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Alright, so the round didn't go well. But I really don't think this was Betti's fault at all. I just played and putted, horribly. I couldn't read putts, my stroke just wasn't on. I wouldn't have made any more putts with any other putter, it was completely the Indian, and not the Arrow today. This really isn't a round I think I can include in an accurate review, I was just off. 

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7 hours ago, GB13 said:

Alright, so the round didn't go well. But I really don't think this was Betti's fault at all. I just played and putted, horribly. I couldn't read putts, my stroke just wasn't on. I wouldn't have made any more putts with any other putter, it was completely the Indian, and not the Arrow today. This really isn't a round I think I can include in an accurate review, I was just off. 

Nevermind, we can't be awesome all the time. Otherwise we would be at Bethpage this week rather than haunting our favourite forums 😁😎

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Driver:    :cobra-small: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff
Woods:   :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
               :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 3 Hybrid - Atmos Blue 7 Reg
Irons:      :cobra-small: King F9 - LH - 4-PW - True Temper XP95 Reg
Wedges: :cobra-small: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° -True Temper XP95 Reg
Putter:     :rife-putters-1: - LH - Two Bar Hybrid
Ball:        :srixon-small: Zstar

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Last week, I got in one full loop and several hours on the putting green with the Armlock. My round was of the super social variety and I subsequently never wrapped my head around scoring that day - result: 33 putts. That’s _a ton_ compared to my average and I didn’t make anything of significant length. But again, I really wasn’t in the mindset to grind. And I also didn’t wiff any short ones.

Stage 2 for our Bettinardi SS38 Armlock review team is slated to drop on Memorial Day. That gives us one more week (cold & wet in my case) to do any specific testing you guys would like. So please reach out ASAP in the official review thread if you have any suggestions or requests.

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:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
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9 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

Last week, I got in one full loop and several hours on the putting green with the Armlock. My round was of the super social variety and I subsequently never wrapped my head around scoring that day - result: 33 putts. That’s _a ton_ compared to my average and I didn’t make anything of significant length. But again, I really wasn’t in the mindset to grind. And I also didn’t wiff any short ones.

Stage 2 for our Bettinardi SS38 Armlock review team is slated to drop on Memorial Day. That gives us one more week (cold & wet in my case) to do any specific testing you guys would like. So please reach out ASAP in the official review thread if you have any suggestions or requests.

Question for all testers, and I apologize if it's been asked and answered earlier...

Have you gotten used to setting up with your grips or has it been a struggle to remember how to set-up each time. In other words, have you found you need to "think" about setting the armlock or has become more natural the more you use it?

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Driver
:    :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester)
3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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6 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

Question for all testers, and I apologize if it's been asked and answered earlier...

Have you gotten used to setting up with your grips or has it been a struggle to remember how to set-up each time. In other words, have you found you need to "think" about setting the armlock or has become more natural the more you use it?

My grip felt natural from the start. But the putter fitting at CC centered around maintaining my typical setup, so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear the other guys on the team experienced a different (possibly ongoing) adjustment period.

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:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
Bettinardi.png.e7ca0ee7ba785611a4a144e16b6b93ab.png___SS38 Armlock
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26 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

Question for all testers, and I apologize if it's been asked and answered earlier...

Have you gotten used to setting up with your grips or has it been a struggle to remember how to set-up each time. In other words, have you found you need to "think" about setting the armlock or has become more natural the more you use it?

In the beginning, it was very unnatural. It took me a good 2 weeks and a couple thousand putts to get used to it. Now, it's muscle memory, and no thought is required.  

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Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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14 hours ago, GB13 said:

In the beginning, it was very unnatural. It took me a good 2 weeks and a couple thousand putts to get used to it. Now, it's muscle memory, and no thought is required.  

I played around with an armlock putter a couple months ago and, like you, it felt very unnatural to me. Bad enough that I wasn't sure I was doing it "right". I'm sure it would have come to me, but don't know that I would have the patience to make it muscle memory.

I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread - are you seeing benefits?

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3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

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Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

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3 hours ago, MaxEntropy said:

I played around with an armlock putter a couple months ago and, like you, it felt very unnatural to me. Bad enough that I wasn't sure I was doing it "right". I'm sure it would have come to me, but don't know that I would have the patience to make it muscle memory.

I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread - are you seeing benefits?

Absolutely, once I got past the adjustment period, my putting has definately improved. At first, my main issues were, alignment, and an outside to inside putting stroke. I fixed my alignment by adding a couple extra lines to my golf ball, which framed the putter better at address, so I wasn't relying on aligning a line to another line. I'll take a picture of it, and it will explain it so much better than I just did. 

As for the out to in stroke, turns out, I just need to stand a little farther away from the ball. No complicated fix there, just change my setup a little, and then just rock my shoulders. 

The armlock technique is definately one I'd recommend to try at least once. In all honesty, if you don't end up sticking with it, it can be used as a great training aid if you have too wristy of a stroke. After my initial comfort adjustment period, fixing my alignment, and stroke path, I can honestly say, I'm putting better than I ever have. I've really noticed improved speed control, and I'm making a LOT more 3-10 footers. 

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Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

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12 minutes ago, GB13 said:

In all honesty, if you don't end up sticking with it, it can be used as a great training aid if you have to wristy of a stroke.

When I had my putter fitting in preparation for the Stroke Lab testing, the guy asked me if I had ever tried the claw grip to help with quieting my hands. I used it for about a year and had good results starting the ball on line, but my distance control sucked (there are other reasons for that too, but you'll have to wait for the thread). He suggested trying it just in practice to get the feel of a less wristy/quieter hands stroke.

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3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

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Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

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Do I spy a murdered out Bettinardi SS38 Armlock lurking amongst the tour loaners at the Charles Schwab Challenge this week?

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Ya dig?

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:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
Bettinardi.png.e7ca0ee7ba785611a4a144e16b6b93ab.png___SS38 Armlock
k_sig.jpg.00b599e7e823c61015277de38ca16982.jpg___'18 4-piece
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In the slightly vulgar words of my playing partner today, who had a severely limited vocabulary, "Holy s*** that motherf***** putter is f****** awesome!" At this point, I wholeheartedly, emphatically agree.

   I had 27 putts today, and didn't miss inside 7 or 8 feet. I made a lot of putts over 15 feet. Unfortuanlty I don't have Arccos or Shotscope to giving me a putting handicap for the day, but I can absolutely guarantee that it would have been + a lot. Now I still somehow shot 82, but that was the fault of some extremely poor ball striking and chipping. But yeah, you are here for putter reviews, not me to complain about the rest of my game. So I'll leave it at this, this putter is awesome. 

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Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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My Stage 2 review is posted here.  Please feel free to address any questions or concerns here and I'll try to respond the best I am able.

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Driver: :ping-small: G400 Max 9 degree Alta CB55 Stiff shaft 

FW: :taylormade-small:M4 - 3HL (16.5 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: M6 --- 3 (19 degrees), 4 (22 degrees), and 5 (25 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Irons: :callaway-small:Apex CF19 6-W KBS Tour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX-2 60*

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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1 hour ago, CarlH said:

My Stage 2 review is posted here.  Please feel free to address any questions or concerns here and I'll try to respond the best I am able.

First, I wish you a speedy recovery from your cyborg implementation surgery-do what the Doc says and kick some butt during rehab!

Second, a fine review Sir! Very insightful and honest. I'm actually a little surprised to hear that you'll want more time to decide if it becomes your gamer or not with so many positives that stick seems to have. But it is refreshing to know there is at least one patient fellow out there. Great work Carl!🤙

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Driver
:    :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester)
3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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9 minutes ago, PING Apologist #9 said:

First, I wish you a speedy recovery from your cyborg implementation surgery-do what the Doc says and kick some butt during rehab!

Second, a fine review Sir! Very insightful and honest. I'm actually a little surprised to hear that you'll want more time to decide if it becomes your gamer or not with so many positives that stick seems to have. But it is refreshing to know there is at least one patient fellow out there. Great work Carl!🤙

Yes, my initial impression is very positive, but since I had to discontinue playing the last month, I didn't get a good feel as to which style putting I prefer long term.  30 plus years of conventional putting will require a commitment to change, but if I'm showing enough improvement, I'm willing to go with it.  Looking forward to hearing what the other testers concluded after their testing!

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FW: :taylormade-small:M4 - 3HL (16.5 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: M6 --- 3 (19 degrees), 4 (22 degrees), and 5 (25 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Irons: :callaway-small:Apex CF19 6-W KBS Tour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX-2 60*

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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5 minutes ago, CarlH said:

Yes, my initial impression is very positive, but since I had to discontinue playing the last month, I didn't get a good feel as to which style putting I prefer long term.  30 plus years of conventional putting will require a commitment to change, but if I'm showing enough improvement, I'm willing to go with it.  Looking forward to hearing what the other testers concluded after their testing!

I like your style Sir! Cheers!


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Driver
:    :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester)
3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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Stage 2 bumparoo!

Let me know if you guys have any questions.

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:cobra-small:______S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S
:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
Bettinardi.png.e7ca0ee7ba785611a4a144e16b6b93ab.png___SS38 Armlock
k_sig.jpg.00b599e7e823c61015277de38ca16982.jpg___'18 4-piece
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13 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

Stage 2 bumparoo!

Let me know if you guys have any questions.

Excellent write up and very much on par with my feelings on the putter (especially that darn headcover!)

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Driver: :ping-small: G400 Max 9 degree Alta CB55 Stiff shaft 

FW: :taylormade-small:M4 - 3HL (16.5 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: M6 --- 3 (19 degrees), 4 (22 degrees), and 5 (25 degrees) Atmos shaft R

Irons: :callaway-small:Apex CF19 6-W KBS Tour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX-2 60*

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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15 minutes ago, CarlH said:

Excellent write up and very much on par with my feelings on the putter (especially that darn headcover!)

Thanks buddy - right back atcha!

That headcover is a beautifully hand-crafted POS.

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:ping-small:___________G400 LST 9* - Ping Tour 65 S
:cobra-small:______S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S
:nickent-small:________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG
:adams-small:_Super Proto DHY 21* - Matrix Ozik Altus hX3 S
:adams-small: _Idea MB2 4-PW - Matrix Program 130 6.5
:cleveland-small:_________RTX 52.10  56.12 - DG S400
Bettinardi.png.e7ca0ee7ba785611a4a144e16b6b93ab.png___SS38 Armlock
k_sig.jpg.00b599e7e823c61015277de38ca16982.jpg___'18 4-piece
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1 hour ago, downlowkey said:

Thanks buddy - right back atcha!

That headcover is a beautifully hand-crafted POS.

Great job! 

I have a pretty similar line in my review. It's so nice and well made, but it's also terrible and no one put any thought into it!!  

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Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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My stage 2 is up! Please let me know if you have any questions. 

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Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff

Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff

Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff

Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock

 

 

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