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https://www.golfchannel.com/news/2019-british-open-xander-schauffele-becomes-first-fail-ra-driver-cor-test

 

Xander Schauffele became the first player to have his driver fail a COR (coefficient of restitution) test since the R&A began testing individual player’s drivers at last year’s Open Championship.

Following a second-round 65 that left him tied for 18th place, Schauffele said that his Callaway driver was tested on Tuesday and that he spent the next two days scrambling to find a replacement.

 

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Not a good look for Callaway 

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So much for AI. 😜

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MY DRIVER IS ON P.E.D.'S!!!!

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Just a small QC issue I am sure.   

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https://www.golfchannel.com/news/2019-british-open-xander-schauffele-becomes-first-fail-ra-driver-cor-test
 
Xander Schauffele became the first player to have his driver fail a COR (coefficient of restitution) test since the R&A began testing individual player’s drivers at last year’s Open Championship.
Following a second-round 65 that left him tied for 18th place, Schauffele said that his Callaway driver was tested on Tuesday and that he spent the next two days scrambling to find a replacement.
 

There have been multiple reports that this is pretty common with the Tour heads, but the Big Name players never have theirs checked. DJ, Brooks, Woods, Mickelson, Garcia, etc never get “called” for testing. I wish they tested them all in the tunnel on the way to the first tee.


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Should’ve “speed injected” the face!


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First their balls are crap, now their driver heads are illegal. QC at Callaway seems to be systemic!

 

 

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22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Just a small QC issue I am sure.   

They will invest money into the plants to improve QC for sure

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1 hour ago, jlukes said:

Gotta make up for slow balls somehow 

Hot driver with off center core isn’t a good combo 😃

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Tiger's M5 driver was one of the 30 tested this week. It passed.

https://www.golf.com/news/2019/07/15/tiger-woods-driver-tested-british-open/amp/


There have been multiple reports that this is pretty common with the Tour heads, but the Big Name players never have theirs checked. DJ, Brooks, Woods, Mickelson, Garcia, etc never get “called” for testing. I wish they tested them all in the tunnel on the way to the first tee.


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Soft balls, hard heads.... Hmm. Time to call a urologist!!!!


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4 hours ago, PMookie said:


There have been multiple reports that this is pretty common with the Tour heads, but the Big Name players never have theirs checked. DJ, Brooks, Woods, Mickelson, Garcia, etc never get “called” for testing. I wish they tested them all in the tunnel on the way to the first tee.

Yeah, I was wondering if this is an issue with the "Tour Only" heads .. which obviously receive the "custom treatment" (g. shaving the face) vs mass production retail heads...

But it's interesting the R&A only inspected a part of the field, not everybody - hopefully it was a random or lottery type selection process.

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36 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

Yeah, I was wondering if this is an issue with the "Tour Only" heads .. which obviously receive the "custom treatment" (g. shaving the face) vs mass production retail heads...

But it's interesting the R&A only inspected a part of the field, not everybody - hopefully it was a random or lottery type selection process.

It was 30 players across several brands. 

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I agree with Xander and that testing 30 out of 130 is silly. Invariably, there are some in the 100 not tested playing illegal heads.


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26 minutes ago, PMookie said:

I agree with Xander and that testing 30 out of 130 is silly. Invariably, there are some in the 100 not tested playing illegal heads.


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Xander should be upset with Callaway and not the r&a. TaylorMade injecting their drivers worked out for them 

most pros have no idea what their cor is and it’s all on the company 

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No joke, I thought this read, “Chaos at Callaway.”
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I agree with Xander and that testing 30 out of 130 is silly. Invariably, there are some in the 100 not tested playing illegal heads.


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It’s not a random test if you test everyone.


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It’s not a random test if you test everyone.


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Exactly....


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So what. The guy is squeaky clean and has a solid reputation. It’s pretty lousy that the R&A made such a big deal out of this.


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To be fair, Xander's the one making a big deal out of it. He's the one who made it public that his driver failed a test. It's understandable why he's upset as some are questioning his integrity, but none of the other three who failed. According to Xander there was a PXG and a TM that failed, none of whom have publicized that their clubs failed.

The R&A started testing them at last year's Open so players had to be aware that they might have their clubs tested and they felt 30 drivers were a large enough sample size. Maybe next year they'll test the whole field after Xander and three others failed. Four of thirty drivers suggests that up to 21 drivers in the field would be considered non-conforming this year, which given the R&A's stance on the distance issue, it's definitely not something they'd be happy about.

It's pretty crappy people are questioning Xander's integrity as according to MGS' Tony, the fail came down to differences in the way Callaway measured CT and how the R&A does. And according to Tony all the drivers failed by only 1 point. Xander's driver head was two grams too heavy and that's what caused the failure. It's an unfortunate situation for him but his driver wasn't conforming and unfortunately he has to deal with it. It is unfair that there's potentially other drivers out there that are non-conforming though but it's not like the R&A can change anything now. The best they can do is just test everybody next year to avoid a situation like this.

So what. The guy is squeaky clean and has a solid reputation. It’s pretty lousy that the R&A made such a big deal out of this.


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To be fair, Xander's the one making a big deal out of it. He's the one who made it public that his driver failed a test. It's understandable why he's upset as some are questioning his integrity, but none of the other three who failed. According to Xander there was a PXG and a TM that failed, none of whom have publicized that their clubs failed.

 

The R&A started testing them at last year's Open so players had to be aware that they might have their clubs tested and they felt 30 drivers were a large enough sample size. Maybe next year they'll test the whole field after Xander and three others failed. Four of thirty drivers suggests that up to 21 drivers in the field would be considered non-conforming this year, which given the R&A's stance on the distance issue, it's definitely not something they'd be happy about.

 

It's pretty crappy people are questioning Xander's integrity as according to MGS' Tony, the fail came down to differences in the way Callaway measured CT and how the R&A does. And according to Tony all the drivers failed by only 1 point. Xander's driver head was two grams too heavy and that's what caused the failure. It's an unfortunate situation for him but his driver wasn't conforming and unfortunately he has to deal with it. It is unfair that there's potentially other drivers out there that are non-conforming though but it's not like the R&A can change anything now. The best they can do is just test everybody next year to avoid a situation like this.

 

 

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Xander is making a deal of it in defense of his character.

 

The R&A should have kept these results quiet.

 

Instead, there were officials antagonizing his father and making this an issue. It should have been as simple as saying this club failed, here’s why and not saying a word to the public.

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The R&A did keep the results quiet. Xander made it public knowledge. If it was the R&A that made it public, we'd know the identities of the other three who had failed tests.

 
Xander is making a deal of it in defense of his character.
 
The R&A should have kept these results quiet.
 
Instead, there were officials antagonizing his father and making this an issue. It should have been as simple as saying this club failed, here’s why and not saying a word to the public.


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1 hour ago, FrogginBullfish said:

The R&A did keep the results quiet. Xander made it public knowledge. If it was the R&A that made it public, we'd know the identities of the other three who had failed tests.

 


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Xander came forward because he felt his name was getting leaked and he wanted to get in front of it. Not sure why or if it’s true that the r&a was going to/did leak his name but yeah they should release all 4 or none. My guess he was the big name on the list plus he’s had a pretty good season

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On 7/19/2019 at 4:42 PM, RickyBobby_PR said:

Not a good look for Callaway 

I agree.

 

I disagree with someone else who tried to explain it away as saying that Callaway and the officials have 2 different methods of measuring thus the misunderstanding. The whole point of science is it's objective and empirical. There's not 'my two grams' and 'your two grams', it's just two grams.

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I agree.
 
I disagree with someone else who tried to explain it away as saying that Callaway and the officials have 2 different methods of measuring thus the misunderstanding. The whole point of science is it's objective and empirical. There's not 'my two grams' and 'your two grams', it's just two grams.
These are taken directly from Tony's Twitter. There's much more there about the issue as well.

"In at least one case, there was apparently a significant difference in the readings between the OEM's CT machine and the one used by the R&A.

Tolerance is part of the issue. The rules have tolerances, the machines have tolerances, the guy operating the machine has a tolerance..."

"Tour stock, which typically means the fast end of the CT bell curve. In Xander's case anyway, I'm reasonably certain it wasn't intentional as I've been told that the R&A's CT machine and Callaway's CT machine had a bit of a difference of opinion. Calibration vs. malfeasance."

It is entirely reasonable to believe that two separate measurement devices provided different results as they'd been calibrated differently. The CT limit is 239 with a tolerance of 18, allowing manufacturers to put in play drivers that are up to 257. That tolerance is 7.5% of the actual limit, so the method of measuring CT is clearly not the most accurate, which makes it all the more likely for differing readings to occur across multiple measurement devices. Science isn't perfect, no matter how much we'd like it to be.

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3 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said:

These are taken directly from Tony's Twitter. There's much more there about the issue as well.

"In at least one case, there was apparently a significant difference in the readings between the OEM's CT machine and the one used by the R&A.

Tolerance is part of the issue. The rules have tolerances, the machines have tolerances, the guy operating the machine has a tolerance..."

"Tour stock, which typically means the fast end of the CT bell curve. In Xander's case anyway, I'm reasonably certain it wasn't intentional as I've been told that the R&A's CT machine and Callaway's CT machine had a bit of a difference of opinion. Calibration vs. malfeasance."

It is entirely reasonable to believe that two separate measurement devices provided different results as they'd been calibrated differently. The CT limit is 239 with a tolerance of 18, allowing manufacturers to put in play drivers that are up to 257. That tolerance is 7.5% of the actual limit, so the method of measuring CT is clearly not the most accurate, which makes it all the more likely for differing readings to occur across multiple measurement devices. Science isn't perfect, no matter how much we'd like it to be.

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It’s still Callaways fault regardless imo for having one that is that close to tolerance levels. They could avoid it by not providing the tour van/players one that close as well as not checking all drivers in play periodically especially before The Open since they know unlike the usga the R&A are going to test 

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