Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 Testers Announced! About Indi Golf Clubs: Headquartered in the heart of the golf industry haven of Carlsbad, CA, Indi Golf is a developer, global seller, and manufacturer of premium wedges and putters. At Indi Golf, the designers and engineers respect the sport of golf, and have a deep desire to grow the game by bringing its enjoyment to players of every background, experience, and ability. Each individual golfer connects with the sport in his or her own way, and it is Indi Golf’s ultimate goal to give golfers top quality products that will perform to the highest level, unlocking pure enjoyment for the game. Please welcome and congratulate our testers! @Nunfa0 @RichL85 @BMart519 @Willie T MDGolfHacker, TylorJudd, MuniGolfer and 19 others 20 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nunfa0 Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 Well, hello all my fellow spies! My name is John and I have the good fortune to live in a little slice of paradise called New Zealand. To be precise I live in Christchurch, the largest city in the South Island - Te WaiPonamu. Yes, we have had a few shakes a while ago, but things are settled around here for the moment. There are about 34 golf courses within an hour's drive of me, but I have stuck with my childhood course, Templeton Golf Club, for the past 40 years. I joined at the age of 11 after an injury ended my Rugby and Rugby League careers very early. Here are a few pictures of some of the courses for you to drool over I have had the joy of learning golf from my father and it's his fault that I am a lefty. He gave me his old clubs to learn with even though I am right-handed in every other way. I currently get to enjoy playing golf with my brother and nephew, whom are both Templeton members too. I joined MGS 6 years ago and have been part of a few tests. It is still a huge honour to be chosen and I can't thank the Mods enough for that. Also, I have to say a massive thanks to Indi Golf for giving us this opportunity, I shall endeavour to give your clubs a fair, honest and thorough test. Right enough about me, on to the clubs. My current wedges are Cleveland RTX Zipcores with Dynamic Gold Spinner wedge shafts. I have a 52, 56 and 60 all 10-degree mid grinds. They are good wedges and my full shot averages with them are 92, 82 and 71 yards. After our online fitting I have ended up with... FLX S-Grind Left-Handed × 1 52° / 10° FLX / Dynamic Gold Spinner 115 Wedge / Conforming (Conforms to the rules of golf - TT) FLX S-Grind Left-Handed × 1 56° / 12° FLX / Dynamic Gold Spinner 115 Wedge / Conforming (Conforms to the rules of golf - TT) FLX S-Grind Left-Handed × 1 60° / 8° FLX / Dynamic Gold Spinner 115 Wedge / Conforming (Conforms to the rules of golf - TT) So it is pretty much a straight head to head. My test plan for the Indi wedges is pretty simple. I am looking to answer the following questions. Will they be longer than my current set? Are they as forgiving as Indi claim? Can I manipulate the face for the little touch shots around the green? Are these good wedges for chipping? And the big question, can I spin the ball off a green? First Impressions (20 out of 20) These wedges are PURDY!! As soon as I saw them, I knew we would get on very well. Also, the way they were packed was excellent, no chance of damage (within reason of course) and that is big considering how far they had to travel. You can clearly see the smaller hosel and where they have stripped weight. You can see above the sharper front edge and slightly closed stance on the Indi My dog approves too... Look at the big inviting face on the Indi Aesthetics (10 out of 10) General Shape: For me these have a classic shape with a large, welcoming face. They just look like they want to be hit. Graphics/Badging: The badging is very simple, Just Indi on the back with the crossed club's logo. The sole has the loft and grind as well as the model, FLX in my case. How does the overall look come together? It really is a classy look and I like it. No need for flashy graphics or gimmicky colours here. How does the appearance compare to other clubs in the same category? Indi has done really well and have produced a product that has a premium look and slots in well with the Mizuno's, Vokeys and Cleveland's of the world. Are they flashy? Do other players notice them in your bag without being prompted? Put simply, no. They just blend in with my Titleist irons like they belong. When it comes to sound and feel, again Indi have produced a premium product. The sound of a well struck shot is a solid, satisfying crack. Not loud or harsh in any way and very much like a Vokey from my previous experience. The feel is crisp and pleasant, you know you have struck it well and there is nothing jarring about it. When it comes to mishits, they let you know but it's not unpleasant. When I'm talking mishits, for me it's the toe. I am a shocker for finding the toe when chipping and pitching. It's almost like the club was saying "Hey that was a bit crap, but I'll forgive you and look after you". Overall, the sound and feel are encouraging and make it an enjoyable experience when hitting shots with these wedges. Now when it comes to performance, these wedges come into their own. For a start these things are accurate!! Well, as accurate as I can make them . When I put a good swing on them, I can put it straight down the barrel. Distance wise, these things are longer than the RTX wedges I am gaming. Not hugely, but it's there. I will be able to tell better once the weather warms up some more (Yes, I've been testing in winter), but the signs are good so far. Also, I have not had any "jumpers", the old 20 yards further than normal. The flight of these wedges is right in the window I like. Not towering, not low bullets but right in-between. Goldilocks would be delighted . Forgiveness, a word that is so important to the majority of us. Are these wedges forgiving? Yes, they are. Of course, everything comes at a price and there is a drop off when you miss the middle but it's not massive. Infact in my last round I hit a tee shot that was a little closer to the hosel than I would have liked but it still hit the green, a very welcome sight indeed. Toe hits are definitely more "clicky" but again are manageable. Infact my chipping mishaps are mitigated, mostly. Control, something we all want and need in our game. Well, for me control has not been an issue. like I said these are a little longer for me, but it is consistent and predictable. Another thing has been chipping and pitching. These are the first wedges I have ever been able to hit a twenty-yard chip that takes two hops and stops dead. Like I have said before, they just give me confidence. Workability is excellent. I always like to be able to open the face, use the bounce and try things. These clubs welcome that sort of behaviour and like to help. The groove out to the toe have taken a beating from me so far On-Course 18 out of 20 The Good, the bad, the in-between (10 out of 20) So far, I have been complimentary of these wedges but here I will point out what I don't like. This winter has been very wet in my area and has left soft conditions. That was not good when I first started playing with these wedges. They have a tendency to act like shovels, scooping out huge divots. They were slicing straight down into the earth like a submarine crash diving away from a plane. It took me a couple of rounds to find a solution. That solution leads nicely into my next dislike, these clubs seem to sit closed. I had to deliberately open the face at address to avoid pulling to the right. This helped with the "fats" but it still seems odd that I have to almost think about the bounce on full shots. The only other dislike is the lack of options for lefties, no ATK for us but I suppose that will come one day. Play it or Trade it? (15 out of 20) Well, yes I am going to put these in the bag. I think the more I use them the better they will get. The only caveat is that if we have another wet winter I may just "rest" them till the ground firms up again. Conclusion Let's go back and look at my original question. Will they be longer than my current set? Yes, they are longer but not crazy long. Are they as forgiving as Indi claim? From what I have seen so far, yes they are. Can I manipulate the face for the little touch shots around the green? Absolutely yes!! Are these good wedges for chipping? Oh my word yes!! I think the forgiving nature of these beauties helps a lot with that. And the big question, can I spin the ball off a green? Well, no. But I think I will get more spin when there is less moisture around, so watch this space... Final Score (83 out of 100) Stereotype, Indi Golf, GolfSpy SAM and 19 others 14 7 1 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, Nippon Modus Tour 115 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichL85 Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Greetings from the heat of central California. I would like to start by thanking MGS and the guys at Indi Golf for making this testing opportunity available to us. For a little about me, I am a chemical engineer by day with an amazing (and stubborn) wife and two kids that keep me extremely busy. I have struggled in the past with figuring out who I am, but I’ve learned to be ok with being a bit of an “Otaku”. That means sarcastic gif’s are my go-to responses in text or forums, I can often be found reading manga, cooking/baking, especially Japanese food, or playing the occasional video game. I started golfing in college, but took an extended break for about 13 years due to life, until I picked it back up in 2021, around the time I joined MGS. I also started trying to take better care of what I eat and going to the gym regularly. As a result, I have dropped about 60 pounds in the past two years and feel so much better on a daily basis. In terms of my game, I’m always going to be a work in progress. I’m currently sitting around a 15 handicap, partially from not playing enough, and partially from throwing a grenade or two (or the occasional handful) at my scorecard each round. I’ve made it no secret that I don’t particularly enjoy the necessary parts of practice to get better. This includes the short game. At one point, I played courses specifically to leave myself a 7-9 iron into the green rather than try to get closer and risk having to hit a wedge. I’m working on it regularly now, but I can get in my own head pretty badly. I was fit for my current wedges last year, and while there is nothing wrong with them, the best way I can describe them is, “They are ok…” I have days where I hit them well, and other days I just can’t seem to figure them out. OF course that is mostly on me, but when the opportunity came up to test the Indi wedges, I was excited, especially with the redistribution of weight to move the CG towards the center of the face. My miss tendency is towards the toe, and with my current PXG wedges, that means I’m coming up well short. Looking at my Shotscope data recently, My distance to the hole after a wedge shot needs some serious improvement. I am, on average, 25 feet away when hitting a wedge from the 25-50 yard range, which I obviously want to drop. That’s what I mean by needing improvement. Longer approaches have not been much better with the wedges honestly, with my average distances being 61, 48, and 34 feet away for my wedges. I feel that these kinds of stats are adding a number of strokes to my score, so I’m hoping to drop these numbers and taken some of the pressure off my lag putting. As you can clearly see, approach has not been my specialty over the last year. I don’t feel that I am a huge spinner of the ball with wedges. During the Titleist ProV1 testing, I was seeing 8500-9000 rpm with my 58 degree wedge. So with testing the Indi wedges, I’m looking at two aspects during the testing. The first is whether or not they spin more and launch lower than my current wedges as Indi states they are designed to do. I don’t play in a ton of wind often, but I would like to hit a flatter trajectory and have more spin to hold greens with the wedges. The second part of the testing is simply whether or not they perform to get me closer to the hole and hopefully lower my scores. We experienced what Indi golf calls a “virtual fitting” which is essentially a questionnaire to answer the basic things like what wedges we currently play, what shaft we play in irons, distance, course conditions and divot type. In my case, I play in pretty intermediate conditions and take a small or no divot. I’m definitely classified as a “picker”. To give an idea, this is the divot from a full wedge shot and a ball next to it for size comparison. This is about as large of a divot as I’m typically going to take. Overall, most of the decisions were pretty straightforward. We stuck with the same lofts I’m currently playing (50, 54, and 58), 1/2" long, 1 degree upright. To match up with my irons, we also stuck with the KBS wedge shaft option. One interesting thing of note is that the Indi Golf website actually does not show the KBS wedge shaft as an option for the FLX head, but it does show for the ATK head. This seems to be just a programming oversight and my wedges will be coming with the KBS shaft. Since I don’t have a particularly steep attack angle, we are going with the FLX head in the 50 and 54, but the ATK head for the 58 degree. My hope is that this will give me more options around the green and in bunkers. It also reminds me a lot of my old Callaway X-forged 58 degree that I loved. Most of testing will be done outdoors on the course and in the short game areas of the courses local to me, with probably one or two launch monitor sessions to get spin numbers to check the claims by Indi. To earn a spot in the bag, these wedges will have to get my average distance from the hole down, and give me consistent reactions around the green. The last thing I need with an already shaky wedge game is to not know how much reaction to expect when the ball hits the green. As requested, we will see if I can get rip one or two off the green. And as we all know, if it’s not on video, it didn’t happen! First Impressions (16 of 20) With Indi located close, the clubs were built and arrived only a few days after the virtual fitting. The clubs arrived with the Indi box showing no damage or mishandling and everything was in good shape with some additional swag items. First glance of the clubs, they are what I would call minimalistic, especially compared to my PXG irons. This isn’t a bad thing, as the PXG wedges are fairly minimal in appearance as well. The first thing you notice with the Indi wedges are the grooves. It’s a unique look as most companies have gone to large grooves, whereas the Indi wedges have a lot more grooves, but they are thinner. The next visual aspect that jumps out is just the sheer thickness of the topline at the toe of the clubhead. This part is beveled off well so it’s not noticeable at address, but when you look at the clubs, there is a significant difference in the width of the clubhead at the toe when comparing near the hosel. The claim is that adds weight to the toe, and moves the CG away from the hosel similar to how many companies use tungsten toe weights. It seems effective enough, but it’s not exactly groundbreaking technology, as even the PXG wedges have a similar design but to less of an extreme. The Indi wedges did lose a few points for some build concerns. I can’t be sure as to why, perhaps different measuring techniques or something different entirely, but all three of the Indi wedges came 3/8 – 1/2 inch longer than expected. My PXG wedges had been originally built at standard length so I expected the Indi wedges to be 1/2 inch longer than my current clubs, but they came in closer to an inch longer, giving me a 50 degree wedge that was the same length as my PW. I worked in the club repair/building area of a golf shop back in college so I can do some basic work on the clubs and made the necessary changes to get both wedge sets to the same length to compare. Another small concern was the standard size grip rather than the midsize that was discussed during the phone call. Obviously the entire process of making these corrections took maybe 15 minutes tops for the Indi wedges, but it is worth mentioning. Aesthetics (9 of 10) If I had to describe the appearance of my PXG wedges, I would say, “Eh, it’s a wedge.” The Indi wedges are similar, but have a little more flare to my eye with the “Sloth” design on the FLX heads and the three black dots on the ATK head. The more brushed finish of the Indi wedges looks better in the bag to me compared to the shiny chrome of my PXG wedges. One thing I found interesting was that despite being more of a brushed finish, the Indi wedge actually seemed to reflect the glare of the sun off the face a bit more than the PXG. The glare did cause the Indi wedge to lose a point here, but overall they are good looking, minimalist clubs. They don’t draw much attention in the bag, but that could be that they are overshadowed by the PXG irons in terms of appearance, but other players did ask quite a few questions when they saw the clubs up close. It was mentioned in the community call that the Indi wedges are cast compared to the forged heads that PXG uses for their wedges. Does that make a difference? Kind of. I didn’t notice any particular difference in “feel”, but I draw a comparison like I did between the ProV1 and ProV1x during the Titleist ball testing. The sound is different. There is a little more of a click sound to the Indi wedge, almost like snapping your fingers. I’ve mentioned before that I’m annoyingly sensitive to certain sounds, but did not have any issues with the sound of the wedges, but it was a noticeable difference. I definitely got a more aggressive note when hit out towards the toe, but it’s subtle. Overall, no complaints on the sound or look of the wedge other than some potential issues with glare. The Numbers (8 of 10) I’m almost certain that I’m going to get some flak for this score, but hear me out first. I took these clubs to the launch monitor and used various clubs going at targets at 60 yards and 75 yards, as well as full swings to compare some numbers against my PXG wedges. On paper, everything about the Indi wedges beats the PXG wedges in this situation. Looking at the 60 yard and 75 yard target results, much smaller dispersion, much closer to target for the Indi wedges on both. Looking at launch angle and spin, Indi wins outright with lower launch angle as promised, and quite a bit more spin. The 58 degree had slightly more variance when compared to my PXG 58 degree, whereas the FLX heads won over the PXG wedges all around. These spin numbers are pretty low, even for me, and I don’t know the particular ball being used at this location. I was told it was a Bridgestone ball, but there were no markings to indicate which type. So of course the question is, why only 8 of 10? It’s very difficult to describe, but I had an obnoxious amount of trouble dialing in those 1/2 – 3/4 shots with the 54 and 58 degree wedges. There were a number of times in the short game area that I would take these swings and hit the same distances with varying length swings. Trajectory and spin would change, but overall distance would be the same. It was, weird, to describe it. The 50 degree wedge I have not had this issue with and it has become my go to wedge under 100 yards. The 54 and 58 degree wedges have left me short quite a bit with shots that just did not seem to go the distance I was expecting for the swing that was made. On Course (17 of 20) At the end of the day, what really matters is whether these clubs perform on the course when the pressure is on. Looking at my Strokes Gained numbers from the PXG wedges, you can see I’m gaining a little bit with my short game, but I still consider it a weakness of my game. Since putting the Indi wedges in play, my Strokes Gained has skyrocketed all around compared to a 15 handicap, especially the short game. If we just look at the straight numbers comparing the PXG wedges against the Indi wedges, we see that all around, the Indi wedges are getting me closer to the hole, and that’s never a bad thing. On average, I’m 3 feet closer when I’m inside 50 yards, which has been a huge help to take some pressure off my putting. More important than all of these numbers, in the same round I had these two great shots. A 14 yard chip in with the 50 degree and this one out of the sand from 25 yards to save par with the 54. I would say I’m still far more comfortable with the 50 degree than either of the other wedges, but they are coming around. The 58 degree with the ATK head has been especially interesting as by the description from Indi, it really doesn’t fit my swing. I don’t take deep divots, and the area I live in is pretty much in a perpetual drought, so things tend to be pretty dry, but I do like having the sole relief of the ATK. I think the right call was made to go with the FLX head in the other two as I use them for full swings a decent amount of the time, but the 58 degree is almost never hit with a full swing. The good, the bad, and the in-between (17 of 20) So a few things were noticeable during the testing period with the Indi wedges. One thing that was noticed both in testing and on the launch monitor was that I had a tendency to hit left of target just slightly with the Indi wedges while my PXG wedges tended to go a little right of target. Both sets are at a degree upright, but on closer inspection, it seems, at least to my eye, that the Indi wedges sit slightly closed compared to my current set. After paying a little more attention to this and adjusting the face angle, the performance has been better. As far as to whether the Indi wedges create more spin than competitors as they claim. I can’t say for sure. According to the launch monitor, they do spin more, and it seems to show on the course, with some examples like these. Basically a one hop and stop from the 50 degree wedge. More impressive, but not exactly the best result for accuracy, this rip from the 58 degree. Not the easiest thing to see, but the repair tool is sitting at the pitch mark, a good 8 steps away from where my ball ended up. This made for a very long first putt. This kind of reaction is something I will need more time to adjust to. Play it or trade it (18 of 20) At the end of the day, am I going to keep the Indi wedges in my bag? Realistically, based on recent rounds, I would be crazy not to play them right? Closer to the pin when inside 50 yards, personal best score, increase in Strokes Gained compared to the PXG wedges. As mentioned, there have been some issues with partial shot distance control with the wedges that pops up randomly sometimes, which is frustrating. Is Indi going to replace Vokey as probably the standard when it comes to wedges? Probably not, but they are solid performers and I’m enjoying the little bit of extra forgiveness they seem to have. It does seem that contacting Indi directly is the best way to go through ordering as it appears that there are a lot more options available than what is shown in their website, plus the guys are great to discuss things with to make sure the makeup is right. If a player wants to be able to spin a wedge, then Indi is definitely worth a look, but be prepared for an adjustment period if you used to seeing the ball roll out. Conclusion Whew, that’s a lot to digest I know. Long story short, Indi makes quality wedges that perform. They aren’t exactly the most tech-heavy clubs, but realistically wedges typically aren’t, but they do have subtle tweaks to perform for the common person. My strike pattern is larger than a dime, so I appreciate the forgiveness that comes with these clubs. The spin is fun and sometimes frustrating, but such is golf. I wouldn’t be completely honest if I didn’t mention being slightly disappointed with the build issues, but I’m confident that was a one-off as the other testers received things as expected, and we all received the clubs very quickly. If you happen to be in the Carlsbad area, I would definitely recommend going by to get a true fitting, as the sole patterns definitely react differently, and sometimes what makes sense logically doesn’t work in the real world. I’m sure there will be players that want more bounce options and even more sole grind options, but that’s not me, and those people have Vokey and other competitors to shop from. While the court is still out on whether Indi is the undisputed King of Spin, they are putting out a very good offering that is making a serious attempt at that claim. Overall Score: 85 of 100 Edited September 13, 2023 by RichL85 Review posted. Nunfa0, jnz12, GolfSpy_KFT and 15 others 13 4 1 Quote Driver: Titleist GT3 w/ GD Tour AD VF 6S (Testing in progress) 3 & 5 Woods: Titleist GT3 w/ GD Tour AD VF 7S (Testing in progress) Hybrids: 19 and 22 degree PXG 0317XF Gen 4 w/ Project X Evenflow Riptide 80g Irons: 5-PW PXG 0311P Gen 4 w/ KBS Tour 120 Wedges: Indi 50 FLX, 54 FLX, 58 ATK w/ KBS Wedge 610 (Official Review) Putter: PXG Battle Ready Blackjack, 36.5”, Double Bend neck Titleist GT Long Game Testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BMart519 Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Indi Wedges – Official MGS Forum Review by BMart Introduction Very excited to see if these can improve the weakest part of my game (see strokes gained data below vs a 10 index). With over 150 rounds in Shot Scope, I have extensive detail on struggle within 25 yards and bunkers. The wedges will be on course shortly after receiving them to start tracking data. With an up/down% of 27% including 3% on sand saves the bar is low for improvement... I'll be putting them through their paces on the firm, dry turf in Alberta but should have the opportunity to take them into a rainforest in British Columbia and on a trip to Florida when I visit the pater familias (Chasing Scratch reference) who taught me to play I was young. I gave up golf through high school and university due to lack of attention span and never progressing past shooting around 120. After moving from Ontario to Alberta when finished university, I gradually got back into golf and have been fully bitten the last 5-6 years with big help from this site and forum During this time my index dropped from a shaky 15-20 to the mid 9's which is my lowest ever. My personality leads me to look for gains in every possible area in the quest further down into single digits, including: speed training, lessons, fitting, ball testing, and rotating many unfit in and out of the bag. I plan on testing these wedges in 4 areas: - hitting on a mat in my garage using the 40-100 yard approach mode on my SC200 launch monitor - hitting chips in my yard where I have room for 5-30 yards of carry - short game facilities at local courses to learn the roll out greenside - on the course, where the bar is set pretty high in terms of GIR from inside 125 yards... My current wedges are PING Glides which I like and have used multiple lofts and grinds as I refine my set make up. These wedges are 2-3 years old of 20-30 rounds per year of play and practice sessions similar to those above. I am sure there is an opportunity to raise spin to improve stopping power both on approaches and greenside. These wedges will be the first time with brand new grooves in 3-4 years as I've recently bought wedges from fitters at year end with minimal indoor use. I am excited to get that new groove bite like when I was fitted into a set of G410 irons. To earn a place in my bag, I'll be looking for an improved up/down % especially from the sand (which shouldn't be difficult at 3%...) and to improving proximity on approaches and greenside while maintaining GIR. Prior to reading another review, I had never heard of Indi or these wedges. I've seen better results with cavity back wedges and hope the weight high in the head with Indi provides similar benefits. First Impressions (17/20) Many thanks to @Indi Golf for the bonus swag to go along with these clean wedges. I still don't understand how to use a 1 prong divot tool, and will have to develop that part of my game along with these wedges Delivery was 1-2 days faster than expected with Fedex which has allowed me to get in 2 quick rounds of testing as I prepare to put these in play. The only thing faster was the responsiveness from Zane and the team at Indi laying out and building the set! Minor deduction here as the 52 and 56 came with plastic on heads while the 60 did not. It gave the feeling that one of the clubs was used, but all of them were in pristine condition. Above shows my PING 58 with 6 deg of bounce vs the Indi 60 w/8. The width of flange and lack of trailing edge and heel relief is something I pay attention to as a picker on hard turf. I am confused why the 60/8 has a larger flange than the Indi 56/12 when they are both in the same (FLX) grind. Below (left) shows the 58 and 60 from the toe side and similarities in shaping with the Ping Glide 3.0, so the construction of the Indi wedges with weight high in the club is by no means proprietary or unavailable elsewhere. Taking 2 points off here: 1 - the movement of weight high in the face to improve consistency is widely available and not a technology that differentiates these wedges. 2 - I feel a higher lofted wedge in same grind with less bounce should have a smaller sole to assemble as a set. Indi has other grinds with more bounce available if that was what you were looking for in a LW. The top of the PING Glide 2.0 (above right) has less exaggerated weight in the high toe vs the 3.0 and the Indi's. The soles are much more similar in width as well both having 12 deg of bounce. I think this clubs will function very similarly (insert foreshadowing)... Aesthetics (8/10) I don't know if the photos can do justice, but when I took these out on a sunny day it was like looking directly into the sun when it hits them perfectly. This is minor and not likely to occur often but distracting and beyond anything I noticed on any past wedges. The satin finish is otherwise very clean and the design is very minimalist (slanting too plain IMO) with only the Indi logo, sloth/meerkat image, and loft/bounce/grind. Another personal nitpick here is I am not a fan of the font. The Numbers (9/10) First test session was greenside chips from rough and comparing proximity to my gamer wedges with various short chips (downhill to green, uphill, flat and elevated above green - see knob in background). Considering these wedges are 56/60 vs my previous ones at 54/58, I was impressed that I was instantly hitting them as close or closer than my gamers. I believe some of this being due to the added spin helping stop downhill and elevated chips closer to the hole. And then it happened... I was alternating sets of 3 balls with each wedge when I chipped in with the Indi 56. Not to be out done, the old (less than trusty) PING 54 chipped in from the same location to keep things interesting. The distance from hole above is pretty similar but the Indi results on the left definitely had less lateral dispersion. A game I play is from the book Lowest Score Wins where you hit 3 balls from 1 spot to 3 different holes and score points for a ball ending within X feet of the hole, where X is your index (9 for me) and lose points outside this distance. You finish when you get to 50 points. Because of time constraints I only played to 25, butI got there significantly faster with the Indi 60 than my PING 58. This was after only using the wedges for 10-15 minutes vs something I have bagged for 2-3 seasons. Round 2 (Playability) was my backyard short game facility where I hit shots up to 30 yards of carry with targets at 10, 20, and 30 yards (plus a kiddie pool for dunk contests) from my range mat, or some very penal rough depending on how often I mow the lawn. The wider flange and lack of trailing edge relief showed up here with the 60 as I couldn't cleanly slide the wedge underneath the ball on a tight lie. Trajectory with the 60 was lower than expected off tight lies, likely due to poor contact. I also took much more noticeable divots in my lawn compared to my gamers (which almost never happens), but these wedges really seemed to shine in the rough (and sun). Trajectory was nice and high from rough to help 10-30 yard shots stop and I backed up a 15 yard wedge in the grass! At this point I am more comfortable using the 56 off tight lies due to the narrower flange and the leading edge seems to sit as close to the ground as the 60. I need to visit another facility where I can hit 40-60 shots into a green to see check/proximity on those shots. Hopefully, I will also be able to hit a few shots on the range to figure out gapping with all new lofts to finalize my rating and help the on course adjustment. Tested Indi 52&56 on MEVO+ for gapping and to compare w/PING 54 on 3/4 swings for short approaches. 5-6 shots each using Z star golf balls off hitting mat: PING 54 Indi 56 Indi 52 Findings: Indi 56 spun slightly LESS than a 2 year old 54 PING Glide 2.0, the Indi 52 was over 1000 rpm less with only 2 degree difference in loft. Given the reputation of the PING wedges in wet conditions, I have some concern there would be a noticeable difference there but have been unable to test. However, the distance variance shown by the deviation above continues to impress from the first time using these on anything over 30 yards. You can feel meaningful differences in fat and thin strikes and the ball ends up the distance you intend. I have a tendency to pull these wedges more, not sure if the lie angle is contributing but I need to make an effort to align them square to open at address as my default is to setup closed. Docking a couple points as I have not found anything to support their spin royalty claims as spin is comparable/lower to that of major OEMs but distance control and consistency on mishits appears to exceed. On-Course (18/20) Testing consisted of 6 round tracked with Shot Scope to provide hard data, 2 rounds without Shot Scope, and 1 scramble. First, the data comparing 6 rounds with the Indi wedges to the previous 6 rounds with my PING gamers (relative to a 5 index): Strokes Gained: Short Game Indi: -0.26 (+0.02@ 0-25 yards and -0.27@ 25-50 yards) Ping: -1.11 The Indi's are gaining me 0.85 shots per round within 25 yards, from 25-50 yard results were nearly identical. The added short game practice in the lead up and testing of these wedges gained me an additional 0.39 shots vs my full season average for a total improvement of 1.25 shots/round. Strokes Gained: Approach (50-100 yards) Indi: +0.13 (better than 5 index as someone who plays off 10...) PING: -0.62 Another Indi victory, this time by 0.75SG for a combined improvement of 1.6SG. I use the 52 up to about 105 yards but am not including results from the 100-150 yard range as it includes many other clubs which I cannot filter. But my overall GIR also increased roughly 5% during the 6 rounds with the Indi wedges. As I mentioned previously and others have also observed, these do tend to sit closed and as someone who has a left miss tendency with wedges they require special attention to ensure I am gripping/setting up square to slightly open. This is a small trade-off for the performance gains I've seen but when that pull appears on-course (like the 2 yesterday in a scramble) it can cause some doubt as to whether I was paying attention at setup or it was a bad swing. So I can't give a perfect score here. The good, The bad, The in-between (19/20) The consistency in distance on approach shots with the Indi wedges is their greatest strength in my opinion and was observed through indoor testing and on course. Poor strikes tended to drop spin which aided carry and rollout to arrive close to where a good strike would drop and stop. As someone who gets their money's worth by using the majority of the club face throughout the bag, these are a big benefit to my game within 100 yards. I am growing to enjoy the 60 FLX with low (8*) bounce and a wide flange as a specialty sand club. Yesterday I talked my scramble partners into a greenside sand shot which I put to 8' for a birdie. This took an adjustment period as it was a big change from my TS grind PING wedge shown in the side by side picture above. There could be players who could not use that type of sole geometry and I do think there is an opportunity for Indi to add a grind option there. To be fair, opening up the 56 has served the need as required and likely lead to a decent portion of my improvement inside 25 yards. The wedges show minimal wear through close to 10 rounds and many practice sessions including bunker work to learn how to use them out of the sand which I consider another plus. Play it or trade it? (18/20) Pricing disclaimer*** this is based on Canadian retail prices and converting USD for the Indi's. Callaway/TM/Vokey's cost $25 more/wedge assuming no markup at a big box store, shipping or import costs (which is unlikely). Only PINGs at $65/club more are considerably more expensive while Mizuno/Cleveland sell for the same or less. This would be a challenge to get these wedges in people's hands who can't see or test in store and you would hope to be an area of separation for a DTC brand. Ignoring cost, I am 100% putting these wedges into play full time. I don't think anyone would turn down an improvement of more than 1.5 shots/round due to an equipment change. The staff at Indi were very helpful discussing a gapping setup which also contributed to the improvement and I am going to continue with a 5 wedge setup for the short term to see if I continue to improve as I develop more familiarity with these clubs. For a 10 index with a shaky short game equivalent to that of a 15 to climb to the level of 5 index in that area over a 1-2 month window speaks to the forgiveness and consistency of this product. I would highly recommend these for any mid to high handicap golfer as they can be manipulated but offer the help you should be seeking to play your best. The spin gains didn't show up for me indoors, would other new wedges have provided similar gains with better gapping? Who knows... The on course improvements discussed throughout this review occurred mostly at courses I never played before and better results were achieved on the few rounds played on local courses I am familiar with. I expect further gains during periods of play at my normal rotation and as I continue building familiarity. Conclusion Great: distance consistency on full swings and partial wedges, greenside performance from rough, 1.6 shot improvement within 100 yards over previous gamers! Good: clean/minimalist appearance, durability, sand performance (likely an operator issue) Could be better: tendency to sit closed at address, glare can be an issue in high sun, spin appeared lower than used PING wedges with indoor testing, in a perfect world - slightly lower cost for DTC. Final Score (89/100) Edited September 15, 2023 by BMart519 GolfSpy_SHARK, Derek Lusk, Willie T and 18 others 16 4 1 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Willie T Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Indi Golf Wedges - Forum Review by Willie T Intro- Well hello, MGS Community! My name is Willie Tyndall (aka @Willie T on the forum pages). I am a newbie to the testing community as I am a first time tester but a member since 2019. I am excited and thankful to be chosen for this wedge review with the Indi Golf wedges. But before I get too far into that story let’s set the table so to speak on what brought my journey in golf to this point in time. I have always been a person who loves the outdoors. I grew up here in Eastern NC, which meant I had ample time to hunt, fish, play baseball and all the other things a kid of the ‘60s would have enjoyed. Yes, that means I will be 64 in a couple of weeks! So how does a kid who does everything but golf get into the game? I grew up watching some golf on TV, seeing Trevino, Nicklaus, Palmer, Player, Norman, Seve’, etc. make their way around the course. Anyone remember the old “Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf” TV series (still watch one now and again on YouTube) But it was not a game within reach as my parents were not country club folk. Fast forward to my working career in procurement for a chemical processing facility and the invitation in 2009 to play in a 9-hole Super-Ball team building exercise. I was to just fill the “D” slot and not much more. We finish the 9-hole round and my boss along with a couple of others opt to play the front nine. I was asked if I wanted to join and I thought why not - it was that or either go back to the hotel and be bored. Mind you, I was almost illiterate when it came to what’s in the bag. After the first couple of holes, the best player leans over and says, “If you want to play off my tee shot that is okay” as we were playing stroke play.. I tell him that I want to play my tee and he tells me to use the 3 wood as it will get the ball airborne easier (1st lesson). I am off and running. At the end of the round, my counterpart from a sister facility looks at me and says, “You’ve learned more in nine holes than most will in a lifetime.” I opted to "retire" while on top, until 2016... Fast forward to 2016 and while I remember the round, golf is not a table item as I am into riding motorcycles. That changes in June that year as I get hit by a car that results in my left foot being degloved and I wind up as a trans-metatarsal amputee (no toes on the left foot, grafted skin from my left thigh to cover the wound). I tell folks I can only count to fifteen these days. After learning to walk, I need a new hobby and our church men’s group is starting a once a month super-ball scramble. I'm asked to join and I still have those old “real wood” Spalding woods, MacGregor blades and Spalding putter from the set gifted to me in the late 90’s. My son and I tag along and the rest is history. I get the golf bug and pick some newer “used” clubs, this time a full set of Tommy Armour 845s Silver Scots (pat pend). Likewise I pick a TaylorMade R580 driver and fairway woods and start practicing in earnest, learning to get the weight forward in a way that my rebuilt foot does not hurt too much. It has been a journey of first times, like when I got that first birdie, broke 100, broke 90, got to 80 (still haven’t broken it), had as few as 29 putts, holed out from off the green - several times. The biggest joy is that my bride of 22 years has joined me from time to time (her game is no where as serious - she will tee off, pick the ball up and then drop on the green to putt out - very simple game that does not need wedges or approach play)... a 7 yr old grandson who lives to play the game and his dad who is my regular golf partner (Yes, that's him dragging his plastic clubs a 4yrs old as my avatar). As noted my current game has me bouncing between 13 and 15 handicap. I have learned the value of up and down for par - hence my wedge game has been a key focus point in my daily drills at home. That is why I am super stoked about the Indi Golf wedge test! The Personal Questions What region do you play out of? As noted I live in Eastern, NC and have access to a variety of course conditions from sandy soil to hard pan to mucky sod. That’s just on the one primary course I play, which is where the majority of my testing will likely happen. How long have you been golfing? Just over six years since I picked up the game to help rehab my foot and to have a way to be outside much like I was when riding bikes. The rehab was to help teach my body to increase stability in that foot as well. What kind of golfer are you? Pretty well self-taught through countless on-line YouTube videos, getting a couple of impromptu lessons from the course pros, a lot of from works such as Hogan’s Five Lessons to Nicklaus’ Golf My Way to current golf writers. I am an all weather golfer so its a year-round thing (which is pretty well afforded here in Eastern NC) where playing in the cold may mean waiting for the greens to thaw, in the heat (lots of water intake)…it does not matter which means I am looking forward to see how these wedges spin, spin, spin in the varied climate and topography they will see. With a handicap that hovers in the 13-15 range, I “average” around 28% GIR. This means I do a lot of up-and-down work to try to save par, but also know that bogie is a real possibility. When it comes to wedges, they are my lifeblood around the green. I live for moments like this.... The Golf Questions How do you want to test this product? In as many and varied situations as possible. I want to see how these work when there is a carry over a greenside bunker with a short side pin. How they work when the ground is soggy and the ball is partially plugged (and there are no preferred lies). When the grass is deeper and we are chopping out. Of course in the sand - fluffy to supersaturated post rainfall sand…. What are your plans for the review and comparisons? I will be doing initial testing here at home in my backyard as I have three “pins” set up to where I can hit anywhere from 5 to 35 yd shots in varied grass conditions. This is something I work on several times a week. Likewise at the course for easy pitches onto the putting green and on course testing - my plan there is to take out several longer clubs and run double wedges (the Indi’s and my current go to, Cleveland CBX’s). "Yes, I am a Pirate (ECU that is). 200 years too late. The cannons don't thunder....." (Jimmy Buffet moment there) I don’t have ready access to a launch monitor bay, so I will need to be investing in a personal launch monitor over the course of this test to get some spin numbers that are more that just "I think it spins more!". What will make this product stay with you after testing? Accuracy, predictability and playability. I am looking for wedges that will hit and hold even when the greens are firm. I want to know that a ½ or ¾ swing with the 54 will land at a given distance day in and day out (whether its on line or not is a different story (user error?)) IF these can do that, they will be my number 1 wedges for the foreseeable future. Also in the long term, I want to see how they hold up, does the spin go away quickly? Why are you excited about testing this product? I love playing what everyone else isn’t. When I happened onto Rick Shiels review of these wedges (YoutTube link), I thought that would be a cool wedge to try. So when MGS announced, I put my hat into the ring. This is my first test for the community and and excited to see if I can shed some light that will help others in their search for the better wedge for their game. What do you know about the product already? Only what I saw in Shiels’ video: They look impressive. What are your expectations? While "To be impressed" and "To be inspired" are pat answers, I am really looking to see if these offer the feel, touch, precision that is needed for wedge play to effectively lower my score by giving better up-and-downs when short of the green, accurate approaches when on 5’s to make GIR, to hit the number consistently. Oh yes, to see that ball hit past the flag and then 180 back into the cup...yes, gotta make the ball spin! Virtual Fitting Last Thursday while on a Dairy Queen run with the missus and the grandkids, I get a call from Zane at Indi about doing the virtual fitting. That was quick as I had sent my completed questionnaire along with a supplemental email to them the evening before. Good thing - I'm East coast, they're West coast so the 3hr time differential paid off. We get to talking about my game in a little more detail and I tell him about seeing Shiels' video. Long story short after a couple of clarifications we come up with the following: 50deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce w/Recoil F3 Regular 820 graphite shaft and conforming grooves, standard lie. 54deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs same as the 50. 58deg FLX S grind w/10deg bounce balance of specs as the 50 and 54. As I play composite shafts through the bag (except the putter), we agreed the Recoil shafts would be a good fit. Told him I really like the Recoils and have a couple of old Eye 2's that are fitted with them. Hmmmm - maybe an Eye 2 eye comparison as part of the test? Going to be fun! Unboxing/First Impressions Today (Aug 2nd) was delivery day....whoo hoo. Was in the backyard when I saw the truck.... Met the driver in the front yard and with glee took the package as smooth as a wedge gliding under a ball that is riding the fairway carpet.... I have to admit I was slightly disappointed that it was not a guitar case like Rick Shiels got when his arrived, oh well I am not a YouTube celeb....still when I opened the package the clubs were sealed in a singular bag, the heads shrink sealed and covered with bubble wrap. The goodies included a neat tee shirt, hat, coozie, divot tool.... Enough on the goodies, which are kewl. The clubs themselves are flawless in terms of how they look. No signs of excess glue from the assembly, the Golf Pride MC4 "midsize" grips are straight and true (and fit pretty well in the old hands as well)... Dying to try them out as I was curious how they would interact with my swing. Pulled the shrink off the 54deg and hit a few easy pitches in the backyard. The first thing I notice is that they are "lighter" in feel than my current wedges - Cleveland CBX's. It was not what I was expecting as they are very "Vokey" in appearance, so I was anticipated the heft that I tend to associate with them. It just means they will take a little getting used to. Speaking of "Vokey", these sit behind the ball in a very "Vokey" manner - inspiring confidence! I spent a few moments introducing the old wedges to the new wedges before we (my son and grandson) were off to play a quick 18 today.... So first impressions are that these are really well built wedges that I am going to look forward to testing. Much more to come, hopefully a few very spinny shots! Till later, Willie T FIRST IMPRESSIONS (con’t) Indi states they are the “kings of spin” and I can say these clubs scream “we’ll be your spin doctor!” As one who has never really been a spinner of the ball (talking the kind of spin that sends the ball back down the green on a tear), I am excited to see if they spin to the point that it is a confident stop and check no matter the green conditions. For comparison, the CBX’s being somewhat worn don’t check and hold so this should be a big differentiator. We’ll see. I do want to spend a moment on the grips, I don’t recall if I specified Mid-size grips or not, but the wedges came with Golf Price MCC4’s. I have played midsize in the past but had recently been in a standard size grip mode so they will take/took a little getting used to. OVERALL Rating (19 of 20) Aesthetics (8 out of 10) For me, looks wise, the clubs exude class from top to bottom! I love it when clubs are understated and look purposeful. These wedges deliver that look and then some. My initial thoughts were that the full face grooves would be somewhat distracting. The opposite was/is true as they are actually very pleasing to my eye. I found that the vertical edge of the grooves (hosel side) made a great reference to help “center” the ball on the face. I found that I could have the inside edge of the ball along the vertical edge and would be pretty well centered. Speaking of the face, it is similar in size to the CBX’s and sits very well behind the ball. The wedges each have the same degree of bounce (10 for the FLX S’s) and that makes for a consistent feel across all when engaging the bounce. It helped in my learning curve on how the wedges would react - as they all bounced the same. The sole of the FLX wedges remind me of my old Vokey Design 254-10 Sand Wedge that I still love to hit. Conversely as seen in the “get to know” wedge pictures of all the wedges you can see the marked difference in the soles of the Cleveland CBX’s and the Indi’s. Mine are fitted with Recoil shafts as I play composite shafts in my irons. An added bonus is that I am already familiar with Recoils as I outfitted a couple of my old Eye2’s with an earlier version and love them. A pretty club is one thing, but if it sounds harsh, stings like an angry bee on miss hits or refuses to cooperate, it is nothing more than a good corner ornament testimony to what might have been! What about these Indi wedges? Are they another pretty face or something better like good looks that delivers, kinda like Susan Tedeschi and her mad guitar/vocal skills. First swing impressions - the ball pops off the face with a smooth crispness I never had with the CBX’s. Even slightly off center hits are quite pleasing to the ear. It is a sound that inspires my new favorite word for these wedges, confidence. It’s like when you strike the ball, the sound lets you know it’s not a flier but much rather a ball headed to your target point. You hear that crispness - from the rough, from the fairway, from the sand. Overall rating (8 out of 10) THE NUMBERS (8 out of 10) I really wanted to get on a Trackman or similar device but the closest place that had one available to “rent” was over an hour and half away (each way) and required a minimum of a month’s membership and you could only book one hour time slots. As such I did not get any hard numbers on whether Indi wedges more than what the CBX’s do on the machine. HOWEVER, I did put them through several rounds of side by side comparison of current wedges (old CBX 50-54-58 as well as new CBX 52-56-60 (had literally just updated when I learned I was to be a tester) vs the Indi’s. So let’s break down my observations: Accuracy - In the course of testing I kept seeing the same thing over and over - consistently accurate! It did not matter if it was the 50, 54 or 58. More than once the ball flight looked to be a certain hole out off the green! Did not get one, but I got close several times. The closest I came was when I hit the 54 to 3” of the hole from 30yds out. Ball checked to 18” past the hole! A big plus when working on those ups and downs, pretty much my green side game. Distance - This was a big learning curve as these wedges fly! I found that I could swing easier, make solid contact and the ball was going to go where I needed it to be except farther. Most wedge shots are not full swings and I found that these wedges were easy to learn how to swing to get a given distance. It took practice in the backyard with each wedge to given distances, but after several sessions the distances were dialing in to where I knew a given swing with a given loft gave an accurate distance. That is that confidence thing again! Trajectory - Lower overall flight. I found shot trajectories are more controlled with these over the CBX’s, which are meant to help folks get their wedge shots in the air. I really love how a simple adjustment of ball placement took the ball from high arching to low and spinny. And to see the ball really grab on those low ones to release and gently roll out on hard greens, just meant one thing - more confidence. Control and Workability - I am putting these together as after the first day or so, I was seeing that I could flight it low, high, open the face - do whatever with confidence that the ball was going within 95% of where I was planning. There were the occasional miscues, total operator error, as the clubs can only do what is asked. I found that these work well in sand without opening the face too much as the clubs inspired me to just hit the ball. Best example - par 3 12 at my home course I am in the greenside bunker. Set up with the 54 and figure I want to carry about 5 yds onto the green and let it release to the flag. Ball comes out, about 3’ high and spinning up a storm. It lands, checks and rolls to 3’ from the hole for an easy par. One thing I have not noted was that I used the same ball through the main portions of the test, i.e. Pro V-1. I did do a few holes with others (Callaway Super Soft, Maxfli Tour, Titleist Tour Speed, WIlson Duo Soft, Bridgestone e12, etc.), and found that the clubs worked well with those as well. Overall rating (8 out of 10) ON-COURSE (17 out of 20) With a total of 10 rounds including several where I focused on side by side comparisons with the CBX’s and one where I had just the wedges, a 7i, 5i and 5w plus almost daily workouts in the backyard, I developed a comfort with these wedges to where they became more and more predictable day in day out. In the vlog I did, I talk about what I am seeing and how the wedges are working. Varied Lies drill: I played these from tight lies (can you say almost hard pan), hard pan, fairway fluff, slight rough (2”), fluff sand and wet sand, wet early morning grass and mud! How did they perform in the given lies? From the tightest of lies, hard pan, the club picked the ball and sent it on its way. At the opposite end, the rough posed no real problems as the club would slice through and free the ball. Fairway lies were a dream. To push the clubs, I even tried to figure ways to hit from awkward spots like the side of a pond in tall weeds and gravelly soil (insert photo). That is not to say every shot was good or great, there were some bad shots. However it was always “operator error” from me overthinking and not being confident in the process. Stripped down bag drill: The round with the 5w, 5i, 7i and Indi wedges proved that you don’t need a full bag to shoot a decent round. The 50 worked well on the longer approaches while the 54 and 58 took care of greenside. No GIRs drill: The toughest test was playing to not have any GIR, even hitting par 3’s short. This put a wedge in play on all 18 holes. A hard test that went against scoring low but also built confidence in each club that proved that you can rely on these clubs on getting up and down when you do miss a green in regulation. 3 Wedge drill: This was one of the early tests. I set up the bag with 3 sets of wedges (CBX - 50, 54, 58 (old - no sharpie dot), CBX - 52, 56, 60 (newer - red sharpie dot), INDI - 50, 54-58 (green sharpie dot). All had new ProV1's assigned (5 w/red dots, 5 w/green dots and 5 plain). The drill was simple - if it was greenside up and down, I would hit five shots each with the 58's & 60 and eval proximity to hole (target), longer wedge in would be the 50's & 52 - same goal, at the beach - the 54's & 56. End result - the INDI's were the most accurate as they checked and stopped more readily, followed by the new CBX's (which did not hold as well as the INDI's) and lastly the old familiar CBX's that had substantially more roll out (which I had grown to accept and had learned to hit and allow for such). THIS IS DEFINITELY A SLOW COURSE TIME DRILL! The big downside in my testing was getting used to the turf interaction as opposed to how the CBX's had performed. I that in the first few holes where I was playing both the CBX’s and the Indi’s, the same angle of attack made for some chunky Indi’s. Yet, once I spent time just working on feeling the bounce the chunky monkey beaver tails went away. While my overall scores remained consistent, I attribute much of that to the deliberate placing of myself in precarious shots that do not lend to better scores. I wanted to work on being in trouble, not GIR - the things the average Joe or Jen golfer sees. These wedges inspire you to take on those situations and do well! INDI Golf is one of the new kids in town and I was delighted to be part of this test. As a newbie tester with a set of virtually fitted wedges, the guys at INDI did well. So much so, I am seriously considering trying one of their putters this time on my dime. I love that companies such as INDI are making quality gear that allows the golfer who is not necessarily brand fixated have access to quality gear at competitive pricing. I will be curious to see what INDI does next - will they go grind crazy like the big guys or stick to their model. I want to reinforce my thoughts that I love the full face grooves, the simplified sole design, great shaft options - those may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it provides a smooth brew for this golfer! Overall rating (17 out of 20) THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE INBETWEEN (18 out of 20) The good starts with how I keep saying “confidence” or a derivative of that word, but that is what I want to write home and tell everyone about in these wedges. In the course of testing I went from these are fun to I want to go pin hunting when wedging in! I go back to the wedges all having the same sole design and bounce to promote consistency across the group. I am reminded that this concept is something one may see with one length irons. Anyway, they really work for me in this area. This led me to seeing a predictable consistency in shot shape, distance and overall accuracy. It became a matter of what is the distance to the pin, okay that is ___ wedge. ½, ¾ shots were super predictable as well. I found the wedges very balanced almost to where I could not feel the head weight when swining. Others in the test noted the opposite that the clubs felt heavy. Its a matter of what your used to. The inbetween probably lies in two areas. How much will spin decrease and will it be a rapid drop off or a slight taper over time. This remains to be seen. The second is purely overall aesthics, while I love them, I am thinking some may be put off by the lack of glitz and glamor or more importantly big name notoriety, as they look like something that one might see at a box store. The only bad that I could see is the "lack of grind options". While these are two grind deal, one can easliy adjust their game and have good success. The FLX grind really is a do all workhorse. Grantled I was used to the CBX’s and their grind, very similar to the ATK’s, I believe INDI onto being wonderfully simple - pickers (small divots) just need to go FLX, digging for dollars divots just go ATK. Overall rating (18 out of 20) PLAY IT or TRADE IT (20 out of 20) Play - play - play. These wedges offer a level of comfort and confidence that I have never really enjoyed with other wedges, the closest being the old Vokey Design 254-10. Given that I am looking forward to seeing how they do this winter as I play year round here in Eastern NC. It will be good to report on how wedge life happens when the elements are less than optimal. Overall rating (20 out of 20) CONCLUSION Again I want to thank the MGS mods for selecting me to be part of this test. To be a newbie who gets to test these wedges was an honor and privilege. My overall consensus of the INDI wedges is that they do deliver the spin to stop the ball on the green, they cut through the rough like a sling blade to lift the ball to freedom and are perfect to deliver balls from the beach! For someone looking for a great wedge that is not flashy, that doesn’t bury you in a myriad of sole grinds, that is super reasonable in cost - the guys at INDI can be that one stop shop. FINAL SCORE (90 out of a 100) Edited September 14, 2023 by Willie T grammar GolfSpy_APH, jnz12, BallsLeon and 17 others 16 3 1 Quote WITB? G400 SFT w/Aldila NXT GEN NVS 55 Aflex ; G410 3w; G400 3h(19), 4h(22), 5h(26) - stock Ping Alta CB R-Flex; SMS 6i, 7i - KBS TourLIte 95 R-Flex; Maltby TS1 8i-9i-PW w/Apollo Acculite 85 R flex; INDI FLX-S wedges (50, 54, 58) w/Recoil graphite shafts -R-Flex and AI-One 7T BD Milled (aka Millie), ball choice tends to be Pro-V1 or simliar 3pc urethane balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 Who wants to be the king of spin? Gazhass, OdinSnipes414, Woody83 and 3 others 2 2 1 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations testers! I'm really excited to see how these wedges work out for all of you. OdinSnipes414, Willie T, GregB135 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonvdwesthuizen Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats guys, looking forward to the reviews! Woody83, Willie T, OdinSnipes414 and 1 other 4 Quote MY WITB list Bag: Adidas 7 way stand bag Cart: Model 3 Driver: Stealth 9° FW: D9 Fairway Hybrid: Launcher Irons: D9 4 - PW Wedges: S159 - 50deg, 54deg, 60deg Putter: Kia Ma Daytona Ball: Soft Response, AD333, Supersoft 2024 Tester - S159 wedges. See my review here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx-Ping Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations to those selected. Looking forward to your reviews. Woody83, OdinSnipes414, Nunfa0 and 1 other 4 Quote Hit them Long and Straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats to the testers! Now the fun begins! I want to see who can rip the ball back the furthest, video or it didn’t happen sirchunksalot, ParFore74x, Willie T and 4 others 3 4 Quote WITB: D: GT-2 10° w/ GD Tour AD-UB 6s 3W: GT-3 15 Tensei Black 75 X 3h: G430 18° Tour 2.0/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 4i: Pro 225 with Project X io 6.0 6i-PW: Pro 225 with Recoil 110 f4 50,54° & 58°: SM-10 P: Link.1 Ball: Pro Plus Drip Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParFore74x Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations testers!! Let’s see that ball spin!! sirchunksalot, OdinSnipes414, GolfSpy_BEN and 3 others 6 Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° & 58° w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Official Tester Review Nitron push cart Unofficial review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeast87 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Eyyyyy, nice one lads. Looking forward to seeing your reviews on these tasty wedges! Willie T, OdinSnipes414, Nunfa0 and 1 other 4 Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats testers! Really excited about this one!!! sirchunksalot, Willie T, Nunfa0 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-PW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Haywood Signature Raw Wedges (50 / 54 / 58) Putter: L.A.B. DF3 (aka "Chewie") Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Reviews: L.A.B. DF3 Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunfa0 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Again, I am shocked and excited that I have been chosen to put these beauties to the test Can't wait to see if they truly spin me right round!! RohanVster, Hobert, Woody83 and 6 others 9 Quote In my cart Bag: Driver: King F9 9° - LH - Atmos Blue TS 6 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue 7 Reg Z U85 2 Iron Irons: T200 4 Iron AMT White S300 T100S - LH - 3-48* - AMT White S300 Wedges: Indi FLX- LH - 52° 56° 60° - True Temper Spinner Wedge shafts Putter: 2 Bar Hybrid Ball: Pro V1x Testing: Haywood CB/MB Combo Iron Set, 4-7 Cavity backs, 8-PW Muscle Backs, Nippon Modus Tour 115 Stiff, 2 Degrees stronger lofts. Tracked By: Follow me on Twitter @ham12_hampton and on Instagram @Nunfa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations all. Woody83, OdinSnipes414, Nunfa0 and 1 other 4 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevGolfnut61 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations testers! Cannot wait for the reviews. Willie T, Nunfa0, OdinSnipes414 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver - Callaway Paradym 10.5 4 wood - Callaway UW 17 degree 7 wood - Titleist TSR 2 Irons - Callaway Apex TCP 4-PW Wedges - 50 & 54 Callaway Jaws Wedge - 58 Callaway PM Grind Putter - Odyssey O-Works V Line Fang CH Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_KFT Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats testers! OdinSnipes414, Woody83, Willie T and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: GT3 9|Tour AD-UB 6S (testing in progress) Fairways: GT2 15 & 18|Tour AD-UB 7S (testing in progress) | Aerojet Max 7|Kai'Li White 70X Hybrid: King TEC 3H|MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW|KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM10 52.12F|56.12D|True Temper Vokey Wedge Flex Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour & ProV1 #LeftyGang Titleist GT Long Game Test (Link Here) Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats guys. I hope you have as much fun with these as I am. Woody83, sirchunksalot, OdinSnipes414 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats all! Now remember to listen to Indie music on the course to set the mood. OdinSnipes414, sirchunksalot, Nunfa0 and 3 others 4 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS TD Cat 4 60g 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter:Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: Prime 4.0 Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize Glove: My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccostel18 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations! Give them a good workout! OdinSnipes414, RohanVster, Woody83 and 1 other 4 Quote PING G430 LST 10.5 driver Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3w PING G400 5w Cobra Speedzone 3h Srixon z585 irons 5-AW Cleveland CBX2 52 Cleveland CBX 56 PING Heppler Anser 2 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Willie T Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 First time tester….super stoked to see how these compare to my “stock” wedges and if they crown me “king of spin” in my small golf circle! GolfSpy_APH, OdinSnipes414, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and 7 others 7 3 Quote WITB? G400 SFT w/Aldila NXT GEN NVS 55 Aflex ; G410 3w; G400 3h(19), 4h(22), 5h(26) - stock Ping Alta CB R-Flex; SMS 6i, 7i - KBS TourLIte 95 R-Flex; Maltby TS1 8i-9i-PW w/Apollo Acculite 85 R flex; INDI FLX-S wedges (50, 54, 58) w/Recoil graphite shafts -R-Flex and AI-One 7T BD Milled (aka Millie), ball choice tends to be Pro-V1 or simliar 3pc urethane balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkj427 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats. to this group of testers. After being on the Indi call last week, really looking forward to the comments and reviews of all chosen. Nunfa0, RohanVster, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver & Fairway: Titleist GT2 8 degree - Ventus TR Red & TSR3 15 - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Hybrid: TSR2 21 degree - Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Irons: Titleist T200 3G (4) & T150 - (5-G) - Modus 105 Wedges: Vokey SM9 54, and 58 Putter: Cameron Phantom X 5 Ball: Pro V1 & Maxfli Tour Link to Motocaddy M7 w/Remote Trolley & Bag Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Solid Bogey Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats… Excited and terrified that you testers will be able to spin these wedges farther backwards than I can hit a wedge forward. OdinSnipes414, RohanVster and Nunfa0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeys ov Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 This one will be fun! Can't wait to hear the feedback! Nunfa0 and OdinSnipes414 2 Quote TSi3 9° Tour AD ub 7 TX Callaway XR 3wood UST 85g X Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 3I DG TI X100 Cobra King Tour 4-P DG TI X100 50° RTX4 DG X100 54°, 58° RTX Zipcore DG TI S400 Ping Oslo H Chrome soft X LS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats testers!!! Lets see who gets the sauciest tour sauce!! Nunfa0, OdinSnipes414 and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScramblinMan Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congratulations testers. Looking forward to your upcoming feedback about the characteristics of these wedges… Nunfa0, sirchunksalot and OdinSnipes414 3 Quote Jaws 58 wedge Paradym 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, P, AW, GW Paradym 3wood, 5wood, 7wood and Driver White hot OG Seven putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EugeGall Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats to the lucky 4 OdinSnipes414 and Nunfa0 2 Quote Paradym 10.5 Project X Hzrdus Silver Paradym 3HL Project X Hzrdus Silver Paradym Heavenwood Project X Hzrdus Silver Paradym 4H Project X Hzrdus Silver EXS Pro Forged 5-PW True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 Stiff Glide 4.0 50/SS Nippon NS Pro Modus3 Tour 105 X Stiff (8i shaft) Glide 4.0 54/SS Nippon NS Pro Modus3 Tour 105 X Stiff (8i shaft) Glide 4.0 58/SS Nippon NS Pro Modus3 Tour 105 X Stiff (8i shaft) Stroke Lab Seven with Kotahi grip SD-01 ball, X5 Watch, 8.0+ MGS Galway Bay Rain Gear Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60769-galway-bay-rain-gear-2023-forum-review/ MGS Star Grip Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63328-star-grips-2024-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCell24 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats on being selected. If Ya'll don't like them, you can send them my way after testing is done. Spin it up!! OdinSnipes414 and Nunfa0 2 Quote Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats all! Looking forward to reading your thoughts on these. sirchunksalot, OdinSnipes414 and Nunfa0 3 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h D200 6i-GW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Congrats, y’all! I’m curious to see if these will end up Indi bag when it’s all said and done. sirchunksalot, OdinSnipes414 and Nunfa0 1 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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