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Greetings, fellow Spyers . . . 

So my game is improving (hit my first 230yd drive on Father's Day!) however my ability to lose a ridiculous amount of golf balls in any given round remains the same!

I play red and yellow golf balls so it's easier for me to find and ID mine on the course, and have been playing the Srixon Soft Feel, Bridgestone e6 Soft, and the Taylor Made Soft Response (I am a 59yo "beginner") Played my first Pro V1's this weekend (courtesy of my son-in-law) and was wondering if there was such a thing as the "Poor-Man's" Pro V1 so I can play those and am not throwing away $50-$100 per round (yes, I lost 2dz golf balls in the high weeds this weekend.)

Thanks All . . .

Marty

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Thanks, jlukes, but it looks like Snell is still out of product and not shipping anytime soon.

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I’d look here and compare balls of a similar firmness and cover to the prov1.  Maxfli tour might be a good option. 
 

https://mygolfspy.com/ball-lab-golf-ball-quality-comparison-tool/

 

that said, if you are losing 2 dozen balls a round, you might want to consider lessons and/or just playing bargain balls until you can control the ball direction a little better.  Or was the course that tough and you don’t normally loose that many?  

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I would suggest going to lostgolfballs.com and getting mint graded balls. I've been playing the titlieist tour soft and they come in a BRIGHT neon and seem pretty solid for the price used. 

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Snell is a good bet, but you could also try VICE golf balls.  Pro Soft and Pro Plus if you are really looking for something comparable.  But the the TOUR plays really good too.

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51 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Thanks, jlukes, but it looks like Snell is still out of product and not shipping anytime soon.

The MTB-x is available in white, but limited to 2 dozen per order right now.  I got my order within a week, just a week ago.  I see all of their yellow balls are temporarily unavailable.

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

I’d look here and compare balls of a similar firmness and cover to the prov1.  Maxfli tour might be a good option. 
 

https://mygolfspy.com/ball-lab-golf-ball-quality-comparison-tool/

 

that said, if you are losing 2 dozen balls a round, you might want to consider lessons and/or just playing bargain balls until you can control the ball direction a little better.  Or was the course that tough and you don’t normally loose that many?  

So . . . I AM taking lessons, and I am losing less and less balls by the round, but when I play a really challenging private course like this weekend vs. some of the more forgiving public courses, I've yet to figure out how NOT to put my ball in the high grass/weeds and find those damn things!!! LOL (this was an anomaly)

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I'd play the cheapest ball I could get at your point in the game.  If you just want to spend more money then LostGolfBalls.com is your next best bet.  I'm not even sure I'd opt for mint at this point in your development.

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Any thoughts on the Volvik Vimax? They are on sale right now, thought to try them but don't know much about them?

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28 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Any thoughts on the Volvik Vimax? They are on sale right now, thought to try them but don't know much about them?

Not at all like a prov1.   You are looking for a tour level ball;  from volvik that would be the S3 or S4.  Kirkland balls might be an option worth looking into; not as good as when they originally came out but not horrible.  

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5 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Not at all like a prov1.   You are looking for a tour level ball;  from volvik that would be the S3 or S4.  Kirkland balls might be an option worth looking into; not as good as when they originally came out but not horrible.  

Given my current skill level, should I even be entertaining a Pro V1-like ball? Maybe I need to dial-back my enthusiasm and find something else like the ones I am already playing?

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15 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Given my current skill level, should I even be entertaining a Pro V1-like ball? Maybe I need to dial-back my enthusiasm and find something else like the ones I am already playing?

you will get the best performance out of a tour level ball; both distance and spin control.   That said based on you game description I personally would look at less expensive balls; maybe even used, since you lose so many.  Distance should be about the same with the biggest downgrade being iron and green side spin.  You can always switch once you get beater control of you shot dispersion. 

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3 hours ago, jlukes said:

Snell MTB Black is your best bet for the price.

You'll get your money back in golf balls if you take lessons!

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50 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Given my current skill level, should I even be entertaining a Pro V1-like ball? Maybe I need to dial-back my enthusiasm and find something else like the ones I am already playing?

My take would be that everyone values different things. Some guys spend $50/dozen knowing it's the best ball they could play and if they lose a dozen in a round, at least they maximized performance for the ball while they had it. Other guys go to Dick's (or insert retailer of choice) and find the balls at their preferred price point and just play until they find a ball that generally works for them. (My neighbor is in this category, having settled on the Bridgestone e12 because it gives him soft feel, high launch, and low spin, which equates to more distance. His wedges are 5+ years old and he doesn't think he's hit a shot in his life that has backed up on the green, so a Tour ball that has a urethane cover might actually cause some issues for parts of his game. Plus he doesn't want to spend that much.)

The MyGolfSpy mantra is to pick a ball and play it, for every shot of every round. Some of us don't want the investment that comes with that strategy and so we play within comparable categories. Or you can do what I did up until a couple years ago (including when I played in college) -- buy whatever you want at the store (for me it was typically in the $20-25/dozen range) and then scour the rough/woods when you go play and build up a stash of what you find.

 

(Just don't buy range balls from the shop and then play with those.... that's rude.)

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If you want a Poor Man's version of a Tour Ball, you're not going to find anything that fits that description better than the Kirkland Signature 3 piece ball.  I'm not sure there are many new balls you can buy that are $1 per ball, much less one that provides the performance you'll get out of them.
 

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Wilson Staff Duo Soft are $20.00 a dozen.  I will suggest to you the same thing I have suggested to other similar queries on this forum.  Use whatever ball you can afford to lose.  Play a ball you are comfortable giving a cursory look for, and then dropping another and playing on, for the sake of pace of play.  Whatever value of ball that is for you,  only you can say.   

 

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1 hour ago, Shaun Smith said:

You'll get your money back in golf balls if you take lessons!

Already responded that I am taking lessons. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and developing a golf game feels like it will take longer than building Rome!

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1 minute ago, stuka44 said:

Wilson Staff Duo Soft are $20.00 a dozen.  I will suggest to you the same thing I have suggested to other similar queries on this forum.  Use whatever ball you can afford to lose.  Play a ball you are comfortable giving a cursory look for, and then dropping another and playing on, for the sake of pace of play.  Whatever value of ball that is for you,  only you can say.   

 

I have several dozen of those, but the driver manufacturer is telling me that playing those 35 compression balls is like hitting marshmallows and I need harder ones (ergo my Srixon's.)

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The Srixon Z-Star is only 2 compression points softer, and has all the same qualities as ProV1 (3pc, mid flight, mid spin) per the MGS ball labs. And regardless of their 0-100 metric, it was only 3% worse in the True Price rating.

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Normally, I'd steer clear of this topic, but today I will weigh in. In my opinion, the answer is NO. Ball manufacturers are not going to create a ball that performs like Titleist's Pro V1 line, then sell it for nothing. They might as well burn money. Pro V1s didn't/don't just happen. They are the result of meticulous R&D, which costs $$$. Additionally,  they are constantly being tweaked, in the areas of performance & durability.  Different performance characteristics are test win the lab, on the tour and on the course - witness the current Testers Wanted. Two different balls are being offered to us to test and evaluate. They may make it to the market, they may not. I don't believe any other ball company devotes that much time energy and resources to their product. The closest thing to a poor man's pro V1 is, IMHO, an older version of the ball, which can be bought on the internet for a reasonable price. 

I AM NOT SAYING other companies don't produce quality balls; they do, indeed. One of which just might be the better ball for you. I am saying Titleist takes their ball R&D and Marketing to another level. I've played the Kirkland 4 piece, the TP5, and others, and loved them. However, I feel I get much more from the Pro V1, without having to make trade-offs (other than price - but, hey! I'm really good at sussing out great buys on new Pro V1.s).

I'd recommend you take your swing to a reliable ball fitter and get his/her input. Then try other balls. 

FYI The Pro V1x is the only Titleist product in my bag. I've had others, but I've found brands that provide more of what I need/want is those areas than Titleist does. Their apparel? That's another topic all together. I love their clothing, too!

 

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^^^ I don’t disagree with your POV, while there are several world class tour balls, by all accounts Titleist makes the most consistent tour ball. But in that $49/dozen, I wonder how much the customer pays for endorsements? [I searched for income statements but didn’t find one with that kind of detail] It should be possible to make a ball to match Titleist performance and consistency at a (substantially) lower price (without endorsements, marketing, sponsorship, retail support) - as you know that’s what DTC is all about, like Snell. They haven’t done it yet, but maybe they will in time…

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8 hours ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Greetings, fellow Spyers . . . 

So my game is improving (hit my first 230yd drive on Father's Day!) however my ability to lose a ridiculous amount of golf balls in any given round remains the same!

I play red and yellow golf balls so it's easier for me to find and ID mine on the course, and have been playing the Srixon Soft Feel, Bridgestone e6 Soft, and the Taylor Made Soft Response (I am a 59yo "beginner") Played my first Pro V1's this weekend (courtesy of my son-in-law) and was wondering if there was such a thing as the "Poor-Man's" Pro V1 so I can play those and am not throwing away $50-$100 per round (yes, I lost 2dz golf balls in the high weeds this weekend.)

Thanks All . . .

Snell MTB, Vice Pro, Cut (Red?) and Maxfli Tour are all what I would call a poor man's Pro V1.  They perform almost exactly the same as a Pro V and cost about $25 a dozen.  Ive been playing the Maxfli Tour for the past year, Ive played Pro V1s in the past and I honestly cant tell the different from a Pro V1 to the Maxfli.

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10 minutes ago, Tyler86 said:

I wish there was someone loosing 2 dozen proVs at my course! Kirkland 3 piece are fantastic balls if you never play one long enough to wash them.

The funny thing is, as this course was killer with HIGH grass, we found lots of Pro V1's that other unfortunate souls like us were losing. My son played the entire day (after the first hole) with Pro V1's he found.

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Honestly, if you are losing 12-24 balls per round now is not the time for new balls. Buy some gently used balls or some cheap WalMart balls until you can keep it under 4-5 lost per round then start to experiment with high dollar distance or feel balls. We've all been where you are now and for me Spaulding X-Outs were my ball of choice when I was just learning. 

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I'm still good for a lost 3-4 balls per round and I stick with the sub $30/doz balls. I've tried playing with ProV1s and I honestly do not notice enough of a difference to justify the price of those vs Duo Soft, Bridgestone e6/e12, Srixon Q Star, etc. If I were in the OP's shoes I'd grab a bunch of Top Flite Hammer Controls on sale at Dicks and go have fun. I speak from experience, because I've done the same! 

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:mizuno-small: ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex
:mizuno-small: ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex
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Thank you, everyone, for your input. It confirms my thoughts, which is at this time I really gain nothing with Pro V1's (original or clones) and sticking with the one's I'm playing - and even adding back into my ball rotation the Wilson DUO's, is the best bet until I gain some better control or I win the lottery LOL! 

My pulling the DUO's out of my bag was because of the very low compression and the recommendation from the driver manufacturer to use a higher compression ball, but maybe that doesn't have to be the case? Anyone interested in buying four dozen brand new Optix Yellow DUO's? 

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2 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Thank you, everyone, for your input. It confirms my thoughts, which is at this time I really gain nothing with Pro V1's (original or clones) and sticking with the one's I'm playing - and even adding back into my ball rotation the Wilson DUO's, is the best bet until I gain some better control or I win the lottery LOL! 

My pulling the DUO's out of my bag was because of the very low compression and the recommendation from the driver manufacturer to use a higher compression ball, but maybe that doesn't have to be the case? Anyone interested in buying four dozen brand new Optix Yellow DUO's? 

To be blunt, the manufacturer's recommendation means very little when it comes to your specific game and how you feel about the balls you're playing. If you enjoy playing the DUO and don't notice any appreciable distance loss or concerns vs. other balls, then by all means keep playing them. 

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:mizuno-small: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex
:mizuno-small: ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex
:mizuno-small: ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex
:cleveland-small: Launcher 5h
:wilson_staff_small: D200 6i-GW
:cleveland-small: CBX 54* & 58*
:cleveland-small: Huntington Beach #10
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If you are loosing balls at that rate, does it really matter the quality of the ball.  First thing you need to do, with respect, is to hit the ball and control it.  If I were you, again with all due respect, I would go to Walmart and purchase the cheapest ball you can find, and they do have refinished golf balls for under ten dollars and some are even Titleist and play those.  I would take that $100 a round you are wasting in lost golf balls and see a teacher and make golf more enjoyable.  If you are loosing two dozen a round, you are costing yourself at least 48 strokes a round, minimum.  Lessons, lessons, lessons then worry about the type of golf ball.  Vice and Kirkland are not comparable to Prov1s, just cheaper.  Kirkland at one time made a good ball, but changed molds and now, well not so good.  There are a lot of wannabe Titleist balls, but they cannot backup the R&D, the performance, the quality and the customer service.  I was fitted for them years ago and have never looked back.  I also saw an instructor to get my game in line over the past few years, once I retired and made a big difference.  Saw him this week for a few tweaks.  Am 75 and the best I can get the ball out there is 230+.  I bet if I took the markings off a dozen different balls and let you hit them, you could not tell the difference on the driving range.  Just saying.  Once you game got down to a single digit, you probably could.  With respect to you game, hope you find what you are looking for.  Follow that dream.  Cheers, CZ        

Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR

Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 

Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S

Hybrid - TSR1 19.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75  

Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75

Irons - T350 (2023) - 5-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g

Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S, 58.08M 

**  GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips  (all woods/irons/wedges)

Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" 

**  Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip  

Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1 (2023)                                                         

Golf Bags - TITLEIST  - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white)

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