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I wanted to get peoples thoughts on shafts.  I feel like a lot of what people look at are the clubs and not the shafts in the clubs.  When Demoing clubs, do you automatically go with the shaft you normally play, or do you get input from the reps?  

 

I feel like more golfers should put more time and energy into their shafts (said tongue and cheek).  But seriously, I was using the wrong shafts for 4 years and didn't really think much about what shaft was in the club.  When I was asked which shaft I just said, "I don't know, stock."  I finally went to a Titleist ball fitting and the fitter said my back spin numbers were way to high.  He asked what type of shaft I had and I replied I don't know Stiff.  It started getting me thinking more about how important the shafts are. 

 

I used a friends club that had a KBS C-taper X-stiff shaft in it and my jaw dropped with much my ball penetrated through the air.   

 

There are so many shaft options out there, but they're just as important as the clubs being used.  

 

Are you using the right shafts?  

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I have been fitted for each set of irons I've had in the last number of years, and each time I've done this, the shafts end-up different. For instance, when fitted for Callaway Apex, the fitter found the best numbers and dispersion with Dynamic Gold S400. When I played Edel irons, I moved to KBS C-Taper Lite, and now I have Project X LZ in my Mizuno irons. With each head, different shafts have been needed to get the desired results. Some folks just "plug-and-play", but I always try to go with which shaft the fitter ends-up finding is best for that specific set of irons. 

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I would say I'm not. I needed new irons really bad and it's not in the budget at all with a single income and 4 kids to support. My buddy hooked me up with his old set. I hit them very well, they are so much better and my ball flight is lower than my old set but I think I could get it down a little more with the right shaft. After getting fit for a dri er in 2012 I swore I would never buy again without being fit but it isn't always an option for folks like me. Lol

 

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If I am doing self demo I start with what I've used or know works and then compare others.

 

If getting fit the conversation takes place with fitter with what I use, what I'm trying to accomplish and what I like to naneca few things and then let them find a starting point and thru ball flight, numbers, my feedback let them make tweaks

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I was fit and now have the shaft that was determined to work best for me. I have found that it has improved ball flight, consistency, and distance in my irons.

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I wanted to get peoples thoughts on shafts.  I feel like a lot of what people look at are the clubs and not the shafts in the clubs.  When Demoing clubs, do you automatically go with the shaft you normally play, or do you get input from the reps?  

 

I feel like more golfers should put more time and energy into their shafts (said tongue and cheek).  But seriously, I was using the wrong shafts for 4 years and didn't really think much about what shaft was in the club.  When I was asked which shaft I just said, "I don't know, stock."  I finally went to a Titleist ball fitting and the fitter said my back spin numbers were way to high.  He asked what type of shaft I had and I replied I don't know Stiff.  It started getting me thinking more about how important the shafts are. 

 

I used a friends club that had a KBS C-taper X-stiff shaft in it and my jaw dropped with much my ball penetrated through the air.   

 

There are so many shaft options out there, but they're just as important as the clubs being used.  

 

Are you using the right shafts?  

 

This is why I like Mizuno's shaft optimizer- I think it does a good job of showing you three options to start with- of course only shaft options mizuno carries. Trialing them out with a fitter may further clean up the choice. At this point in time I could probably use any iron head I want to, but the shaft is my dilemma!

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I was fit and now have the shaft that was determined to work best for me. I have found that it has improved ball flight, consistency, and distance in my irons.

Have you tried the shaft in other heads. I have a shaft or two that I was fit for that don't perform as well in some heads as other shafts.

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It may have been in an MGS video recently about shafts. It was something along the lines "If it can impact ball flight and spin, yes it's important". That certainly applies here.

 

That said, shafts are relegated to the "I don't want to keep up with all the different offerings, I'll let the fitter, or rep, steer me in the right direction" category. Mostly this is for my own sanity. With all the different offerings out there I'm happier if I bury my head in the sand and don't look at gear until I'm looking to replace or add something.

 

I have only gone to one fitting where I've put this into practice. I did ask to start with the shafts I was using at the time for a base line. After that, no input from me and tried anything the rep handed me.

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I've had 3 irons fittings in my life.

1st one gave me some DG lite

2nd one was KBS Tour

Current one PX 5.5

 

For woods I just let the fitter pick for me. I want to tinker and buy from the bay, I'll go for shafts with similar characteristics to what I'm gaming now.

 

I guess I'll just let the pros do their jobs.

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I think you will find that there are lots of guys here who were fit for their shafts.

 

Like you I found the Titleist ball fitting extremely helpful. Other than a debacle due to the Mizuno shaft optimizer (sorry fire in the hole I'm not with you on it) I've been in the same shaft type for ten years in my irons - light graphite around 60 grams. I won a set of Wilson C200's in a MGS contest several years back - the graphite offering was a little heavier than what was in my fit C100's.

 

The Titleist guy pointed out that the way the C200's was getting its additional distance was higher launch and less spin - I have a shallow swing that needs more loft and a shaft that produces more spin.

 

So I found a set of G30's with a light aerotech shaft in it - way more spin, way more carry, so more loft, more carry and overall distance, quicker stop.

 

Shaft and clubhead matter - both.

 

My wedge shafts and driver shaft are also fit. I will confess that I wasn't fit for 3w, 4 hybrid and 5 hybrid. 3 wood is the worst club in my bag.

 

 

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Seems like I'm always fit into a x100 dynamic gold. I've hit all the others but too much spin and higher than my liking ball flights on the px and kbs tour weight and flex I've tried. I'm close to a tour player in therms of strength and swing speed. I don't always hit it in the center but I can smack it. So usually I need a heavy shaft for dispersion and a stiff flex with a high kick point to knock he spin off and keep the ball flight where I want it.

 

Woods it's a completely different story. I believe all top brands have shafts that fit me. They again need to be heavier and stiffer with high kick points to keep spin down and the ball flight down.

 

 

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Have you tried the shaft in other heads. I have a shaft or two that I was fit for that don't perform as well in some heads as other shafts.

 

 

I was fit at club champion into the shaft so I did try other 6 iron heads into the shafts.  When I was selected for the Wilson C300 Forged testing I elected to put the shaft into those clubs;  it was KBS Tour shafts so they were a stock offering.   I tested the OEM provided C300 Forged as part of the most wanted testing (had the KBS Tour 105 shafts) and I hit mine significantly better.  

 

When they don't work as well in other heads,  it is probably the head dynamics and not the shaft.  If you want a particular head,  I would test shafts in that particular head to see how well they match up. 

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To answer the root question...YES

 

 

I was "self-fitted" when I originally began building my club set and the data I had at the time was for low-to-moderate swing speeds that called for mid-flex shafts. As I've evolved, my swing speed has increased and true fitting has shown that I need stiff-flex...and that's only the start, but bottom line...

 

 

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I was fit at club champion into the shaft so I did try other 6 iron heads into the shafts. When I was selected for the Wilson C300 Forged testing I elected to put the shaft into those clubs; it was KBS Tour shafts so they were a stock offering. I tested the OEM provided C300 Forged as part of the most wanted testing (had the KBS Tour 105 shafts) and I hit mine significantly better.

 

When they don't work as well in other heads, it is probably the head dynamics and not the shaft. If you want a particular head, I would test shafts in that particular head to see how well they match up.

Cool. I agree it's more the head than shaft. I had kbs $ taper in my titleist 718, tried them in p790 and they were fine, swapped to Nippon modus3 120 and the feel bad flight was a noticeable difference

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I was fitted at club champion and it was shaft first and then head. It was against my belief. I knew the shaft was important however I always believed that the combo of head and shaft together made the difference. The fitter there told me that for about 95% of players the shaft will be transferable to any head.

 

 

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Most male golfers play a shaft far to stiff for their swing dynamics. Additionally there really is no industry standard for R,S,XS, 5.0,5.5, 6.0, etc...... This is why getting fitted for the avid golfer makes so much since. Keep in mind while the dynamics of your fitted shaft will not change the dynamics of your swing will change over time. Each person is different but as you age you'll probably need a softer shaft (that sounds horrible) unless you want to roll the ball down the fairway.

 

 

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I didn't get fitted into my Aerotech Steelfiber's they were just included in a great deal in my new irons.

I just got lucky they're a great fit. My goal was less shock on the elbow...

Turns out that combined with the head, they're a fantastic combo, and much more satisfying than the kbs tours in my mp64's To hit, and performance-wise.

 

Driver shaft I did get fitted- and it just keeps getting better

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I appreciate the responses.  I enjoy thought provoking conversations.  I know it's hard to get numbers surrounding the shafts used without getting fitted by a pro.  If you have your own GC2 or Flightscope tools, you have the capabilities, but that's highly unlikely.  

 

I know for the majority of lower handicap golfers on the forum, you've already been looking at your numbers.  The question was geared more toward lower handicaps or those that are looking for more consistent flight and distances, but haven't considered the shafts to be the culprit. 

 

I fully admit, I need to be fitted for my 3 wood shaft.  At times, I can hook the crap out of the thing.  I figured the shaft may be one of the causes.  I don't have a bad hook with any of my other clubs.  Ultimately, I wish the cost for getting fitted wasn't so price.  I really wish the cost surrounding clubs wasn't so costly.       

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I appreciate the responses.  I enjoy thought provoking conversations.  I know it's hard to get numbers surrounding the shafts used without getting fitted by a pro.  If you have your own GC2 or Flightscope tools, you have the capabilities, but that's highly unlikely.  

 

I know for the majority of lower handicap golfers on the forum, you've already been looking at your numbers.  The question was geared more toward lower handicaps or those that are looking for more consistent flight and distances, but haven't considered the shafts to be the culprit. 

 

I fully admit, I need to be fitted for my 3 wood shaft.  At times, I can hook the crap out of the thing.  I figured the shaft may be one of the causes.  I don't have a bad hook with any of my other clubs.  Ultimately, I wish the cost for getting fitted wasn't so price.  I really wish the cost surrounding clubs wasn't so costly.       

 

A shaft, regardless of how good it is, can't save your ball flight from a bad swing. However, a bad shaft can ruin a good swing. 

 

I just changed out my 3 wood shaft from an Aldila Tour Green (something that I thought was great for my swing) and into a Hzrdus Black. The pulls are gone and the fades are minimal. Very rarely is a club head to blame for bad shots. You might have a club head that spins too much, has too much/not enough offset, improper weighting, etc but the shaft can really do some damage to your game if you are out there throwing in shafts and hoping one works. 

 

My last driver fitting was a real eye-opener. The fitter wouldn't recommend a shaft until it performed well in multiple heads. Before he told me the Oban Kyoshi Black was the top pick, I hit it in my gamer, the G400 LST and the Rogue Sub Zero. There were slight differences in spin and carry yardage, but the dispersion among the three heads were nearly identical. 

 

How you swing will determine which shafts will work out best for you. How hard you swing, load the shaft and desired ball flight will determine where you should be looking. DG is a fine shaft but I load the shaft quite a bit and found out that the KBS C-Taper S+ is a better shaft for my swing. I played DG X100s for over a decade and it wasn't until this past spring that I started playing the KBS after a fitting. Now, my ball flight is a good bit higher, but the spin is down and my dispersion has really narrowed = more GIRs = more confidence in swing. Yes, the C-Taper is a stiffer/harsher feeling shaft, but the LM numbers tell me it's the one. 

 

If I had the funds (and a wife that didn't care if I spent our home renovation budget on more golf stuff) I'd go with the Oban steel CT iron shafts. Those are some ridiculously good shafts.

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IMO shaft fitting is just as important as club fitting. Try finding someone who builds clubs and frequency matches your shafts. I say this because you can't trust that what the label on the shaft says is accurate. One OEM's stiff is another's regular and so on so forth. A good club fitter will take the time to put you in a club, and shaft, that fits your swing.

 

I also recommend an outdoor fitting. I hate hitting balls in a bay, for some reason I never hit the ball very well, and hitting outside helps you make sure the ball is coming out at the launch angle you want. Simulators have a tough time replicating "real world" ball flights. 

 

Just my opinion of course. 

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