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But they're known for irons. Dozens of tour guys play their irons. Driver on the other hand...
Ok. I'm on board with that. At first read I thought US Open>>>Honda Classic. But looking from the angle that a Mizuno Driver hasn't won on tour for 19 years, this is pretty big.

I brought this up in the thread about Titleist winning the equipment count again, but how much money are we talking per player in this pay to play model? Does this cover expenses or is this more like a comfortable living? How does this compare to tour earnings for guys hovering around the lose your card status?

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58 minutes ago, romeopapazulu said:

Ok. I'm on board with that. At first read I thought US Open>>>Honda Classic. But looking from the angle that a Mizuno Driver hasn't won on tour for 19 years, this is pretty big.

I brought this up in the thread about Titleist winning the equipment count again, but how much money are we talking per player in this pay to play model? Does this cover expenses or is this more like a comfortable living? How does this compare to tour earnings for guys hovering around the lose your card status?

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This is a golf.com article (I know, more like "article") but Ryan Palmer (who was part of the leaderboard at the Honda) said this: "Equipment contracts are not worth the money." He was talking in the realm of a few hundred thousand dollars. I would imagine for a bigger name that number might approach a mil? Especially if they want to use you in advertising, etc. I don't know if guys on the fringes of the tour are worth the money for the OEM to invest in, so they are probably just happy with free clubs and tour van access. 

He's more of a true free agent than all the former Nike guys. Those guys are still getting their Nike money while playing whatever club they want,so there isn't as much of a financial incentive for them. 

 

https://www.golf.com/gear/2018/12/04/ryan-palmer-equipment-contracts-not-worth-it/

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I'm actually looking at the ST180 since I can't afford anything new. Mizuno has come a long way with their drivers. Hopefully the drivers will get as much love as their irons

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15 minutes ago, mbrodeur86 said:

I'm actually looking at the ST180 since I can't afford anything new. Mizuno has come a long way with their drivers. Hopefully the drivers will get as much love as their irons

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If you are okay with the blue, you will not go wrong. I played their JPX 850 Driver and 3 Wood, and I still regret selling them!

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I just went to try out the ST-190 driver against the Callaway Rogue Sub Zero on the launch monitor after not swinging a club for a week. Rogue came back with a swing speed of 108mph, 233m carry and little pulls (shaft wasn't really working for me). The Mizuno came back with SS of 114mph (average), 238m carry and very straight (and I could hit little cuts and fades with it!!!). As soon as the ST190 comes down in price, I will be getting one!!

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Not sure if i am really sold on Mizuno. Need to give it a fair try of course. Their irons have always been butter. Its tough keeping up with the big names though.

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Not sure if i am really sold on Mizuno. Need to give it a fair try of course. Their irons have always been butter. Its tough keeping up with the big names though.

It really is a good driver! Feel/sound is probably the best of all drivers released this year!!!


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I feel like back in the early 2000's they had some great drivers but then it fell off substantially.

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I hit one yesterday at Golf Galaxy, it felt okay to me, not the best.  The numbers were around all the other big drivers out there and I thought it looked great!  I tried the Ping G410 and HATED it.  I am probable one of the only ones that will say that, but it had too much going on with the crown.  Too many bumps and ridges for my eye.  I like a clean simple look and Mizuno has that!  They also have a lower price then the big ones on the market.  If you are looking for a new driver, don't overlook this one!

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On 3/11/2019 at 10:53 AM, ballplayer002003 said:

I hit one yesterday at Golf Galaxy, it felt okay to me, not the best.  The numbers were around all the other big drivers out there and I thought it looked great!  I tried the Ping G410 and HATED it.  I am probable one of the only ones that will say that, but it had too much going on with the crown.  Too many bumps and ridges for my eye.  I like a clean simple look and Mizuno has that!  They also have a lower price then the big ones on the market.  If you are looking for a new driver, don't overlook this one!

I had similar results - i thought the Mizuno looked great, but feel and performance was ok.  I actually spun the ball too much, closer to 2900 with the Mizuno.

I thought the same on the Ping from last year, but thought the G410 looks a little better and the performance was really great on the few I hit.  Did it feel good to you?  I thought its among the best I've tried this year.  

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2 hours ago, juspoole said:

I had similar results - i thought the Mizuno looked great, but feel and performance was ok.  I actually spun the ball too much, closer to 2900 with the Mizuno.

I thought the same on the Ping from last year, but thought the G410 looks a little better and the performance was really great on the few I hit.  Did it feel good to you?  I thought its among the best I've tried this year.  

The Ping did feel good, I just found it tough looking down on it.  My eyes would go from the target line to one of the bumps then back to the target then back to another bump...I found it hard to focus.  Maybe it's just me, and I am sure I am in the minority with this but just my opinion.  If Ping would clean up the topline then for me they would have one hell of a driver.

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1 hour ago, ballplayer002003 said:

The Ping did feel good, I just found it tough looking down on it.  My eyes would go from the target line to one of the bumps then back to the target then back to another bump...I found it hard to focus.  Maybe it's just me, and I am sure I am in the minority with this but just my opinion.  If Ping would clean up the topline then for me they would have one hell of a driver.

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For me, it is between the Titleist TS3 and the Epic Flash Sub Zero.  I was getting the best numbers with these two drivers and their top line is simple.  I hate the colors of the Callaway, however they are all on the bottom of the club so I wont see that at address.

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Received my ST190 on Friday and was able to get it out for a couple rounds this weekend. First round was really getting use to a different feel, 1 I went from a 8.5 lofted down in my Titleist to 9.5 straight in for the ST190. 2 I went to a 68 gram Atmos Tour Spec Black vs my trustee Aerotech Claymore MX48 which was only 50 grams. Yesterday's round was a much different story, hit some of the longest drives in the last couple years for me. And hit all but two fairways. Gonna get some more use out of it. But Mizuno has a winner. Feel and sound were just so solid.

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I received my ST190 HL a week ago and have played 3 rounds with it. I'm more accurate than I was with my Ping G30, and the G30 was no slouch by any measure. My drives have been a few yards longer, maybe 5-7 yards. All in all, an improvement, especially given the time of year. Love the feel and sound, and the ST190 is definitely forgiving.  My miss so far has been high off the toe, but the shots still find the fairway without losing a lot of distances.  Obviously I don't know how this driver will work for others, but I'm very pleased with it.

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We had a Mizuno demo day at our club a couple of weeks back. I tried the 190 and got good numbers with it. I got fit into a Tensei Orange shaft. It came in last week and I've been able to hit it at the range a couple of times. I like that I can hit it hard without worrying about it hooking.

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Mine just arrived in the mail on Friday - hoping to give it a go at the range this afternoon, playing Saturday. I will be posting my experience in the unofficial review forum for anyone interested.


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I'm waiting on my ST190 to arrive.  I'm hoping it gets here for the weekend.

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Mine arrived last Thursday but work and weather didn't allow for any range time last weekend. Currently have a fujikura XLR8 51 shaft with a Mizuno tip on it that I have been giving the waggle test to since Sunday lol. Thinking about putting a tip on my old 50M4 black tie shaft to do some testing this weekend. Suppose to be 71 with rain so I'm hoping to find an hour of dry weather to hit the range. Apparently I am driving my wife nuts talking about wanting to get out and swing a club!

 

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Well first range session in the books. Not surprising the swing was very rusty. Weather was a brisk 54* with a 10mph tail wind for reference. After warming up with my wedges, I jumped straight to the ST190 as I was most eager to hit it. First swing was a baby cut that flew forever. The range has a 300 sign at the end of the range followed by a field. Using my range finder the sign measured 288 yards. The ball carried beyond the sign into the field. What? First swing with range balls carries over 290, that has to be a fluke. Turns out it wasn’t. Every shot carried the sign with very little movement. This thing wants to go straight. I did have to really work to hit a draw as everything today was a baby cut or push right. I bought this blind and I couldn’t be happier. I have found my driver for the year. Maybe even found one to stop the hoing.....? Time will tell. I am hoping with the UST VTS TSPX shaft coming I can up the loft to position 6 or even 5 to help move the ball right to left since that is my preferred ball flight.

As for the sound I think it is perfect. Just slightly higher sounding thud/thwack compared to the epic, z785, and F9 but definitely more explosive feeling.

I think it is going to be a good year for me and my Mizuno. I say they finally got it ALL right looks, feel, sound, and ball speed.


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