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[GB13]

How do I get my ballflight down???

I have added 10MPH in swing speed this year and added 30 yards with the driver. However, all my irons do is launch higher and spin more. My 7 iron is still my 155 club.  How do I get the irons to launch lower? Is it a swing fault? Is it a shaft problem? 

Thanks for the help!

[djahubes]

New shafts. Try the x100.


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[Shankster]

Where is ball position

[GB13]

4 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Where is ball position

Fairly average, maybe a little bit back. 

[Shankster]

Fairly average, maybe a little bit back. 

Shot shape a cut?

[GB13]

Just now, Shankster said:

 

 

Shot shape a cut?

 

 

Mostly straight, maybe a yard of cut on average. 

[Shankster]

I am no fitter, but I hit the ball high myself, I used to hate it but I can point and shoot.

Two options, learn to like the high ball, or the crowd favorite... get fit.

What shafts are you using?

[srooch2]

Dynamic loft? Maybe... I have a similar issue, I play PX 6.5 shafts and still hit it too high. I'd say you just don't have enough forward shaft lean at impact but I'm not a professional. I don't think it's equipment related. I know when I want to hit a low ball I can, I can hold my forward press and get a great penetrating ball flight. I watched a video of my swing and I am not leaning the shaft enough at impact.

 

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[perseveringgolfer]

Similar 'issue'. Had the Titleist guy at a recent ball fitting confirm I present too much loft at impact with the irons (-2 down with driver though).

 

It's def not equipment issue, just swing related. You need to see a pro using video and trackman. I will be doing the same soon.

[Mr_Theoo]

How high is high?

[null]

I know you probably don't want to hear this but your equipment likely isn't the culprit here. Without seeing your swing, I'd guess you are hanging back.

Doesn't really affect your driver much because you hit up on the ball and get good distance.

However, with your irons it forces you to flip through impact and you are adding loft and thus hitting it high and short.

But again, this is without seeing your swing and is just a shot in the dark.

Go see a teaching pro in your area for an actual breakdown of the what's going on and how to fix it.

[ridgewalker]

Dynamic loft? Maybe... I have a similar issue, I play PX 6.5 shafts and still hit it too high. I'd say you just don't have enough forward shaft lean at impact but I'm not a professional. I don't think it's equipment related. I know when I want to hit a low ball I can, I can hold my forward press and get a great penetrating ball flight. I watched a video of my swing and I am not leaning the shaft enough at impact.
 
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Agreed...and for me it’s much harder to do than I thought it would be




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[GB13]

2 hours ago, Shankster said:

I am no fitter, but I hit the ball high myself, I used to hate it but I can point and shoot.

Two options, learn to like the high ball, or the crowd favorite... get fit.

What shafts are you using?

Nippon 105 stiff,

mid launch, mid spin. 

 

[GB13]

2 hours ago, Brewmaster said:

Dynamic loft? Maybe... I have a similar issue, I play PX 6.5 shafts and still hit it too high. I'd say you just don't have enough forward shaft lean at impact but I'm not a professional. I don't think it's equipment related. I know when I want to hit a low ball I can, I can hold my forward press and get a great penetrating ball flight. I watched a video of my swing and I am not leaning the shaft enough at impact.

 

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2 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said:

Similar 'issue'. Had the Titleist guy at a recent ball fitting confirm I present too much loft at impact with the irons (-2 down with driver though).

 

It's def not equipment issue, just swing related. You need to see a pro using video and trackman. I will be doing the same soon.

 

1 hour ago, jlukes said:

I know you probably don't want to hear this but your equipment likely isn't the culprit here. Without seeing your swing, I'd guess you are hanging back.

Doesn't really affect your driver much because you hit up on the ball and get good distance.

However, with your irons it forces you to flip through impact and you are adding loft and thus hitting it high and short.

But again, this is without seeing your swing and is just a shot in the dark.

Go see a teaching pro in your area for an actual breakdown of the what's going on and how to fix it.

Thanks!

Interesting thoughts. I thought about it, and I think this is the problem. I think that on the few shots that don't go too high, I have more shaft lean.   

It is difficult for me to find a pro. There is only one within 2 hours and I think he is a terrible teacher. He may be a very good player, but he doesn't understand how to communicate, and teach.  

 

Thanks again!

[Rtracymog]

Nippon 105 stiff,
mid launch, mid spin. 
 

Put a heavier shaft in. If the irons aren’t cast, try to strengthen them a degree or two. Those would be the quickest fixes without seeing much else.


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[SteddyGolf]

Thanks!
Interesting thoughts. I thought about it, and I think this is the problem. I think that on the few shots that don't go too high, I have more shaft lean.   
It is difficult for me to find a pro. There is only one within 2 hours and I think he is a terrible teacher. He may be a very good player, but he doesn't understand how to communicate, and teach.  
 
Thanks again!

It might not be optimal but there are quit a few guys out there specializing in virtual golf instruction. You might find it is a worth while investment. If you find the right guy or girl you could possibly face time while on the range or even the golf course.


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[GB13]

1 hour ago, SteddyGolf said:

 

 

It might not be optimal but there are quit a few guys out there specializing in virtual golf instruction. You might find it is a worth while investment. If you find the right guy or girl you could possibly face time while on the range or even the golf course.


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That is a great suggestion!

I will look into that, even if they can just take a quick look and give me a few drills. 

Thanks!

[perseveringgolfer]

8 hours ago, GB13 said:

Nippon 105 stiff,

mid launch, mid spin. 

 

same shaft as me- same issue as me

[perseveringgolfer]

5 hours ago, GB13 said:

That is a great suggestion!

I will look into that, even if they can just take a quick look and give me a few drills. 

Thanks!

Heres a decent video and quick drill that Crossfield says has very quick success............I'll try it today.

 

[Kanoito]

If your problem is the same as mine, then it's a swing issue... I'm flipping my wrists at impact thus increasing the loft.

[Shankster]

same shaft as me- same issue as me

Had those in the i200’s, same thing for me.

[null]

Nippon 105 launches high for most people. I know nippon says it's a mid mid shaft, but unless you have a really slow swing speed it's going to really launch the ball

[null]

If your problem is the same as mine, then it's a swing issue... I'm flipping my wrists at impact thus increasing the loft.

It's like a a 90% chance this is the main reason. Now is he flopping his wrists just to flip them or is he flipping them because he isn't shifting his weight properly and the wrist flip is the only way to get the club face to the ball. This is why he needs to see a pro.

[GB13]

12 minutes ago, jlukes said:

2 hours ago, Kanoito said:

If your problem is the same as mine, then it's a swing issue... I'm flipping my wrists at impact thus increasing the loft.

It's like a a 90% chance this is the main reason. Now is he flopping his wrists just to flip them or is he flipping them because he isn't shifting his weight properly and the wrist flip is the only way to get the club face to the ball. This is why he needs to see a pro.

I certainly am not holding back. My guess is I just flip my wrists because it feels like it should add power. I will work on holding off my release. 

[null]

2 minutes ago, GB13 said:

I certainly am not holding back. My guess is I just flip my wrists because it feels like it should add power. I will work on holding off my release. 

Get a DST Compressor 8 Iron.

Seriously. I had similar issues a few years ago and working with the Compressor really helped me with the wrist flipping

[GB13]

Just now, jlukes said:

Get a DST Compressor 8 Iron.

Seriously. I had similar issues a few years ago and working with the Compressor really helped me with the wrist flipping

Will do! Thanks!

[perseveringgolfer]

interesting- hadn't heard of this aid....

 

 

[Shankster]

I didn’t use a compressor but I made my own impact bag. Not as good of results as he compressor I bet, but they have to be good if Henrik, probably one of the best ball strikers uses it.

[null]

Butch Harmon uses it with most of his students, including Dustin Johnson

https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2015/03/10/training-aid.html

[perseveringgolfer]

1 hour ago, perseveringgolfer said:

interesting- hadn't heard of this aid....

 

 

Having watched this I think I prefer Mark Crossfields drill