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41 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

So for those who formally resign their membership, what is the process they would have to do in order to reapply to get back on tour if they chose to?

So Jaime, it would have to be becoming eligible to hold a tour card again and applying for membership, so...

1) Won a tour event in the last two years, or a Major in the last five

2) Finish in the top 125 in FedEx Cup points for a season

3) Go through the Korn Ferry Tour and get one of the cards there

4) That special temporary membership route, but you'd need to make enough points to finish top 125 to regain your card and you'd be ineligible for the playoffs, like Zalatoris last season

Also worth noting, they'd like revert to the bottom of the priority list as well I would think if they got membership back and their exemption into a higher tier of priority expired in the meantime, so you might have to slum it out over the Fall series to up that ranking.

EDIT: Priority List rankings are here from the 21-22 media guide. Phil could be top of the eligibility chart until 2026. DJ fits Tier 3 until 2025 and both could use their one-time lifetime earning exemption. Other players would slot in behind, like Sergio, Louis, Na, Gooch, etc.

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Only because I want to see the train wreck

I have absolutely ZERO interest in it as a golf tournament.

No Laying Up did a great job talking about LIV on the their latest podcast.  Take out the Saudi stuff and sportswashing.  Just look at the product itself.  Who the hell wants to watch those guys play in whatever the hell spectacle they are trying to put on?  Reading the comments from the press conference today, it is blatantly obvious that this is all a glorified exhibition. 


For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

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And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names? 😱🤦‍♂️ note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

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37 minutes ago, jlukes said:

Only because I want to see the train wreck

I have absolutely ZERO interest in it as a golf tournament.

No Laying Up did a great job talking about LIV on the their latest podcast.  Take out the Saudi stuff and sportswashing.  Just look at the product itself.  Who the hell wants to watch those guys play in whatever the hell spectacle they are trying to put on?  Reading the comments from the press conference today, it is blatantly obvious that this is all a glorified exhibition. 


For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

Apparently the press conference was a real cluster this morning. Reporters and players were all asked to leave after someone asked a marginal question and the MC took offense. It got ugly. I dont know the question but tempers were on display.  

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I'll go on record as a 20% interested observer. I'm more interested in seeing how this plays out with the various Tours. Part of that has to do with my disdain for Greg Norman. He's a pompous ass. His countryman Wayne Grady said it best. Google it and you'll see. The quality of field is a joke. They all hide behind the veil of "growing the game". That's total BS. If it wasn't for the $$$, not a soul would have showed up. 

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1 hour ago, jlukes said:

For those who haven't been following along, here is a good recap of what has unfolded today.  It's almost too bad/hilarious to be true.

https://twitter.com/NoLayingUp/status/1534175865986330626?s=20&t=lQ1YRSTCfQxVb4PUEq8ZJQ

Wow, those team logos are really amateurish! I'd bet every single one of them violates the trademark of some minor league baseball team, though "Hy Flyers" might have come from Harry Potter.

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1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

It'll also be interesting to see how the individual player sponsors handle this, i.e. Michelson and KPMG. Will sponsors like this drop the players?

All of Phil's sponsors have already cut ties with him, although the Callaway deal is "on hold", not yet cut.

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Not a chance.  The more about the wealth fund that it's main backer (Saudi Public Investment Fund) the bigger my disgust.  

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1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names? 😱🤦‍♂️ note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

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It’s mostly social media channels for viewing. Highly unlikely to watch 

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1 hour ago, Siamese Moose said:

Wow, those team logos are really amateurish! I'd bet every single one of them violates the trademark of some minor league baseball team, though "Hy Flyers" might have come from Harry Potter.

They look like the logos you would find on the fantasy football websites for your fantasy team. 😲

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2 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names? 😱🤦‍♂️ note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

We know Phil wasn't involved with the names or his team would probably be called My Calves.  😁

They should have let the fans name the teams.....or maybe more accurately they should have let fans over 12 name the teams.

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13 minutes ago, Shapotomous said:

We know Phil wasn't involved with the names or his team would probably be called My Calves.  😁

They should have let the fans name the teams.....or maybe more accurately they should have let fans over 12 name the teams.

I wish they would have gone with FIGJAM, as explained in Shipnuck's book.

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7 minutes ago, Riverboat said:

Dustin Johnson estimated net worth is 50 million, and my guess is that's low. Family's best interests my a**. That's pure greed with no concern where the money is coming from, which is pure evil.

So is jealousy. How is yours or anyone else’s right to judge how much a person thinks they need for their family’s best interest? 

This is what is called F U money. He, his family, his kids families won’t have anything to worry about. Anyone not wanting to have financial success to the point that they dot have to worry about anything is silly.

When you and other dump your smartphones, non American made shoes, electronics and everything else that comes from countries with poor human rights then maybe there can something to say.

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I'll probably check it out Saturday morning if I don't have anything else going on. I'll be at work during the 1st 2 days.

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3 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

And while we're at it - has anyone seen the team names? 😱🤦‍♂️ note I used these emojis because I can't fiind one that communicates 'what were you thinking'

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-team-names-captains-phil-mickelson-dustin-johnson

Maybe Sergio picked up a sponsorship from the whiskey brand but this is a Saudi venture so maybe it’s the candy. 😂

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1 hour ago, Shapotomous said:

We know Phil wasn't involved with the names or his team would probably be called My Calves.  😁

They should have let the fans name the teams.....or maybe more accurately they should have let fans over 12 name the teams.

Yeah, I could see the names now - Putty McPuttface, My Little Wedgie, Deez Putts, Golf Balls Deep, Foregasm, Dustin's Johnsons, or my personal favorite ... "Fowler? I Hardly Knew Her" 😱😜

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This whole thing is going to be comical, sad, entertaining and hard to both watch and not watch. 

It is bringing a ton of discussion to the golf world... That's got to be good in some sense?

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I can't decide if I want to tune in or not... can't decide if it is FOMO or actual interest. The format does seem TV friendly. 

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1 hour ago, Riverboat said:

Dustin Johnson estimated net worth is 50 million, and my guess is that's low. Family's best interests my a**. That's pure greed with no concern where the money is coming from, which is pure evil.

So why do pros play golf? Should all of them who have enough to retire with an average lifestyle drop out or give up all their earnings? Seems exceedingly arrogant to presume the motivations and needs of someone else you’ve likely not met. And it’s funny how you don’t paint all those pros who have MORE than DJ as greedy, but he must be because he changed jobs. 
 

Personally, I’m not here to judge ANY of them. Let them decide for themselves what is most sensible. 

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Not enough interest in the field to do so and Im a little irked at DJ for bailing but its his life his choice.

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51 minutes ago, GrumpyGolf said:

Yeah, I could see the names now - Putty McPuttface, My Little Wedgie, Deez Putts, Golf Balls Deep, Foregasm, Dustin's Johnsons, or my personal favorite ... "Fowler? I Hardly Knew Her" 😱😜

Now that's funny - especially Dustin's team name. 

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7 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

So for those who formally resign their membership, what is the process they would have to do in order to reapply to get back on tour if they chose to?

Sounds like many don’t intend to return for tour  events only the majors that are private or USGA run. They took the ability of the PGA tour to suspend them out of the equation so other entities couldn’t follow suit with the recommendations. 
 

Sounds like we are going through the same thing all over again that happened in 1994 with Greg Norman and his tour. The LA times article is an interesting read https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-10-22-fi-59876-story.html

 

 

 

 

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On 6/6/2022 at 9:30 AM, LICC said:

The main initial threat is LIV poaching away the PGA Tour's top and thus most marketable players.

Competition is good for all businesses. Keeps everyone on their toes....

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42 minutes ago, GaDawg said:

Competition is good for all businesses. Keeps everyone on their toes....

This is not market based competition. LIV doesn’t care if it loses billions. 

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The pga tour has issues that it is going to have to figure out sooner then later.  There are the 4 majors,  the players,  and About 6 other events that are worth watching. Then there are basically 30 events that aren't good to watch. 

It sucks that the reason some issues are getting looked at is because of LIV. It also sucks that the PGA took such a hard line stance against it instead of working with it from the start to figure out how to add the $225 million to its current pool and into something that would work.

Watching indy cars split into cart and the irl was bad for everyone,  but eventually it came back better.  I'm guessing this plays out similarly. It is going to make every event that isn't a major feel diminished. And the majors that much bigger assuming that everyone (DJ. etc) gets in.

It's a bummer,  but it is happening

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Don't like Norman, don't like DJ, don't like Phil, detest Sergio...

Like Poulter, GMac and Westy... but they haven't done s*** in so long that it's probably nothing to watch...

So, not interested...

BUT perhaps watch a little bit of the first event:
a) I can play Centurion Club for free, so want to check it out, just haven't had the time to fly to London
b) watch the s*** show

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:taylormade-small: JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR :adams-small: Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S
:mizuno-small: JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge
:EVNROLL: ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0
MfleKCg.jpg Pro / 9dZCgaF.jpgH2NO Lite Cart Bag / :Clicgear: 3.0 / :918457628_PrecisionPro: NX7 Pro LRF

My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT

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