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Yeah, I definitely agree there's more good strikes with the blade. But like [mention=65848]RickyBobby_PR[/mention] said, maybe more important is that the poor and very poor shots are grouped a lot tighter.
I do wonder if perhaps the mat might be altering the outcome some? Or something else I can't think of. I also think it's curious why Crossfield games the Launchers if this video seems to suggest blades are the way to go, even if that's just for him.
I'm not totally sure what to do with it to be honest! I do like Mark's honest and frank perspectives. I think I remember TXG doing a video on blades vs GI irons, but I don't remember their conclusion. I'll have to dig that up and watch it tomorrow to jog my memory.

Juuuust because it showed up on my suggested videos...


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7 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

But wouldn’t any club that you pure go further than your other shots? Other than the apex cf16 for many and for a few the p790 and i500 these had those occasional fliers but when many amateurs experience that type of results it’s from that s*** where everything fell in place and the property compressed the ball

No,  I am fairly consistent at finding the middle.   When I pure my mc501 7 iron it goes 177-182.  If I miss it it will be a bit short but nothing to bad.  With any of the above irons I bet at least twice a round I would “pure” a shot thinking it was going to be right beside the pin and end up air mailing the green.   I am not talking about flyers from the rough or those shots that go further because of adrenaline I am talking about stock shot.

 

 

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7 hours ago, B.Boston said:


Juuuust because it showed up on my suggested videos...

 

 

 

 

 

LOL you and everyone else knows which one I would go for out of those 2. 

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No,  I am fairly consistent at finding the middle.   When I pure my mc501 7 iron it goes 177-182.  If I miss it it will be a bit short but nothing to bad.  With any of the above irons I bet at least twice a round I would “pure” a shot thinking it was going to be right beside the pin and end up air mailing the green.   I am not talking about flyers from the rough or those shots that go further because of adrenaline I am talking about stock shot.
 
 

Yeah, while I haven’t done any of my own real testing I remember reading about how the AP2s were designed to not have “hot spots” like other clubs at the time.

It was suggesting that irons chasing distance with more spring like faces would not be as consistent distance wise.

It appears that Mark might be seeing something like this in his shots here, but I’m not sure. I’m pretty sure I but my AP2 the same distance as I was hitting my r7 irons before that.

I will say the only time I really feel like I airmailed one is from a flyer lie or if I misjudge the wind, but the AP2 are not close to a blade. Haha


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LOL you and everyone else knows which one I would go for out of those 2. 

The big question we all have is MacGregor or Miura in Big Stu’s dream bag?


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8 hours ago, B.Boston said:


Juuuust because it showed up on my suggested videos...

 

 

 

 

 

They also did this follow up video with a G400 vs Miura for a little more extreme example than the Srixon

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They also did this follow up video with a G400 vs Miura for a little more extreme example than the Srixon

For those interested:





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7 hours ago, Hotdocta said:

No,  I am fairly consistent at finding the middle.   When I pure my mc501 7 iron it goes 177-182.  If I miss it it will be a bit short but nothing to bad.  With any of the above irons I bet at least twice a round I would “pure” a shot thinking it was going to be right beside the pin and end up air mailing the green.   I am not talking about flyers from the rough or those shots that go further because of adrenaline I am talking about stock shot.

 

 

While finding the middle is good it’s not an indication of puring imo. Puring a shot to me is proper compression of the ball and the sound/feel of softness. Considering even the pros don’t pure 100% of their shots even though the find the middle quite frequently us amatuers arent puring a lot of shots.

We may see the consistency in distances and consistency in distance lost on missed shots when a shot is properly compressed compared to our normal shot there’s going to be some added distance.

As mentioned in my early reply there have been some clubs that have known hot shots like the cf16 and other that have reports of them but not nearly to the extent the cf16 has. Someone with you distance is probably prone to the hot shots for some of the clubs that have had those reports. 


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1 hour ago, B.Boston said:


For those interested:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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I meant to throw the link in myself, must have forgot 😂. Thanks for covering me!

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I meant to throw the link in myself, must have forgot . Thanks for covering me!

Don’t thank me! Thank apple, google, YouTube, Facebook, and whoever else is stealing all the data from my phone because both of those videos were right on my suggested playlist.


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Don’t thank me! Thank apple, google, YouTube, Facebook, and whoever else is stealing all the data from my phone because both of those videos were right on my suggested playlist. emoji15.png


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The man is watching always!

For me I dont know the data I just know for me I have always been non-blade simply for the fact that my swing is steep and if I used them I would probably be to China in an hour.

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

While finding the middle is good it’s not an indication of puring imo. Puring a shot to me is proper compression of the ball and the sound/feel of softness. Considering even the pros don’t pure 100% of their shots even though the find the middle quite frequently us amatuers arent puring a lot of shots.

We may see the consistency in distances and consistency in distance lost on missed shots when a shot is properly compressed compared to our normal shot there’s going to be some added distance.

As mentioned in my early reply there have been some clubs that have known hot shots like the cf16 and other that have reports of them but not nearly to the extent the cf16 has. Someone with you distance is probably prone to the hot shots for some of the clubs that have had those reports. 

For me puring is hitting it in the center and it flying the exact distance it was suppose to.  I am no pro though and my swing by no means is anywhere close to a pro.   So a lot of bad shots are definitely me, not the club.  There are occasional times where I feel like the stars align and my swing is “perfect”, lol for an amateur, and it goes a bit further,  but not like what I was seeing with the gi irons.  I guess what I am trying to say is that the dispersion front to back is just way tighter on one piece forged irons.  Of course, this is only my observation and it could be in my head.

Totally agree with the cf16’s though.   It was unfortunate, because I thought over all those were very good irons.

To ad to this thread, I also do think that for us amateurs who do not have amazing swings,  when we are having a bad day, blades are definitely more punishing.  


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1 hour ago, Lacassem said:

The man is watching always!

For me I dont know the data I just know for me I have always been non-blade simply for the fact that my swing is steep and if I used them I would probably be to China in an hour.

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The Man might be displeased at the lack of proper capitalization.  🤔😇

I like to make them think I am not so smart so they overlook me 🤨

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4 hours ago, B.Boston said:


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Really enjoyed and learned from this video, Thanks

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Really enjoyed and learned from this video, Thanks

I like the stuff they put on that channel. They get into the tech quite a bit and Ian is full of fitting knowledge for sure.


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14 minutes ago, B.Boston said:


I like the stuff they put on that channel. They get into the tech quite a bit and Ian is full of fitting knowledge for sure.


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I watched the Crossfield video and made me think of this thread. Obviously he is one person and I noticed there were more good shots with the blade. Like mentioned by others TXG videos mean so much more to me then Crossfield. I want to do a apples to apples compare with my MP-33 irons & TS-1 to really compare and understand the pros and cons of each.

I love @ncwoz comment about Mark playing the Launchers if he hit his Top Flites so well. 

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I have a decent handicap but have no desire to play blades. I want all game improvement features to help me get the ball up,  hit it straight, and land it where I want to.  If these features help to lower your  score I'm all about it. I don't need to have a fully matched set of brand "X" it's all about what works for me.  


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