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I've been inspired by two recent threads: @jlukes's swing overhaul, and @revkev's thread comparing lessons and fitting vs. self-teaching and off-the-rack clubs (these are both great threads that, if y

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Awesome man - looking forward to following along.  Self improvement is tough but you are going into it with a great perspective and attitude.   Other than the Strike Plan, are there any other resources you are using?

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Awesome man - looking forward to following along.  Self improvement is tough but you are going into it with a great perspective and attitude.   Other than the Strike Plan, are there any other resources you are using?

Like you, I've learned a ton about the swing from Mark Crossfield. He's not everyone's cup of tea (bad British pun not totally intended), but the content is there if you want it. On the more technical side, some of the videos that Trackman Maestro has produced are very helpful.

On the mental side of the game and double-bogey avoidance, I think Jon Sherman over at Practical Golf has a lot of good stuff to say.

On the short game, the books by Stan Utley and James Sieckmann are really helpful. I like Pelz for a lot of information, but I have moved strongly away from how he teaches the short game swing itself.

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3 minutes ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Like you, I've learned a ton about the swing from Mark Crossfield. He's not everyone's cup of tea (bad British pun not totally intended), but the content is there if you want it. On the more technical side, some of the videos that Trackman Maestro has produced are very helpful.

On the mental side of the game and double-bogey avoidance, I think Jon Sherman over at Practical Golf has a lot of good stuff to say.

On the short game, the books by Stan Utley and James Sieckmann are really helpful. I like Pelz for a lot of information, but I have moved strongly away from how he teaches the short game swing itself.

I am not a Pelz guy either.  If you are looking for some great short game and putting reads, I highly suggest Dave Stockton.  His Unconcious Putting and Unconcious Scoring books are just absolutely fantastic and really helped me simplify my wedge play and putting

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17 minutes ago, jlukes said:

I am not a Pelz guy either.  If you are looking for some great short game and putting reads, I highly suggest Dave Stockton.  His Unconcious Putting and Unconcious Scoring books are just absolutely fantastic and really helped me simplify my wedge play and putting

I've read his putting book. My take on it:

1. I really like it.

2. Like a lot of golf books, it's a single idea that could fit in an article stretched out over a whole book.

3. I'm glad I read it after I read a bunch of technical books. From my point of view, Stockton's "just relax and putt with your stroke" is best taken by those who've already done a ton of grinding over their putting. To go to Stockton right away, I think, could be a problem.

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Best of luck!. I'm hoping to reach single-digits in 2019 as well, but I'm starting out a little closer than you. I will say - based on my own experience - that it can definitely be done and not really even that difficult if you put in some time and have modest athletic ability. After seeing your average distance, I'm curious to know what swing speed looks like for you?

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I've read his putting book. My take on it:
1. I really like it.
2. Like a lot of golf books, it's a single idea that could fit in an article stretched out over a whole book.
3. I'm glad I read it after I read a bunch of technical books. From my point of view, Stockton's "just relax and putt with your stroke" is best taken by those who've already done a ton of grinding over their putting. To go to Stockton right away, I think, could be a problem.

Ha! No.2 is sooo true. I was getting mad as I read that one with fifteen long examples of someone not believing in themselves every single chapter. The story of Jack Nicklaus being told by a bogey golfer how to think on the green was great. A couple others really struck home with me about how down on my own game I was. But after that, tell me how to practice better! I can only handle so much talk about feelings.


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Good luck on your journey;  I think we are all pulling for you.   How many fairways are you hitting per round?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Good luck on your journey;  I think we are all pulling for you.   How many fairways are you hitting per round?

 

 

Game Golf tells me I'm hitting 55-60%. That's actually in line with what they have for a 5 handicap, but I'm 60 yards short, so the "accuracy" isn't even close to mitigating the distance.

@TR1PTIK, I don't have a Trackman measurement. The SuperSpeed measurements would lead me to guess that it's going to be somewhere between 90–100. So while I am trying to increase my speed, the other factor is that my strike is very poor, so that I'm not getting efficient use out of the speed I already have.

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I don’t have much to add but best of luck hitting single digits. On second thought, get a set of Launcher HB irons and be done with it.


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Good luck! This will be another good one to follow.

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That's a really solid plan. I can tell you that being a self taught single digit player is an achievable goal. I know of 2 on the forum who are self-taught single digits. @Jon Brittan and myself. I've never had a lesson and for myself, I feel that is the best path for my game. Taking a cursory look at your game and statistics, extra distance will help you immensely. You're plenty accurate and seem to have a good short game. Eliminating the "hip slide" will increase distance. By eliminating the hip slide myself, I've picked up 5mph and make much better contact. That coupled with SuperSpeed, I expect to see some distance gains and lower score. 

Good Luck! 

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That's a really solid plan. I can tell you that being a self taught single digit player is an achievable goal. I know of 2 on the forum who are self-taught single digits. [mention=68729]Jon Brittan[/mention] and myself. I've never had a lesson and for myself, I feel that is the best path for my game. Taking a cursory look at your game and statistics, extra distance will help you immensely. You're plenty accurate and seem to have a good short game. Eliminating the "hip slide" will increase distance. By eliminating the hip slide myself, I've picked up 5mph and make much better contact. That coupled with SuperSpeed, I expect to see some distance gains and lower score. 
Good Luck! 


Hey, I’m self taught off the rack barely single digit.

If you are swinging 90-100 you are about where I am swing speed wise. I was hitting 200-210 drives on average and mostly because of high spin and angle of attack. The Cobra rep put me in a 9.5 head and had me move the ball from inside my left heel to outside my left pinkie toe. I’m still very inefficient but those 2 things gave me about 20 more yards.


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Good luck.  I'll be following along with great interest.

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6 minutes ago, Wedgie said:

 


Hey, I’m self taught off the rack barely single digit.


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Okay, okay, I know three people on the forum who are self-taught single digits. And one of them (not saying who), is a little needy. 😜

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9 hours ago, hckymeyer said:

Make it four 🙂

 

Make it 5 😉

18 to 5 with no lessons or even much understanding of equipment or the technicalities of the swing. I learned it all from John Jacobs basic golf book Practical golf.

Since I learned about shafts and intricate technical swing motions in the last 10 years ......I got worse lol

 

Good luck @GolfSpy MPR I'll be following, and supporting, with interest.

 

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11 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

So while I am trying to increase my speed, the other factor is that my strike is very poor, so that I'm not getting efficient use out of the speed I already have.

If you haven't heard about it already, I strongly recommend a can of Dr. Scholl's foot powder spray to help you with strike. Spray it on the face, and you'll be able to see where strike location is. More importantly, you'll be able to LEARN strike location by sound and feel. If you are swinging in that 90-100 MPH range, you should definitely be getting a little more distance. I've lost speed over the last couple years, and now hover at the 100 MPH mark. Carry distances of 220+ are certainly possible at those speeds.

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Good luck in your endeavor Pastor! Personally, I'm hoping to get mine down by playing a lot more that I have been because of my membership. Oh, and a new driver. 😉

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