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Working on short putts and when I’m focused on specific part of the cup my aiming becomes more accurate.  On flat putts I have a tendency to be left biases and will look at the entry or exit points on the left part of the cup  My preference is to stroke at inside left edge with square/slightly open face (less than 2 degrees if possible)   I’m gong to test this out with Laser and see if there is a SAM lab locally I can get tested 

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I went to the range today with the intention of working on one of the drills from the Strike Plan where you try to intentionally hit a toe shot and then a heel shot to develop feel for each in order t

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On 10/13/2020 at 11:52 AM, Haro said:

But for the break that runs away I have to see “two lines” one from the cup to the apex and another from the ball to apex and kind of join those two lines

Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ☺️☺️).

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On 10/13/2020 at 6:53 PM, Chip Strokes said:

and hopefully that carry number is somewhere in the 345-350 range. 

Yowzers! I was looking for the "shocked" emoji for the original post 😉

That's impressive distance - good luck!!

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Spent some time with the planemate going through a couple of the protocols with the short band.

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2 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ☺️☺️).

I read it’s call the “fall line” too. For what ever reason I am not as comfortable with the right to left break. I walk a bit more to read my line and use more of a straight line aimpoint type strategy. 

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I didn’t practice yesterday - through wedge and putter in the trunk to chip and putt after work before a meeting - it was sunny most of the day, clear skies at night, only a 20 percent chance of rain.

Guess what it did from 4-5?

So I used that time to review Rapsodo launch angle data. An observation popped out - while the distance and accuracy of my irons click at a certain launch angle my longest drives are always when I launch it high - over 15 degrees with 17 being the ideal.

Interesting


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Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ).

I don’t think that is what@Haro is describing. The method you describe still has a single aimpoint that happens to be on the zero break or fall line. Unlike aimpoint the point you are aiming to is on that line. This is what Geoff magnum taught and was the method used in Vector Green Reading. Aimpoint users a point left or right of the hole that generally doesn’t like on the fall line. Subtle differences but different approaches.
@Haro is indicating he wants to see curved lines and does on right to left putts. On left to right he has to visualize 2 straight lines; one that goes from ball to apex and one that goes from apex to hole. These are two different green reading approaches.

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Yesterday I took my 52 outside and hit some wedge shots.  My physical therapist gave me some rotational drills and stretches to help get back to playing and it felt so good.  Hoping to play 9 holes friday!

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Went to the range for the first time in awhile! I hit a large and small bucket, working on some drills my coach gave me last time. As usual, once I started getting tired, I started coming over-the-top with the right shoulder. Ugh. I was able to sit for a bit, get something to drink, and then regroup. I finished well, and cut down on swing thoughts. I’d like to hit one more bucket this week using just my wedges. I need to hit more greens with my approaches, and full wedges are hurting me the most.

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13 hours ago, PMookie said:

Went to the range for the first time in awhile! I hit a large and small bucket, working on some drills my coach gave me last time. As usual, once I started getting tired, I started coming over-the-top with the right shoulder. Ugh. I was able to sit for a bit, get something to drink, and then regroup. I finished well, and cut down on swing thoughts. I’d like to hit one more bucket this week using just my wedges. I need to hit more greens with my approaches, and full wedges are hurting me the most.

I have always felt it is best to severely limit swing thoughts. 

Maybe have one set up thought and once that is done then only have one swing thought....then SWING! 

I see a lot of players hovering over the ball at address for what seems like an eternity and you can just about see the wheels turning as they go through 5 thoughts before they spasm into a movement merging all those things into what is supposed to be a swing.

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Been re-reading the putting stroke information that my putting coach has sent me. Going to start get a fresh start and check my vision and setup; always good to periodically check the fundamentals. Since I have been focusing on speed recently I want to make sure I haven’t gotten to far away from having a good setup.

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Haven't touched a club in a few weeks due to everything going on, so I shot over to the range at the local muni at lunchtime. Unfortunately it was mats only due to all the heavy rain we've had recently so I mostly worked on driver and hitting fairway woods off the deck. The driver's coming around to a better, straighter flight with what feels like a shorter backswing, just getting adjusted to it. My misses are all left lately which is definitely different for me. Also hit some way off the heel which makes me think I'm lunging at the ball again.

Still, after a few weeks layoff I wasn't mad to see some decent ballflight off of the woods at all. 

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Got back to the range today and had a better go of it. Worked on getting the proper stance, then taking the club back more on plane, and drills for keeping the “butt on the wall”. Worked well. 

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My wife went to play with the Ladies at another course in town today, so I went to our course to practice.  I noticed right away that the practice green that had pins last weekend for the Men's Club tournament was empty of pins... Gone.  That sucks!  

Went into the pro shop and got a bucket of balls; spent about 20 minutes pitching onto the pitching green with green success.  Motion felt good; ball flew like I wanted.  Then headed to the range.  WTF?!  The mats are out for the winter; earliest I remember them putting them out.  I hit great shots off the mat and will until spring when they remove them; then back to fat shots!!  

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more driver work with my coach today. we’re getting closer to the numbers i should be seeing. the right equipment plus some changes to how i’m swinging the club have things moving in the right direction.  

tried a new driver today: TM Sim 8* set to 8.25 or 8.5, 43.5” Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited 70g Xflex

i’m thinking of starting a thread about my “journey” to get myself a driver, because it’s come a long way in a short time. i’ll get it all consolidated if there’s any interest 

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6 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

more driver work with my coach today. we’re getting closer to the numbers i should be seeing. the right equipment plus some changes to how i’m swinging the club have things moving in the right direction.  

tried a new driver today: TM Sim 8* set to 8.25 or 8.5, 43.5” Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited 70g Xflex

i’m thinking of starting a thread about my “journey” to get myself a driver, because it’s come a long way in a short time. i’ll get it all consolidated if there’s any interest 

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Would love to hear about your driver journey even if your swing speed and fitting are in another planet from mine. Crazy your swing speed is 120 with a driver about 2 inches short of standard.

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2 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Would love to hear about your driver journey even if your swing speed and fitting are in another planet from mine. Crazy your swing speed is 120 with a driver about 2 inches short of standard.

thanks for the input!

you can take this with a grain of salt, as i did, but in reality that’s 124/125. my coach says his monitor is due for a bit of a recalibration. 

one of the things we’ve worked on is establishing a “game speed” for me. right now that’s sitting in the low 120s. above that i lose control of the club face. 

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On 10/21/2020 at 8:36 AM, Shapotomous said:

I see a lot of players hovering over the ball at address for what seems like an eternity and you can just about see the wheels turning as they go through 5 thoughts before they spasm into a movement merging all those things into what is supposed to be a swing.

You been spying on me? 🤣

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59 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

thanks for the input!

you can take this with a grain of salt, as i did, but in reality that’s 124/125. my coach says his monitor is due for a bit of a recalibration. 

one of the things we’ve worked on is establishing a “game speed” for me. right now that’s sitting in the low 120s. above that i lose control of the club face. 

Makes sense not worth swinging that hard if you have no clue where it is going. Interesting to see what you end up with as your setup.

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OMG, I had a great time at the range! And, it was not at all what I expected. 

I had to cancel my range membership due to insufficient funds lately, 😣 but, a very gracious friend of mine let's me know when he is heading to the range and shares his bucket with me. Before all this, I always had my clubs in the car. But, now I am scraping by so, I was doing some caregiving work a town away when I got the notification from my friend to head to the range... The range is on the way home from my caregiving gig.

I showed up without any of my clubs and, he offered to let me share his clubs. I know my clubs well and, I know his clubs were different in many ways but, it was sure fun trying to send a few orbs downrange with foreign equipment. I was able to dial in the driver, 7i, and Gap wedge pretty well. 

What really surprised me was the Cleveland 588 51° oil can finish wedge - I couldn't miss with it. ... I might be scouring used equipment for one soon. 

My friend is amazing and, I am very grateful to get a chance to hit a few balls with him. 

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