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2 minutes ago, Green4Spinach said:

Excellent stuff. Well done. You have four holes with one putt. I am keen to hear your experience of approach shots and short game with the Vice.

Just got done with my write up on the vice pro..hell of a ball! Felt pretty good today and was throwing darts at the pin between 120-160..all one putts except 1 were from 10ft in.. Made a miraculous putt from around 30 that won't happen often.. Quite a few 3 putts too at first bc I was trying to get use to the speed of the Vice ball

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Finally won the battle against FedEx and the balls were delivered today.

Unboxing the Vice Pro Plus

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I like the branded box that the balls show up in. Looks nicer than a boring brown box and also conveys a more premium product.

A quick recap, I got the Vice Pro Plus in White and in Purple/Orange Drip.

Packaging of the individual boxes look s comparable to any other brand, this is a positive. Nothing about it feels DTC or value in the packaging.

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The Balls

The white looks bright and clean. I like the alignment aid that is bevelled on either side, something different.

The exciting part of the review for me is the Drip. When given the option, I knew it was my duty to the Forum to do a mix and compare drip vs traditional. The drip is drippier than I was expecting, more intense paint splatter effect.

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I think it looks cool, I will happily play them but I do think they aren't for everyone.

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Tactile

Like some of the others have mentioned they have a slight sticky feeling to them. I don't dislike this, more indifferent to it. However, they do feel different in my hand than the Bridgestone BXs that I played last round out.

 

I've got a round this weekend and will get some on-course photos to see if the white vs drip show a difference in find-ability.

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On 6/3/2024 at 4:15 PM, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone had a chance to putt around or give some initial feedback on feel? 

I will role a couple tonight and compare it against a couple other ball brands. After unboxing, I expect it to be a muted feel. 

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1 hour ago, hands39 said:

Finally won the battle against FedEx and the balls were delivered today.

Unboxing the Vice Pro Plus

box.jpg.5ec2437554b12e2f3829ff9173b102a2.jpg

I like the branded box that the balls show up in. Looks nicer than a boring brown box and also conveys a more premium product.

A quick recap, I got the Vice Pro Plus in White and in Purple/Orange Drip.

Packaging of the individual boxes look s comparable to any other brand, this is a positive. Nothing about it feels DTC or value in the packaging.

covers.jpg.d802f8a990eea0db7522f1a8ca745fdd.jpg

The Balls

The white looks bright and clean. I like the alignment aid that is bevelled on either side, something different.

The exciting part of the review for me is the Drip. When given the option, I knew it was my duty to the Forum to do a mix and compare drip vs traditional. The drip is drippier than I was expecting, more intense paint splatter effect.

drip.jpg.3795110307f1794e622f872ae08a4eeb.jpg

I think it looks cool, I will happily play them but I do think they aren't for everyone.

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Tactile

Like some of the others have mentioned they have a slight sticky feeling to them. I don't dislike this, more indifferent to it. However, they do feel different in my hand than the Bridgestone BXs that I played last round out.

 

I've got a round this weekend and will get some on-course photos to see if the white vs drip show a difference in find-ability.

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I'm looking forward to your findings!  It's nice to see a fellow Canadian in this test as well.  I hope you have a great round.

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On 5/27/2024 at 10:34 AM, Bubba1985 said:

                      Introduction:

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Gonna keep this short and sweet! I grew up in a family logging business and anyone who is in a family business can justify, you work non stop! Started when I was 14 and up until 7 years ago I put in 14+ hrs a day 6-7 days a week, so any free time I had was spent with the wife and kids.. Absolutely no free time for a hobby! All that changed when my Grandpa retired and handed the company to me..I told him I didn't want that stress the rest of my life and went to work at a paper mill

 

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Now I work 14 of 28 days so I had time to find something I enjoyed to do, but what? A few buddies invited me to play "18" with them and though I was an extremely great athlete growing up, golf never crossed my mind..3 years later and I've played every course within 100 mile radius! 

 

I still have a lot of growing in the game of golf but I'm definitely getting better and better! It's a hard game mentally.. Some days are an 83-84 type day and some are in the 90s.. I'm not real consistent with my score yet, but I'm working on it..I try to play about 5xs a month

 

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I will be testing the Vice Pro (shade) ball and have done a little homework on it and going to be comparing it up against a few Titleist balls.. I'm thinking the Pro V1 and maybe the avx, but not 100% on that yet as I'm still doing homework as we speak.

 

Since I haven't been playing that long I'm not stuck in my ways yet.. At $32 this ball definitely has a chance to make it in my bag if it acts right off the driver and gives me a few extra yards, has stopping power on the greens, and carries a mid flight with my long irons.. Only time will tell! 

 

If anyone wanted to test this ball and didn't get the opportunity but want me to test it against a certain ball u play just let me know.. Will be happy to help out! Thanks to MGS and Vice for this opportunity 

 

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                        THE UNBOXING:

 

The Vice Pro Shade balls knocked on my door this afternoon. I was pleasantly surprised at the quickness of the shipping!

 

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Nothing jumped out at me about the packaging of the product.. No unique box, no bubble wrap, nothing of the sort.. Just a plain everyday brown box with a Vice label and 2 dozen golf balls in it.. As unique as the Vice brand is with colors, I was kinda disappointed.. I actually work for the world's largest box making company so, personally was looking forward to a packaging box that stood out and made me want to order straight from the company time after time.

               THE FINAL REVIEW:

              First Impressions: 9/10

 

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 The actual Vice Pro box is simple but not; all at the same time.. Not to much info to turn you off from reading it, but enough to give an accurate description of the ball.. All this with just the right amount of artistic touch to get you interested if ur looking at different balls to buy on the shelf.. Great Job vice!

 

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In my eyes Vice has always out worked the competition when it comes to the eye test.. They aren't scared to push the boundaries with color and do the same here with a beautiful blended orange/ yellow (is that yellow?) ball.. It will get looks no matter what course your playing

 

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                 The Aesthetics: 10/10

 

We have already covered the color and art of the ball (that's why I have it at a 7) but other than that not much is done to make it stand out

 

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The alignment aid is kind of boring and doesn't really add anything to the look and I'm guessing bc of the extravagant color scheme, it has more of a "sticky" feel than most any other golf ball. (After doing some research I found u can customize your alignment aid so +1 for that feature!)

 After doing some test against the Bridgestone Tour B RX this morning we found out a few things:

 

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The weight is almost exactly the same although the compression with the Vice is 90 and the Bridgestone is 79.. So, you all know that means we had to cut them open

 

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I found that the Vice (pictured above) had exactly 1-1/2" core and

 

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the Bridgestone was 1/16" smaller (the pic is kind of deceptive because of the angle, it's definitely 1/16"), but 1/32" thicker mantle and urethane.. From this we can definitely see where the distance will come into play but it brings questions of the durability for the Vice Pro.

My questions about the durability of this ball were answered today.. Found 2 limbs, the cart path twice, and played all 18 holes with this ball

 

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I am AMAZED at how well this ball took a beating and that was the only damage found.. +2 for the Vice Pro survival skills!

 

                     Sound and Feel:

The feel of the Vice Pro is more firm than I'm use too but not so much that's it's a turn off! It's definitely louder than the supersofts I play on a regular but pretty close to the Maxfli Tour I play on a norm.. No matter if you play a soft or firm ball, I don't think u will have a problem adjusting to the sound or feel of the Vice

 

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                         The Numbers: 20/20

I didn't put the Vice Pro on a simulator but instead shot it side by side with a Pro V1.. I honestly thought going on that the Vice ball was just hype for a revamped ball and it wouldn't compete; Man was I wrong! I out drove the Pro V1 by about 5 to 7 yards the 5xs I put them head to head on the fairway (it was obvious to me by the fifth time, no need to hit 100) and the run out was much better than expected! 

 

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The biggest difference actually came on the green from the approach! Can't 100% say if was the golf ball, but I was throwing darts today and the Vice Pro was stopping within inches of the landing spot..a couple even rolled back at the pin and I'm not one of those guys that can do that.. Thinking that's why they made the ball extra "sticky".. It's definitely a thing of beauty to play with this ball and watch it do it's thing!

 

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                      On The Course:20/20

Driver: as before mentioned it beat the Pro V1 by 5-7 yards five times in a row so no complaints off the tee! High launch (which is normal for me) and roll out was great! Had a nice, solid, firm feel against the driver face. 

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Fairway woods/hybrid: These clubs are my bread and butter.. I have a 3 wood, 5 wood, and 5 hybrid.. I managed to hit the draw when needed, arrow shots at will, and even a slice to work around some trees and put it back to the FW a couple times.. The Vice Pro definitely works with u and not against u.. Super impressed! 

Irons:  I don't carry a 4 or 5 iron anymore so this review is for 6i-9i.. With that being said, it was a nice mid flight with my 6i and 7i.. Nothing crazy distance wise and was actually right on the numbers with the Pro V1.. Decent roll out and feel was what u would expect from a high performance ball.. 8i and 9i was a different story.. Nice, high ball flight and found a few greens with them.. ABSOLUTELY NO BALL ON THE MARKET HAS THIS STOPPING POWER!! Starting to think this ball has break calipers in it.. Super impressed and there isn't a close second in this category!

 

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Wedges: I'm not huge on wedges so I won't be a ton of help here but the few times I hit them I noticed the high spin and check up on the green..I use the bump and run with an 8 iron around the green but quickly noticed this ball isn't really made for a bump and run because of the bite on the greens..

Putter: putting was a little more finicky than I thought it would be.. Had a few 3 putts getting use to this ball.. There is a certain "tock" u hear when hit in the sweet spot of the putter and it's undeniable, but the ball plays a little slower than I'm use to (which isn't a bad thing, just had to adjust).. Finally started figuring out my speed control of this ball after 5 or 6 holes.. Once figured out, I preferred the slower roll over the Pro V..

 

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The Good, the Bad, and In-between: 20/20

                                Good:

To be honest over the past week of me hitting this ball over and over in my yard, at the practice range, and on the course I haven't found to many negative things to say about it.. The price vs other high end balls is fantastic, the performance is wonderful, and durability is way more than I expected! I wasn't a believer going into this test but I am leaving one! 

                                  Bad:

I'm gasping at straws here bc it hasn't let me down yet.. I did 3 putt in situations that I normally don't while I was getting use to the speed of this ball.. It's a little slower on the green (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) 

                               In-Between:

Longer iron shots.. Nothing stood out.. Nothing wrong but nothing right either.. It's exactly what you would expect from a high end ball.. No longer distance or roll out but not shorter either..

                   Play It or Trade It: 20/20

Play it!!! It has found a permanent home in my bag.. I call it my Capitol One ball (never leave home without it).. It has replaced my Maxfli Tour as my go to premium ball.. With the price point of $32 and either performing equal too or out performing the competition, why wouldn't you have this ball in your bag.. If you are on the fence and you find yourself reading this article, just buy the ball and give it a try.. What's $32 when your spending $60 and can get the same performance.. Only downfall is your wallet will be a little heavier bc you made a smart decision! 

 

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                            Conclusion:

If you jumped over all the reasons to buy this ball; I get it! That's a lot to read, but hopefully your reading this part..TRY THIS BALL!! Dollar for dollar it might be the best on the market! The 2024 Vice Pro is long, durable, and has more bite than a shark with a spare set of wisdom teeth! Vice has priced this ball to fly off the shelf and I, for one, am jumping on this train! If your in the market for a new ball or just wanting to save a few bucks but didn't want to give up your premium ball, this should be in your shopping cart!

 

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                          Final score: 99/100

I didn't think it would be near this high because I'm a hard critic, but I went in with an open mind and couldn't believe what I found! 

 

 

 

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Great write up. What are your thoughts on the orange colour and playability? Ever loose sight of the ball more/less than a white ball? How did it look in sand or deep rough?

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22 minutes ago, hands39 said:

Great write up. What are your thoughts on the orange colour and playability? Ever loose sight of the ball more/less than a white ball? How did it look in sand or deep rough?

Honestly, I didn't talk about the color on the course too much bc ppl play a lot of matte balls around here and I guess it's normal to see orange, blue, red, pink, etc played daily.. But to touch on that, the orange was extremely easy to see during the summer months, but I'm thinking might not be as easy in the fall when the leaves are changing and on the ground and grass is turning golden.. It very much stood out it the sand with no problems and truth be told, I lost it a couple times in the air..I think the lime green would be better to play year around.. Just my personal opinion.

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Here is a color comparison of the Vice Air balls versus the color of two competitors balls.  I am playing Sunday morning and I will report back when I’ve gathered my information.  I believe the Vice Air balls stand out, which may be beneficial for some golfers, including myself.  😂

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18 hours ago, Green4Spinach said:

I have wondered about the visibility of a lime green ball once it lands on a fairway. Or in the rough. I am intrigued by your statement that it glows like a beacon. Can you capture this in a picture?

I will have a picture later this weekend.   Being in the rough is not part of my course management plan. 😂🤣

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On 6/6/2024 at 9:15 PM, Bubba1985 said:

I'm not normally that good, and I can't say it was all the ball either..I took a month away from the game and had been just working on fundamentals and it came together today.. Like I said, prolly won't ever happen again but at least it did once!

 

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Btw, that's suppose to be fairways hit, not GIR..was very distracted with family business on the phone right before I started playing and just never changed it

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On 5/28/2024 at 6:57 PM, Tincuptim said:

Anxious to hear about the feel and durability. Bombs away!!!

On 6/3/2024 at 9:15 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

Anyone had a chance to putt around or give some initial feedback on feel? 

After two rounds and some time on the putting green, I personally found the 2024 Pro Plus to feel slightly but noticeably softer off the putter but firmer off the irons vs the 2020 version (feels like they may have softened the cover but firmed up the mantles).

I was able to make it through most of the 1st round with a single ball, but missed taking a picture before losing it on the 6th hole of the 2nd round. Durability seems ever so slightly worse based on a few light scuffs after an aggressive wedge shot, but still great compared many other balls on the market (which is typical for cast TSU covers). I plan to do some more head to head short game practice this week and will try to get a good sample size of bunker shots to really test cover durability between the two. 

Driver:  Titleist TS2 9.5

Fairway:  Tour Edge CB4 Tour 16.5 

Irons:  Titleist 690.CB 3-PW

Wedges:  Titleist Vokey SM5 50, 56

Putter:  Odyssey Works Versa 1W

Ball:  Vice Pro Plus

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Played my first round with the Pro Plus yesterday. Played horrible but that was a me thing, not a ball thing.

What I noticed from the ball, the orange/blue speckle pattern had no impact on visibility compared to the white offering. I played most of the round with a white Pro Plus and durability was good, I'll get a picture of the ball tonight the was used for about 6-7 holes.

One negative of the speckle pattern was that it was harder to quickly see mud/dirt on the ball that would need cleaning. It blended in with the pattern, just something to be aware of.

Feel putting was great, I have an Odyssey Putter and with its face insert, the ball felt great off the face, deliberate and not clicky. The spin from bunkers was really nice, I was able to hit both a chunk and run style, and a check-up bunker shot. The quick check bunker shot is not usually I can pull off, so I was happy to see that.

On 6/8/2024 at 1:36 AM, Lefty11 said:

Here is a color comparison of the Vice Air balls versus the color of two competitors balls.  I am playing Sunday morning and I will report back when I’ve gathered my information.  I believe the Vice Air balls stand out, which may be beneficial for some golfers, including myself.  😂

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What was visibility like from a distance? Like you were trying to find a shot from 10-30 yards out?

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Taking the Vice Drive out on the course

You can colour me confused right now. 

Here's what happened the first time I took the Vice Drives out on the golf course. I struggled to get to grips with the ball - its flight, its distance, its short game performance. And I equalled my lowest score ever on the course. 

So let me unpack this for you. 

I played on Saturday on our local 9 hole course. 

Starting out

My first drive was a low, bouncing effort. It travelled 182 yards according to Shot Scope, but this was down from the 211 yards that it is my predicted P-Average. For those of you not familiar with the Performance Average metric, it is Shot Scope's way of producing an average where the outliers (the really good shots and the really poor shots) are dropped out of the calculation in order to estimate an expected distance from a reasonable shot. My second shot was from the fairway with my hybrid and this too bobbled along a mere 94 yards, compared to 160 yards of P-Avg. My PW then landed on the green around pin height - and bounced and continued bouncing along well past it. I ended up two over for the first hole, a reasonable outcome for a 28 handicapper, but I felt I could have done so much better. 

The next hole was worse. I got zero flight on my drive and ended up with a 90 yard bobble in the rough. Looking for the ball in the rough did uncover four other balls, including a TaylorMade TP5 and a Callaway Supersoft. Some unwise shots and poor approach play meant I was already six over by the end of the second hole. On the third hole, I overshot the Par 3 green and ended up with a bogey as I also struggled to control the distance on my putts. My usual miss is putting short of the hole, but with the Vice Drive I was just hitting too hard. The fourth, also a Par 3, was the first time I felt comfortable with my tee shot, landed on the green, and got away with a par. 

That's saying it all wrong. Rejoice with me, folks. I actually got a par. 

TaylorMade opportunity?

Feeling a bit deflated by already being 7 down at the end of the 4th, I decided to swap balls. Instead of using either the Drive or my regular Mizuno RB566, I used the TaylorMade TP5 I found in the rough on the 2nd hole.

My drive was the sweetest I have ever hit in my life. The drive launched straight and high. I looked for it on the fairway but found it on the green - 254 yards from the tee. OK, I have recorded a longer drive but that was 296 yards downhill on a Welsh countryside with a sharp wind driving all before me. Yes, I birdied this Par 4 - the first time I have ever birdied this particular hole. 

I was back to having a spring in my step. Only for a 50 yard drive on the 6th with the Vice Drive to let the air out of my balloon all over again. Was I ever going to hit the Vice cleanly? (As you might have figured out by now, it is so easy for a 28 handicapper to blame the ball for the bad strikes...). My 5 iron did a partial rescue with a 171 yard strike (another personal distance best with this club, according to Shot Scope) followed by a high flying 56 wedge shot. It needed just one putt to complete the hole, and that encouraged me. 

The seventh is one that usually demonstrates the high magnetism of a golf ball to water. Instead, the Vice flew cleanly for 224 yards down the fairway, but some indifferent putting got me a bogey. I also bogeyed the Par 3 eighth thanks to a poor tee shot. But the ninth hole had yet another clean and straight drive for 224 yards, and I cleaned up with another par. 

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The net outcome was 12 over for the round. As a 28 handicapper, that was an excellent score for me, and getting me closer to the 9 over that I would like to get to before the end of my first year in golf in five months time. And given that I was seven over after four, I was only five over for the last five. 

So where does this leave me? 

Still confused.

The Vice travels further than my regular Mizuno RB566. I hit longer drives with it, and my 5 iron too posted its best distance with the ball. The Mizuno claim is around extra hang time. I would say with this limited experience that Mizuno's hang time claim is validated as is the Vice's distance claim. The Mizuno seems to land softer and bounce less, perhaps because of a different arc of travel.

But my short game would need some recalibrating as the Vice ball both travelled further through the air and then bounced more than I was used to. I have already commented on my distance control in putting (why do I use words that I clearly do not know how to put into practice?) with the Vice. The ball feels firmer than I am used to.

All my clubs sound louder with the Vice Drive than the Mizuno. My ageing Titleist driver was notorious in its day for its metallic clang. I was reminded of that feature again with the sound of Titleist metalwood meeting Vice ionomer. My Ping Glide wedge has a muted thwuck with the ProV1 I sometimes practice my chipping with in the back garden. A sharp click is the Glide's sound with the Drive.  

After 9 holes, there was hardly a mark on the ball, despite seven wedge shots in the round. So durability is pointing in a good direction. I did not lose a single Vice ball, so finding it proved easier than my usual struggles with the white Mizuno. The slight sheen of the Vice ball's surface does mean that it can reflect back in sunshine - just like the damp grass around it. So my wife's matte red Callaway seems even easier to find.

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As a new golfer, I did not imagine the ball would have much effect on my play. I picked the Mizuno RB566 as my go-to ball because the reviews talked about its aerodynamic capabilities helping golfers loft the ball. Having bought three dozen Mizunos, it is the ball I have played almost all my golf with. So my lack of sustained experience with another ball meant that I was surprised to find it jarring to use a ball that goes further than I expect with my clubs (except when it doesn't), and that bounces more than the Mizuno does, and feels firmer when putting. 

But distance helps scoring - everything I read about shot tracking tells me to favour going further. The Vice Drive is unabashedly about travelling longer. It achieves that, compared to my regular ball.

Of course, my brief experience with the TP5 shows that when electrons align with metals, and sweet spots gets well and truly spotted, then even my circa 90mph swing speed can get me a 250 yard drive. So perhaps I am inclined to see what I can get out of a premium ball. I had been promised a set of Vice Pro Airs as a comparator but they have not shown up. I am intrigued by the idea that a better ball might actually give me the best of both worlds: distance plus control.

Is there such a ball, people? 

In the meanwhile, I will continue to test out the Vice Drive. 

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I will be sharing more thoughts on the Vice Pro Air tomorrow.  It's been a busy day, so stay tuned for more insights!

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I found a Vice Pro Plus on the first hole yeaterday and after reading about it here decided to try it the rest of the round.  It looked brand new and was in a spot i assume was lost on the first drive of the day.  I usually play Snell MTBX balls. 

The carry distance played about the same as the snell balls.  I did notice a lot more approach shot roll out with the pro plus than what i get with the snell.  After a few holes where it ran off the back i adjusted the necessary shot yardage to landing the ball about 7 yards short of the pin yardage. 

It seemed a little clickier when putting but i did not have any issues controlling distance when lagging putts.

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12 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

I found a Vice Pro Plus on the first hole yeaterday and after reading about it here decided to try it the rest of the round.  It looked brand new and was in a spot i assume was lost on the first drive of the day.  I usually play Snell MTBX balls. 

The carry distance played about the same as the snell balls.  I did notice a lot more approach shot roll out with the pro plus than what i get with the snell.  After a few holes where it ran off the back i adjusted the necessary shot yardage to landing the ball about 7 yards short of the pin yardage. 

It seemed a little clickier when putting but i did not have any issues controlling distance when lagging putts.

Similar experience here - as a long time MTB-X (the original) user, I've really enjoyed my time with the Pro Plus this spring. Definitely a solid ball at the price. 

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Seems poor golf is a theme from the testers.  But mine started a week before I started playing the Vice, so definitely not the ball.

I've played 36+ holes with the Vice Pro Air so far, and it seems to be very much like the Maxfli Tour S I have been playing. I understand why they often use machines for testing now, is tough for a human to swing the same twice in a row when trying to compare two different balls.  That being said l, I have found absolutely nothing I dislike about the ball, and I think I like the feel more than the Maxfli and maybe better than any ball I have ever played.  It feels and sounds great off the driver, and I love it on the green.  I had seven one putts and no three putts on the way to 91 on Sunday.  If I could only hit more than one green in regulation!

Before I complete my review I plan to get to a simulator and see if I can get some comparisons using the driver.

 

 

 

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I had another outing with the Vice Pro Air golf balls over the weekend.  Here are my thoughts and experiences with them:

 

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Driver: I found the launch to be high, similar to my current ball, but the Vice Pro Air didn’t balloon.  I’ve even purposely aimed to hit the Vice Air over trees with great success, thanks in part to the performance of this golf ball.  Despite the high flight, it easily cut through the windy conditions. The distance was comparable to my usual gamer on most holes. The feel was explosive; you could really tell when you hit it properly. Although it’s a 75 compression ball, I was pleasantly surprised by the distance, as it kept up with the TP5 I was also playing. Overall, I was very pleased with its performance off the driver.

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Above: Visibility- Not my best drive but the lime ball can be seen in the grass below the tree. If you follow the tree in the middle of the picture....follow that line down and you see the lime Vice Pro Air.  

Hybrids: My experience with the hybrids was consistent with my previous encounters with the Vice Air: a high, long ball flight. The ball felt soft but not overly so. I hit a 5 hybrid into an elevated par 3 and came up short, but that was due to my off-center hit, not the ball’s performance. Since I don't carry a 3 or 5 wood, my 3 hybrid and 4 hybrid are my go-to clubs on long holes. I consistently hit long, high shots with these clubs. I am currently searching for a 4 wood, but I won’t have it until well after this test is complete.

Irons: The Vice Pro Air felt great off the irons. I noticed no difference (maybe a yard or two)  in distance compared to my regular ball. The iron shots were high, long and consistent, and the ball typically took one hop and stopped on the greens.

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Above: I hit an iron into this green but I pushed the shot a little right.  As you can see I’m pretty even with the pin  

Wedges: I absolutely love hitting wedge shots with this ball! As someone who prefers a slightly softer ball, the Vice Pro Air fits the bill perfectly. It responds well on the greens, with great bite and control, and I’ve even seen some nice backspin.  I mentioned in an earlier post that this is where the Vice Pro Air shines.   I still believe in that statement.

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Above: I hit a sand wedge from 100 yards out and I got a little backspin on the shot.  

Putter: Putting required the most adjustment for me. Since the Vice Pro Air is softer than my usual ball, it took a few holes to get used to. I found putting at home did not translate to the course.  However, I eventually saw some progress and felt more comfortable with it.

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Overall, the Vice Pro Air performed quite well across all clubs, providing a satisfying combination of distance, control, and feel

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I had my first chance to get these new Vice Pro balls out on the course Sunday. I live in Central New York. We've had so much rain lately, that it reminds me of typhoon season when I was stationed on Okinawa. We had a break in the weather today, combined with the fact that I didn't have to work, I headed to the course. We spent the morning at Domenico's golf course in Whitesboro NY. It was raining when we started, but cleared up nicely as the morning went on. I played the entire round with one ball. At the end of the round, even after ricocheting it off a tree at one point, the ball still looks like it just came out of the package. I didn't have my A game today. I shot an 83 from the whites. I can say, though, that my good shots were very much in control. I normally play the previous version Pro plus. I found the new pro ball to be similar distance wise from my irons. Shot apexes were also about the same. With driver, it was a little longer for me than the pro plus is. I'm probably not getting as much driver spin either. They were apexing a fair amount lower. With the wedges, I played a bunch of hop and stop shots today. The greens were soft because of all the rain we've had but I was still impressed at how easy the shot was to execute with this ball. I was expecting less wedge spin. I don't think that's actually true. From every club, the ball feels a good bit softer than the pro plus. I normally like the ball to feel a little firm, but this ball seems to still be in my sweet spot. My long time playing partner made the comment that I was able to control the ball better around the greens than usual. The pics I'm including are one of me, right after the round,  one of a 175 yard 5 hybrid into the green, and one from a one hop stop from about 50 yards. In that one, if you look close, you can see the pitch mark where it hit. If my next round goes like this, I'll be placing a larger order for these Vice pro balls. I'm looking forward to trying this when the course is a little baked out.

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Been doing some indoor putting. I like the black stripe for seeing if you are getting a true straight roll. I have a Callaway White Hot putter and you can barely hear the contact. Still liking these balls very much. Price wise extremely competitive 

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11 minutes ago, Mulligan09 said:

Been doing some indoor putting. I like the black stripe for seeing if you are getting a true straight roll. I have a Callaway White Hot putter and you can barely hear the contact. Still liking these balls very much. Price wise extremely competitive 

I completely agree with you, @Mulligan09! The black tapered line on the ball really helps you see the roll from the putter. I find myself using the line frequently for both tee shots and putting.

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UPDATE: CHIPPING AND PUTTING

Check out video below to hear and see some testings regarding the VICE TOUR compared to CALLAWAY CHROME TOUR. Please like and subscribe to see more content! 
 


Overall, 

not much difference with chipping a 56 and 60 degree considering roll out. Many factors can play a hand in this such as ball contact, speed, tempo, etc… but with putting, I did notice the Vice Tour to be about a foot short compared to the Callaway Chrome Tour. With feel of putting, the Vice Tour sounded more “clicky” compared to a softer and damper feeling Callaway Chrome Tour. (See video for example).

Hope everyone has a great week! 

Thanks,

Evan Suddeth PT, DPT, CSCS, TPI

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28 minutes ago, TheSudds said:

UPDATE: CHIPPING AND PUTTING

Check out video below to hear and see some testings regarding the VICE TOUR compared to CALLAWAY CHROME TOUR. Please like and subscribe to see more content! 
 


Overall, 

not much difference with chipping a 56 and 60 degree considering roll out. Many factors can play a hand in this such as ball contact, speed, tempo, etc… but with putting, I did notice the Vice Tour to be about a foot short compared to the Callaway Chrome Tour. With feel of putting, the Vice Tour sounded more “clicky” compared to a softer and damper feeling Callaway Chrome Tour. (See video for example).

Hope everyone has a great week! 

Another great video! The pro was the same, but I did like it stopping shorter on the greens, but the putting speed threw me off for a few holes till I adjusted.. definitely takes getting use to

:PXG:Bubba Ivy 

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51 minutes ago, TheSudds said:

UPDATE: CHIPPING AND PUTTING

Check out video below to hear and see some testings regarding the VICE TOUR compared to CALLAWAY CHROME TOUR. Please like and subscribe to see more content! 
 


Overall, 

not much difference with chipping a 56 and 60 degree considering roll out. Many factors can play a hand in this such as ball contact, speed, tempo, etc… but with putting, I did notice the Vice Tour to be about a foot short compared to the Callaway Chrome Tour. With feel of putting, the Vice Tour sounded more “clicky” compared to a softer and damper feeling Callaway Chrome Tour. (See video for example).

Hope everyone has a great week! 

 I thought the intro was great. Like I was about to start watching a 90s sitcom.   😆 

Do you have any notions why the VT was shorter?

 

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It's interesting to read of the experiences that other testers have of the Vice balls - different putting speeds / clicky sounds. Of course, I am testing Vice Drive, an ionomer budget ball, not a urethane offering like the Pros. But some of the same ideas apply to my experience, as written up in my post. 

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* Mizuno JPX Fli-Hi 4 and 5 hybrids

* Callaway Steelhead XR 5-PW

* Ping Glide 4 50 and 56 / Callaway Mack Daddy 2 60

* Odyssey White Hot OG 7

* Mizuno RB566

* Shot Scope X5

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1 hour ago, Green4Spinach said:

It's interesting to read of the experiences that other testers have of the Vice balls - different putting speeds / clicky sounds. Of course, I am testing Vice Drive, an ionomer budget ball, not a urethane offering like the Pros. But some of the same ideas apply to my experience, as written up in my post. 

@Green4Spinach what would be your favourite attribute of the Vice drive?  I would have loved to receive a sleeve of another Vice ball just to analyze the differences.  

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Are any of the testers sub 90 swing speeds?  Curious how these work and feel in this category. It's hard for me to find a ball that works well on driver and stopping power on the green.

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8 minutes ago, Rob Person said:

Are any of the testers sub 90 swing speeds?  Curious how these work and feel in this category. It's hard for me to find a ball that works well on driver and stopping power on the green.

Hi @Rob Person my driver swing speed is typically 88-91mph. So perhaps my experience is relevant to your question. I have found the Vice Drive to be willing to go far, with driver plus pretty much all my other clubs. I hit a personal best of 171 yards with my 5 iron, probably 10 yards longer than what I expect from that club. But you also ask about stopping power on the green. I have not adjusted to the way the Drive keeps bouncing on with my approach and wedge shots. Is that the ball or is it a lack of height with my shots? I have only played 9 holes with the Vice Drive so far, and should get in some more rounds over the next few days. My intention is to try and take advantage of the distance on offer while being mindful of the fact that the ball works differently to my gamer Mizuno around the green.

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* Callaway Rogue ST Max 5FW

* Mizuno JPX Fli-Hi 4 and 5 hybrids

* Callaway Steelhead XR 5-PW

* Ping Glide 4 50 and 56 / Callaway Mack Daddy 2 60

* Odyssey White Hot OG 7

* Mizuno RB566

* Shot Scope X5

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22 minutes ago, Rob Person said:

Are any of the testers sub 90 swing speeds?  Curious how these work and feel in this category. It's hard for me to find a ball that works well on driver and stopping power on the green.

Rob, I'm a low to mid 80's SS and can confirm that these golf balls live up to their marketing info. I was introduced to them a couple of years back when my son gave me a couple of doz. Pro Plus for Christmas. The Pro Plus worked better than my Maxfli, Snell MTB and the occasional Prov V1. At the time Vice compared flight characteristics of the Pro Plus to the Pro V1X and the Pro to the Pro V1. Between the Pro V1X and the Pro V1, I preferred the flight characteristics of the latter, so I switched from the Pro Plus to the Pro and it worked well for me. Jump ahead a couple of years to April 2024 and the introduction of Vice's latest models, I ordered a 5 doz Pro but also dropped 2 doz Pro Air into the order. I'm almost done with the Air (note I generally play 4X week), and I can confirm my preference for the Pro. I'm not getting the distance out of the Pro Air and don't like the short game characteristics.  My recommendation is to try a doz Pro Plus and compare them to a doz. Pro. The price is a bit steeper buying them at big box sores $38/doz but you should be able to determine which works best before you order larger quantities through Vice. Although keep in mind that the big box stores like Walmart are selling the older version at the $38. price. 

A couple of additional notes:

I'm shortsighted and do wear (prescription) sunglasses glasses for distance and can always follow the Neon Green vs. my golfing partners white or yellow balls. My wife likes the speckled ones (each to their own I guess) but she generally only hits her drives about 150 yds.  

Get on Vice's mail list as they run on occasion either a free shipping or a free extra doz purchase. 

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