After Hours Spy Saloon

[TSauer]

1 hour ago, DoubleBogeyDad said:

Seinfeld and The Office. Could never get on board for either one.

[GolfSpy_BEN]

RIP Jimmy

A gifted songwriter and performer. People either love his music or hate it, but for my money, beyond the parody, his music reminds me of summers and hot afternoons on a boat somewhere. While I can do without the beach, I do love the ocean and a Jimmy Buffett song can conjure the warm salty air on a cold winter night. Rest Easy Jimmy…

[chisag]

... This is why @CFreddie should walk as we can see, him driving a cart in Georgia is what we call a hazard!


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwoGNuRgNI1/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

[chisag]

... I like to post my low rounds but there are others too boring to share. Here is an example. Shot a 74 yesterday with 3 bogies and 1 birdie.  The score is a little deceptive as I rolled in several 10 footers to save par. The only noteworthy accomplishment is all 3 bogies happened on par 3's. I missed all 4 greens on the par 3's and had a 12 footer on the 3rd that I rolled in or I would have bogied every par 3. On the plus side my driver was almost automatic and that is always a plus. 

... Just hit a really fat shot on the first par 3. Knowing better I had a perfect yardage to a front pin on the 2nd par 3 but caught it a hair on the toe, catching the false front and rolling back into a sand-less bunker. Same contact with one more club would have put me 8 feet or so past the pin and if I hit it perfectly 20 feet past the pin so a silly mental error. 3rd par 3 I tried to flight down a Pw and pulled it a little catching the edge of a bowl like green and rolling down into the only thick rough because it was surrounding the drain where water accumulates coming off the green. Another few inches and I could have taken a drop but truthfully after that tee shot, I didn't deserve a drop. Last par 3 I hit another barely fat shot that caught the front fringe and rolled back down the hill. So 4 bad swings, 2 mental errors and 3 bogies. See? Not really worth posting. 

[chisag]

3 hours ago, Ben Joest said:

People either love his music or hate it

 

... I don't fall into either camp. I mean who doesn't like Margaritaville when it comes on the radio? But this is the only Buffet tune I ever had on a playlist. I have always been a sucker for rock with a string section. 


 

 

[RockerFCC]

30 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I don't fall into either camp. I mean who doesn't like Margaritaville when it comes on the radio? But this is the only Buffet tune I ever had on a playlist. I have always been a sucker for rock with a string section. 


 

 

I don't get why anyone would hate Jimmy Buffet. You don't even have to like this music to appreciate what he does. Pioneer in music iMHO, great chill party music.

[funkyjudge]

51 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I don't fall into either camp. I mean who doesn't like Margaritaville when it comes on the radio? But this is the only Buffet tune I ever had on a playlist. I have always been a sucker for rock with a string section. 


 

 

I also do not fall into either the “love” or the “hate” camp when it comes to Jimmy Buffet or his music. I don’t generally turn it off when it comes on the radio, nor do I have the Jimmy Buffet channel saved as a favorite on Sirius XM. 

In one band with which performed and recorded, I was told that I would be required to sing the Jimmy Buffet vocal part in the song “It’s Five O’Clock Somewhere”, that he recorded with Alan Jackson, which I was happy to do. I’ll never forget the line, “Pour me something tall and strong; make it a hurricane before I go insane; it’s only half past twelve, but I don’t care; it’s five o’clock somewhere”.

Edited September 2, 2023 by funkyjudge

[cnosil]

18 hours ago, DoubleBogeyDad said:

Seinfeld and The Office. Could never get on board for either one.

Seinfeld was okay;  never got into the Office.    My not likes that so many people love would be anything Star Trek, anything Hobbit, Game of Thrones.  

[DoubleBogeyDad]

8 hours ago, cnosil said:

Seinfeld was okay;  never got into the Office.    My not likes that so many people love would be anything Star Trek, anything Hobbit, Game of Thrones.  

I don't think we can be friends @cnosil 

[chisag]

... I had $50 in Golf Galaxy rewards Pre ordered a new MG4 58* wedge yesterday. TM has a new C Grind for tier standard bounce wedge:

"THE NEW “SBC” SOLE PROVIDES MORE VERSATILITY WITH ADDED BOUNCE AND CAMBER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOLE WITH A RELIEVED HEEL AND TRAILING EDGE. DESIGNED FOR THE PLAYERS WHO PREFER ULTIMATE VERSAATILITY WITH DIFFERENT FACE ANGLING AROUND THE GREEN.

... I like the idea of slightly more bounce at 9* instead of the 8* of bounce on my LB MG3 that has a very aggressive leading edge that can snag on a tight Bermuda lie, so the effective bounce should be higher with the ability to open the face and still have an effective low bounce. Hoping for the best of both worlds. Rory and a few other staffers said it feels a little softer and denser so that helped in my decision. Ordered it stock because I'll bend it 2* up, install a Stelfiber i95 and a ST+ Hybrid grip myself. 

[KC Golf]

7 hours ago, chisag said:

... I had $50 in Golf Galaxy rewards Pre ordered a new MG4 58* wedge yesterday. TM has a new C Grind for tier standard bounce wedge:

"THE NEW “SBC” SOLE PROVIDES MORE VERSATILITY WITH ADDED BOUNCE AND CAMBER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SOLE WITH A RELIEVED HEEL AND TRAILING EDGE. DESIGNED FOR THE PLAYERS WHO PREFER ULTIMATE VERSAATILITY WITH DIFFERENT FACE ANGLING AROUND THE GREEN.

... I like the idea of slightly more bounce at 9* instead of the 8* of bounce on my LB MG3 that has a very aggressive leading edge that can snag on a tight Bermuda lie, so the effective bounce should be higher with the ability to open the face and still have an effective low bounce. Hoping for the best of both worlds. Rory and a few other staffers said it feels a little softer and denser so that helped in my decision. Ordered it stock because I'll bend it 2* up, install a Stelfiber i95 and a ST+ Hybrid grip myself. 

Can’t wait to see it and hear if it provides Rory like results… that build sounds awesome!

[chisag]

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play, course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

[RwsGolf1]

8 minutes ago, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

Well said.  I think most times the ball is just one factor but, not the total.  I typically play Titleist but, I tried some Bridgestones recently and I like how they fly and feel too.  There is definitely a difference In how they feel off the club face.  Like you said earlier, I played the Chrome Soft for a long time.  Someone gave me a dozen PROVs and I played well that particular day and now I play them again as my go to ball.  The main thing I look for is the feel off of the putter and spin around the greens.

[KC Golf]

3 hours ago, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

I am sticking with my Z Star Diamond.  It just works. But a Pro V1 works too.

Kind of like every cheap Lager from the major brands all taste the same.  No matter how much marketing tries to convince you otherwise!

[Swood1994]

5 hours ago, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

I would agree with your outlandish statement. For me the most important qualities of a ball are feel and spin around the greens. Both of those qualities are unique to each individuals swing type and feel they are looking for. That being said… the lab results really has me intrigued about the Pro V1X Left Dash and it’s seemingly large distance advantage over other pretty commonly played models. For reference I play the Pro V1 most followed by a decent stint with the Maxfli Tour X, and this year I mixed in the Callaway CS X LS.

[GaryF]

6 hours ago, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

I settled on the QStar Tour a few years ago and this year added the 2021 Z Star.  Most balls I find I give to my wife or whoever I’m playing with unless it’s a like-new prov1 of chromesoft.  For me it comes down to feel and spin, but staying with the Srixons just gives me a lot of confidence. 

[Byrnzee]

20 hours ago, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

Totally agree with your points here. I think playing the same ball is the most important factor to remain consistent in terms of feel, spin, etc...

There's no point in agonizing over the minutia in the data especially at our level. I definitely was surprised by some of the data and took it into consideration for my own game, but I say just find a ball you like playing and go from there.

Personally, I've liked playing the Bridgestone balls because of the feel I get off of them. I've played Pro V1X's and other balls as well and liked several different options. One of the biggest surprises for me was the distance lost on the Taylormade TP5 balls as well as the exceptional performance of the Maxfli Tour balls. 

I think we can all agree that this data is extremely thorough and interesting, but should be taken with a grain of salt. As @chisag said above, there are several other factors that will impact performance more than your ball selection.

[MattWillGolf]

On 9/5/2023 at 2:55 PM, chisag said:

... I didn't wanna post this in the 2023 Golf Ball test, but I find it entertaining reading the responses from high index players, and even mid index players agonizing over a ball choice because of the data. Let me preface by saying I thinking everyone should pick one ball and play it. It just brings in an element of consistency, at least as far a the ball is concerned. But if you play Srixon Z Stars exclusively and someone gives you a dozen Maxfli Tours or Chrome Soft X LS balls, you can play them and expect very little, if any actual difference in their performance or your score. Same thing if you just like playing different balls. 

... Because even low index players will most likely not find much difference between similar balls. I have no doubts that if I did a comparison of Kirkland V3's and Maxfli Tours over several rounds on the course with a LM while I played, the Maxfli would perform marginally better. That said I played the Kirkland last week and had 7 birdies and 2 bogies for a 67. I played the Maxfli a few rounds later and shot a 75 with 4 bogies and 1 birdie and again yesterday a 72 with 2 birdies and 2 bogies. The point being my swing, play course conditions and heat/wind had much more to do with the score than which ball I played. 

... We are on a golf forum because we are all little crazy, constantly thinking and talking about equipment, so I completely understand and have no problem with a 19 index or higher and a 89mph swing right in the middle of slow/mid and having a hard time deciding whether to go with the ball that gives them 85rpm more/less spin with their driver and a 1.3 yd carry advantage but spins less on mid irons and loses a whopping 1.4 yds of carry because it spins less. Again, it's why we are here. 

... But I am gonna make the outlandish statement that of all things golf that can affect your performance and score, having the "perfect ball" is at or very near the bottom of that list. As long as you are in the right ball park, how you swing and make contact, your mental toughness and course management are all going to have a much bigger impact than a ball that an iron Byron hit 1.3 yds longer off the tee. So that choice between the ProV1x, CS X LS, Maxfli Tour X and the $70 a dozen LA Golf ball just isn't very important at all. 

Well said, sir. I generally play Kirkland Signature balls because quite simply the price. But when I run low, see my handicap and my home course, and I need a restock I will pick up a dozen balls that MGS tags as being a good value at the Dick’s Sporting Goods that’s 8 minutes from my house. The only Pro Vs I’ve ever played are ones I’ve found will looking for my ball.

[sirchunksalot]

31 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

Well said, sir. I generally play Kirkland Signature balls because quite simply the price. But when I run low, see my handicap and my home course, and I need a restock I will pick up a dozen balls that MGS tags as being a good value at the Dick’s Sporting Goods that’s 8 minutes from my house. The only Pro Vs I’ve ever played are ones I’ve found will looking for my ball.

I've actually got a sleeve if Pro V1X a buddy of mine gave me in my bag. Like you, I can say I've never played a brand new one. I just haven't thought about the sleeve much since I have played the MaxFli Tour balls for a while. Reading your post reminded me of those and I think once I can play again, I'll break those out as a celebration. 

[chisag]

... So Brave Sir @Jnoble89 made a bet the Packers would have a better record than the Bears this season, tie goes to Bears for 1 dozen Kirkland V3's. Evidently feeling all yellow and green he increased his bet to include if the Bears win the NFC North, he would send 2 dozen V3's. (Stranger things have happened but sadly, probably a safe bet) So opening game I asked if he wanted to bet another dozen Maxfli Tour's on the outcome after he proclaimed an easy victory with some high school wide receivers playing due to injury and a dumb a$$ GM.Oh My did the excuses come flying out of Wisconsin! He is 100% confident but turned down the bet because: 



 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

7 minutes ago, chisag said:

... So Brave Sir @Jnoble89 made a bet the Packers would have a better record than the Bears this season, tie goes to Bears for 1 dozen Kirkland V3's. Evidently feeling all yellow and green he increased his bet to include if the Bears win the NFC North, he would send 2 dozen V3's. (Stranger things have happened but sadly, probably a safe bet) So opening game I asked if he wanted to bet another dozen Maxfli Tour's on the outcome after he proclaimed an easy victory with some high school wide receivers playing due to injury and a dumb a$$ GM.Oh My did the excuses come flying out of Wisconsin! He is 100% confident but turned down the bet because: 



 

Lol bringing the taunting to another thread, I see. Alright, even though I’m not much for a gambling man I’ll take your bet. I’ll take a dozen of the X after tomorrow’s game is completed. Yes, the Bears added DJ Moore…it’s too bad they don’t have a QB to throw the ball to him

[chisag]

16 minutes ago, Jnoble89 said:

Lol bringing the taunting to another thread, I see. Alright, even though I’m not much for a gambling man I’ll take your bet. I’ll take a dozen of the X after tomorrow’s game is completed. Yes, the Bears added DJ Moore…it’s too bad they don’t have a QB to throw the ball to him

 

... Bears don't have a QB!?!? What the ... I mean if you consider ... just sayin' 2nd year under Getsy so we can ... all pre season against the Bears defense he looked ... At OS Fields was pretty darned ... OK, fair enough, DJ Moore doesn't have a QB. But neither do the Packers.  

(Fwiw, I'm not a Gamblin; kinda guy either but the Packers have about 30 years to answer for so I will not only be kicking, but jumping up and landing with both feet when they are down)  

[GolfSpy_KFT]

How has Fields fared against GB to this point? Just poking the bear….would love to see them competitive for the sake of the division. How mad will you be if/when Love is actually good?

As far as Fields success at OH, tell me the last time a recent QB from there had ANY significant success in the league? If we are gonna talk preseason, no QB was better arguably than JLove. But I don’t put weight into preseason

[DoubleBogeyDad]

Go Pack Go! On a separate note, no golf today, but the girl's sandbox is done.

[Shapotomous]

2 minutes ago, DoubleBogeyDad said:

Go Pack Go! On a separate note, no golf today, but the girl's sandbox is done.

Girls sandbox......or

Practice bunker?!?!

[chisag]

19 minutes ago, Jnoble89 said:

How has Fields fared against GB to this point? Just poking the bear….would love to see them competitive for the sake of the division. How mad will you be if/when Love is actually good?

As far as Fields success at OH, tell me the last time a recent QB from there had ANY significant success in the league? If we are gonna talk preseason, no QB was better arguably than JLove. But I don’t put weight into preseason

 

... I expect Love to be good, just not great. If GB has 3 great QB's in succession I imagine NFC North fans from all teams will storm Lambeau field with torches and pitchforks. And you confuse me with someone else as I have zero confidence in Fields. Zero. He can win games with his feet but will lose more with his head. I imagine this is what he is thinking if you ask him what his hot read is from the pocket:

[DoubleBogeyDad]

@Shapotomous Hmmm....the placement is not great for a practice bunker, but I do have a little extra sand

[sirchunksalot]

36 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

Girls sandbox......or

Practice bunker?!?!

I had thought the same thing.

[Shapotomous]

42 minutes ago, DoubleBogeyDad said:

@Shapotomous Hmmm....the placement is not great for a practice bunker, but I do have a little extra sand

I'd move the sandbox...

The ladder is in the way, she might hit her head on it ya know! 

[KC Golf]

5 hours ago, DoubleBogeyDad said:

@Shapotomous Hmmm....the placement is not great for a practice bunker, but I do have a little extra sand

If you move the sand box towards the circular net swing, you can definitely practice short sided bunker shots!  

Well at least when your daughter has nap time…