want to know why and all the details I could get. Not only to better understand my swing and what club parameters that optimized the performance, but to make me comfortable that the fitter knew what they were doing! Middler and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote Titleist GT3 10 degree driver with a Mitsubishi MMT SpeedMesh 40 gram R2 shaft Titleist GT2 four wood with a Mitsubishi MMT SpeedMesh 40 gram R2 shaft Titleist GT2 seven wood with a Mitsubishi MMT SpeedMesh 40 gram R2 shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G30 irons, 6-PW, gold dot with Fujikura EXS 60i R2-Flex shaft Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie MSG Tester: Shot Scope LX+ Rangefinder MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons MSG Tester: Titleist Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikurJim Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I have to be honest. I am an over thinker. Tell me nothing put the club in my hands and let me hit away. Give me the numbers/results every 10/15 balls. Don’t even tell me the brand/model. Feed me the data and top three when the session is over. I will tell the fitter from the start what I would like and what I am using, but that’s it. Just give me the best options for me. Edited February 10, 2023 by StrikurJim GolfSpy_APH and Siamese Moose 2 Quote WIMyB Nike Vapor Fly driver Nike Covert Tour 3Wood Titleist 913 5Wood Titleist 915 7Wood Mizuno MP-64 4i-PW Mizuno T-4 50 and 54 Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged 58 Odyssey Stroke Labs Double Wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbowers Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 As a fairly new player I want more information. I like telling what my goals are and I want to understand the reasons they are picking a product or change. I don’t want to dictate a brand though. It helps me develop a relationship with the fitter as I think it’s not a one and done process. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Mizuno 919 Hot Metal Irons Cobra Driver Evnroll Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capifico22 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I've had enough fittings to know that if I don't take an active role, the outcome will be subpar. If I went to TXG HQ, I'd probably let Jesus take the wheel a bit more. GolfSpy_APH, Franc38 and sosuHands 1 2 Quote hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIGregB Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 When I read MPR's opening thread, my 1st thought was, "Heck yes! I want it blind until it's over!" But then after reading comments from shalliey (although he's in a different class all by himself with his biomechanics expertise) and others, I realized I couldn't hit shots as blindly as having the screen turned off because I need to see the ball flight to know whether I'm even in the ballpark with my swing. I used to have a net set up in my basement for winter use and discovered that the swing that felt so sweet with, what I was certain was, excellent ball contact was in reality ingraining a nasty pull hook. So, I need to at least see ball flight even if I'm in the dark about what the immediate change is that the fitter is making. SO, what does this boil down to? Just like EVERYTHING else in golf, there isn't one thing (club, ball, swing, thought...) that's right for everyone. Hopefully one can find a fitter that can work effectively with the process that works best for you. Finding that fitter; well, that's a different story. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Paradym AI Smoke w/ HZRDUS GEN 4 Silver 60 Graphite 6.0 or Motore X F35R shaft, ZX 5 Wood & 7 Wood w/Evenflow Riptide 5.5 shaft, JPX919 Hot Metal 4-PW w/Project X LZ 5.5 shafts, SM10 52.12F, SM10 56.14F & SM10 60.12D wedges, Sabertooth White Ice, -Pro V1X (preferred) or Tour X ball, X5 Watch, Nikon Laser 500 range finder. My 2024 Titleist SM10 Wedge Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64494-vokey-sm10-wedges-2024-forum-review/?do=findComment&comment=1065367 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman56 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I definitely want to know why they are changing each item. The more knowledge the better. Quote Zgolfen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedeausen Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 19 hours ago, shailey said: I have a PhD in biomechanics so I want to know what is going on. So, I like the why's and how's. However, I think it should be a joint effort toward obtaining the players goals with their expertise. So for me, that can only happen if I know why. The only true fitting I have had was exactly the opposite and it was actually at Club Champion. He kept pushing to what he thought I needed due to my age, not paying attention to the metrics that were displaying on the screen such as apex height, fairway side tendency, spin rates, distance etc.. Finally, I left. I have no need for a 218 yard 6 iron that is going 135 feet in the air. They did email me back and said that I had valid points about my metrics and offered another free fitting and have other colleagues involved, but I never contacted them back. It's not necessarily about the company that's doing the fitting. The club fitter's experience level and ability to communicate is what makes for a good fitting. Just like taking a golf lesson. The Pro giving the lesson needs to assess your skills, tools, and give you the right knowledge/information in each lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPS111 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I want to know the outcome but not everything and every change during the fitting. Give me a starting combination then let what it feels like and performs drive the tweaks until I have the combination that performs for me. I'll want to know what I end up with as far as specs and numbers but don't want to know during the fitting. All they'll do is add more to the swing thoughts. I'll tend to try and compensate for what I know about that combination than swing with the fundamentals to get what I need. Quote GPS111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frickenhacker Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) As a fitter I like to explain as much as I possibly can. People get get stuck on manufacturers, lofts, flexes, grip sizes etc. So I think info helps them to understand my equipment suggestions. I also think that the more they understand about their gear the more confidant they become and the better they will improve and play. Some are so stuck that it's a total waste of energy but still have to make the attempt right? Edited February 10, 2023 by Frickenhacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstubby11 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said: Yeah (replying to both fellow mods above), my concern at this point is that I think I know too much. I would love a completely open, brand-agnostic fitting. If a 40 gram ladies flex shaft gives me my best results, so be it. I would want to eliminate as much as possible my own preconceptions. And so for me (assuming an indoor fitting), I even want the screen off. I don't want to make my own adjustments. I'm just here to swing; the fitter is there to make the club the best possible tool for the swing I've got. There was a day when I would have wanted a fitting in which the fitter explains every single step he's making to me. But at this point, I have too many of my own (half-baked) ideas. (Obviously, my scenario here only works if the fitter is a wizard of golf equipment, which is also part of my dream scenario.) When I got my fitting last Spring, one of my major points was I wanted to see my real ball flight. I went to Miles of Golf where they have an outdoor heated range so I could see the ball flight off the club and they also had a Trackman to get all the data. It was a great experience. Quote 2/1/2023 Driver: Callaway Rogue Max ST 3 Wood: Taylormade R15 4-U Irons: Ping G425 52 Wedge: Cleveland 588 Forged Black Pearl 56 Wedge: Cleveland 588 Forged Black Pearl Putter: Evn Roll Ball: Titleist ProV1X/Taylormade TP5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBurtonsPorkchopExpress Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 When I finally get fitted for something I want all the info. All the data. To me this helps me understand the "why" behind what the fitter is doing and takes any doubt out of my head when hitting the clubs. Otherwise I'd feel like I'm giving my money to a random stock broker and just trusting they have my best interest in mind. Quote Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franc38 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, capifico22 said: I've had enough fittings to know that if I don't take an active role, the outcome will be subpar. If I went to TXG HQ, I'd probably let Jesus take the wheel a bit more. I'm with you, I need to talk, tell the fitter what I want, what I see usually, what I feel when trying stuff. What you do on a given day, in a fitting bay, hitting on a screen or a range, may or may not have any relation whatsoever with what happens when you play golf on a course with co-competitors, on a random day. Telling the fitter what you do see most often, what you enjoy or hate and explaining. And since you never hit a club without a preconception on what you'll do and what it'll do for that, I feel letting the guy pass you clubs without explaining what it is would induce just as much bias as telling you what it is and what it should do. It's a catch-22 of sorts. Now, I've never tried a "slient/blind" fitting and it might be wonderful. Except that I've pretty much tried 80% of the clubs released in the last 6 or 7 years and know what I like and what I don't like, plus I know my specs in general, and unless I do change drastically my swing that's unlikely to change much (so my last iron set, the Takomo, was bought sight unseen and I'm very happy with it, thanks very much). EDIT. I've also stopped dreaming, after having tried all these clubs, of a specific thing that would "help" me massively. Or hinder my game massively. I've done the experiment and there's more difference in my scores from day to day than there is from using this or that equipment. What equipment does is remove questions and make you feel better, safer, "one with the ball flight".... be the ball! Edited February 10, 2023 by Franc38 Quote Aim small... pray to miss small My bag: Ping hoofer lite. My driver: Nike Vapor Pro. 4w: Inesis 500. Hybrid: Nike Vapor Flex. Irons (4-PW): Takomo 301 combo on KBS tour X. Wedges: Vokey SM7 52° and 58°. Putter: Cleveland SOFT 2 model 10.5. Balls: Inesis Tour900 yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybogey Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Yes; do wish "End of Fitting" Summary explained & a Take Away Summary/Guide in print to read & what to work on during Season. In "Plain" language so that I can understand. K.I.S.S. does apply here!! I am a little Slow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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