Alan Scalzi Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 So I just started back up playing alot more golf ( high school and college once a week) , now the same. Sum of the same playing group! We play from the whites most or all the time, but feel its zero fun always hitting a driver then a fairway wood from alot of par 4! Read an article that said take your average 5 iron and multiple it by 36 and that is were you should hit from! Thats seems most of the time either we play long or really really short nothing normal close to that number! Don't get me wrong a good weekend is one round and a great weekend is well 2 rounds! GolfSpy_APH, tdroma98, IndyBonzo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Alan Scalzi Link to comment
Popular Post RickyBobby_PR Posted July 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2023 Play from where you have fun and aren’t holding up pace of play vernt47, DrRob1963, roland49 and 20 others 22 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
Alan Scalzi Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 For us the pace is never the issue as we are not playing slow we are always waiting on others in front, have seen guys playing from the tips that should not be that slows the pace. Dweed, Woody83 and IndyBonzo 3 Quote Alan Scalzi Link to comment
Paul Hedrick Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Play from where you have fun and aren’t holding up pace of play Agree! IndyBonzo, Woody83 and Hacker Milt 3 Quote Bag C130, 14 way Cart Bag Driver TSR1 Fairway GBB Epic 5 Hybrid Epic Flash 4H Iron 2 iron Irons Launcher HB, 4 through PW Wedges CBX2, 54 & 60 degree Putter Seemore Si1 Putter Ball Titleist pro v1x Other Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Play from where you enjoy the game. I've moved back a set at my home course and moved up at others. I would agree driver then fairway would be a drag! IndyBonzo, tdroma98, Dweed and 1 other 4 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
gingerbeast87 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I go from the yellows, it's where I feel comfortable playing from and feels right for me. Dweed, Alan Scalzi, Garry Delaplane and 5 others 8 Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment
Popular Post GolfSpy_BEN Posted July 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2023 We play from the green (comparable to white tees at other courses) on my home course. Through years of trial and error, I find I get the most enjoyment out of 6000 +/- yard tracks and typically play the tees at any course that offers that yardage. When I was younger, pride played a part in always playing from the blue or back tees, but age and experience have cured me of all that. tdc1, Josh Parker, Garry Delaplane and 11 others 10 4 Quote WITB: D: QI-10 core 9* Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x 3w: Brnr mini driver 13.5 Kai Li White 70x 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 MKII Project X 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 MKII Project X 6.0 50°, 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: Special Select Del Mar Ball: Tour BX mindset Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment
Collar Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 The biggest issue facing “pace of play” is too many people playing from tees they have no business playing from. When will people learn that it’s based on skill and not age. IndyBonzo, Golf Dawg, GaDawg and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Cole McCain Posted July 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2023 On par 4s, after an average drive you should have 7 iron-wedge in your hand. Don't play tees that force you to always hit long irons into greens. Also don’t have a wedge into every green either. Hacker Milt, gingerbeast87, Woody83 and 8 others 11 Quote Driver Sim 2 Max 3wood R15 3 hybrid SLDR P790 4-AW 54, 60 Cleveland RTX Putter TaylorMade Daytona Link to comment
Wmyoungiv Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 When I was working as a golf architect, we designed courses in a way that everyone was using the same club or close to it for their second shot, on average. Most courses are designed with a specific landing area with no concern for what the person is using for their second shot. I would say if you’re always hitting driver then fairway wood, moving up a set may be more enjoyable for your distances. Garry Delaplane, MGoBlue100, Stereotype and 6 others 9 Quote Dr. Walter Young IV, PT, DPT Link to comment
Wmyoungiv Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Collar said: The biggest issue facing “pace of play” is too many people playing from tees they have no business playing from. When will people learn that it’s based on skill and not age. My experience is carts are the biggest issue with pace of play and the users not understanding ready golf. IndyBonzo, Brooky03, GolfSpy_BEN and 7 others 9 1 Quote Dr. Walter Young IV, PT, DPT Link to comment
gingerbeast87 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Wmyoungiv said: When I was working as a golf architect, we designed courses in a way that everyone was using the same club or close to it for their second shot, on average. Most courses are designed with a specific landing area with no concern for what the person is using for their second shot. I would say if you’re always hitting driver then fairway wood, moving up a set may be more enjoyable for your distances. I bet that was a rewarding and challenging job, did you get to try the courses you had designed once they were complete? What was the course you were most proud of, some of the members might have played on your work? Woody83, MyCatsMom, Wmyoungiv and 2 others 5 Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment
Wmyoungiv Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, gingerbeast87 said: I bet that was a rewarding and challenging job, did you get to try the courses you had designed once they were complete? What was the course you were most proud of, some of the members might have played on your work? Yep, usually the first ones to play the courses on the reopening day, or ceremonial reopening. I used to joke that I had the course record, until the next group came along. I can’t really claim anything cause I didn’t get to do a lot of design work, mostly grading. So in that regard, a course we built in China, 27 holes, skydoor golf club. I didn’t get to play that one, wasn’t finished when I left. Renovation work that some may have played are The Waters Edge CC, CC of Orangeburg, or The Reserve at Pawley’s Island. I did get to do the exploration work of what Pinehurst #2 would look like if it was taken back to original style and Coore/Crenshaw used it as a base. Woody83, MuniGolfer, GaDawg and 3 others 5 1 Quote Dr. Walter Young IV, PT, DPT Link to comment
Ding-dong Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I keep seeing this, play to your distance and to be honest, I agree. My old course had a lot of senior members, yet there were lots of holes with some big carries. You just knew these old boys were stuffed from the get go. I loved this course though, it was a about placement and reading the geography. My current course isn’t long at 6043 yards it has 1 par 5 and 4 par 4s over 410 yards. One particular par 4 is 440 yards but you tee up 5 yards below the fairway ( if that makes sense) it’s a bit of a thump, and a bunker at 220-230 is a nuisance. The course really is set up for your average good player with a driver carry of 230 yards … so it will catch them out. The long boys have no issues. Apart from heather and generally bad lies ..so distance can be small but the course can still be unpleasant. Garry Delaplane, Woody83, Dweed and 2 others 5 Quote Epic speed - GPLB in long flex Ping 425 max 3 wood/ Callaway Rogue 5w PXG 7 wood/ Ping g425 Crossover 3 Ping G430 irons 5- 46 degree (+2 degree loft) ( graphite shafts) Ping glide 4 , 50,56 Vokey SM6 60 degree M grind yes Donna or maybe a centre shaft white hot 2ball assorted updates/ stand ins stored safely for the call up Still adjusting the set up Link to comment
Brooky03 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 To the pace of play point that's often made, I don't think tees are the big issue. It's the, 'search the woods for 5 minutes, find ball, get rangefinder, triple check it, take 3 practice swings, duff, repeat' that seems to slow play down, in my experience. Garry Delaplane, Ben_Howell34, Woody83 and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment
Bowmanmw12 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 At my home course, the further you move up, the tighter the tee shots get. I find I play better from further back just because there is more room to miss. I’m not particularly long off the tee either. I just find it more difficult to thread the ball through a dog leg. Javs, Woody83, IndyBonzo and 2 others 5 Quote PXG Gen 4 driver, wood, and hybrid PXG 0311T Gen 3 irons Vokey SM8 wedges Odyssey stroke lab putter Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 For those kinds stuck with what tees to play do you ever play split tees? Or do you feel there should be another set of tees at your course? Woody83, Placasse61, Garry Delaplane and 2 others 5 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
Usmcgyrene Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I do it by score more or less. Most courses, I play from the whites. I'm an older guy and I've had my spine reassembled a few times. I don't hit it that far. My score hovers around 80. If I play a new course and can't get close to that, I'll move up a tee. SirPrised, Hacker Milt, GaDawg and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0311 Gen6 TT Riptide CB 60 s 3 Wood: Ping G430 max Alta CB 65 s Hybrids: Ping G430 19, 22, 26 Alta CB 70 s Irons: Mizuno JPX923 forged 6-Gap TT DG 105 s Wedges: Mizuno S23 54, 58 KBS HI-REV 2.0 115 Putter: Scotty Cameron SS Golo 6.5 Ball: Vice Pro Plus Bag: Sun Mountain C-130S Electronics: Bushnell Tour V6 shift, Golf Buddy aim 11 Link to comment
Tallwood88 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I agree with some other posters here. Play from where you are comfortable playing from without holding things up. If you can't get to most par 4's in two, move up. Or, if a set of tees has you hitting over or around penalty areas on a lot of your tee shots and you are in constant trouble, move up. I'm thinking of one course we play occasionally that the white tees (6,150 yds.) have you going over significant water or marshes on 14 holes. All it takes is one player in the group to have a bad day and it will turn into a real long round. Moving to the gold tees has you avoiding most of that. Some courses are long, flatter and with wide fairways, some short with tight fairways, hills, doglegs, lots of bunkers and penalty areas. On courses I'm not familiar with I look at the slope and rating first, yards second. Woody83, IndyBonzo and Garry Delaplane 3 Quote Link to comment
Shep28209 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 If you do not hit your driver more than 220 yards you should play about 5900 - 6100 yards. A consistent 200 yard driver is 5700 yards and a 240 driver 6300 yards. The scale goes up and down to these proportions. This data is from an article published by the USGA and PGA of America, Quote IndyBonzo, Woody83, Placasse61 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
EvilIncarnate Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 No mention of age group? I was told that when you are 55 and older, and can no longer consistently drive the ball (at least), 240 yards, move up to the senior tees (5700-6000). But, I think, more importantly, look closely at slope and course rating? There are still gold tees that slope in excess of 131 slope, and that's plenty of golf course for me. Quote Christopher J Kim Link to comment
Honhme Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I have found that by moving up a set of tees, I have a better chance of getting on in regulation. Moved up from 6100 to around 5900 yards. BobBC78 and B_R_A_D_Y 2 Quote Just purchased the new Ping G430 HL (High Launch) line: Driver 3 & 5 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid. 6 - PW, 45, 50 and 4.0 Glide 56* SW. New Alta Quick 45 g shafts. Link to comment
Dave73nl Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Here in The Netherlands you have a golf app where you registrate you're qualifying scores and it suggests a playing tee for you. I recently start to follow those recommendations to play from blue instead of from yellow and it's just as much fun JeremyD, B_R_A_D_Y and GolfSpy_BEN 3 Quote Driver: 0811 XF GEN4 10,5 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Blue 60 regular shaft. Hybrids: FLY-Z 3/4/5 , VLCT ALTUS R-flex 75gr. shaft. Irons: Speedzone One Length Irons 5-GW - KBS Tour 90 Regular shaft. Wedges: ST8TS Tour T Wedges 52-56-60 + 1,5cm KBS regular shaft. Putter: MLA Tour XDream 'Black Edition' Superstroke 3.0 slim (standard 34") Ball's: Drive personalised ball's for the moment till i can find a better deal Rangefinder: Garmin Fenix 6X Pro, ZIYOUHU Chinese laser, Garmin Approach X40., SwingU app. Privileged to been testing the MLA Tour XDream BLACK EDITION SuperStroke 3.0 slim AND SwingU app for MyGolfSpy! Link to comment
JeremyD Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 All great follow up questions above for you to consider. Using your math (5 iron x 36, and my 5 iron is lofted like most 6 irons now adays), I'd be playing 6600-6800. While that's cool, I prefer 6200-6400. Are you playing with handicaps? I love that I have a course handicap off my index for every tee, and not just the farthest 2 back. are you playing matches, and it only seems fair to play off the same tees? If you're playing for fun, tee closer. vandyland 1 Quote When my wife asked if I wanted to leave Maine and move to where she grew up, I couldn't say no to Pinehurst, NC. I honestly don't spend much money on golf equipment, but I'm constantly reading reviews in case I ever get ready to buy I swing left handed and have been the State of Maine Left Hander's champion since 1997, the last year they held the tournament. I'm currently a 7.1 handicap. Trying to get lower, but my gut gets in the way. WITB Driver: Epic speed 9 degree Irons: 990's S300 Stiff shafts bought when I was in college. (Received a personal use discount, otherwise would've stuck with my Hogan Edge's) 3 Wood: Epic speed 15 degree or PT15 52/56/60 Z Spin wedges (heck of a deal $100 for all 3 at Dick's in 2013) Putter: OG Rossie Link to comment
JimmyV77 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I've always known comps Gold, blokes White, seniors (65+) Red and the gals off Blue regardless of handicap. I have played with a scratch lady who played blue 1st 9 and then with us off Whites (back 9). Either side she walloped us by 8 strokes...... makes no difference to me as long as I'm not waiting an age for you to get off the putting surface. If you cannot hole 3 putts pick up, your hole is blown anyway....... Quote Driver: Cleveland Launcher 3 Wood: TaylorMade M4 Rescue: TaylorMade Burner Irons: Wilson Staff D9 Forged Wedges: Adams 54; Cleveland 60 Putter: Tour Edge Double Flow Link to comment
mikeva Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I am 79 years old and no longer have the distance (with any club) the way I used to. I was playing a red-green combo at my club and was consistently in the 96-105 range per round. Going to the green tees - a change of 1.3 on rating and 1 on slope seemed like a good idea in spite of the advice that the green tees were for folks 80+ years old. I am now posting rounds in the 80-90 range. Even managed to have a great round and shot my age. Most importantly I am really enjoying golf again. So, play from where you can have the most fun. The handicap system will take care of things if you are playing someone. Shapotomous, CrazyGolfNut and GolfSpy_BEN 3 Quote Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I do it kind of differently. As i'll look up the course before I play on GHIN and play from the most forward set where my handicap doesn't drop. For example this is the course I'm playing next weekend. I have a 5.1 index so from the blue tees I am a 6, but from the whites I am a 1. They also have black where I'd be a 10. So I am going to play the blue tees. GolfSpy_BEN, Shapotomous and Gusset 3 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
BobBC78 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Cole McCain said: On par 4s, after an average drive you should have 7 iron-wedge in your hand. Don't play tees that force you to always hit long irons into greens. Also don’t have a wedge into every green either. This ^^^^^^ I moved up to the "senior" (gold) tees at my home course last year because I got tired of hitting fairway wood of hybrid for my second shot on all but two of our par 4s from the white tees. Edited July 10, 2023 by BobBC78 clarity B_R_A_D_Y 1 Quote Ping G400 Max 10.5* - Kuro Kage HBP Black Gen 2, 44.5" length Ping G425 SFT 5W (19*) - Alta CB Slate SR flex Ping G430 5H (26*), 6H (30*) and 7H (34*)- Alta CB 70 regular flex Ping G710 8i-W - Recoil 80 F3 shaft (1) Cleveland CBX4 50* and 58*, Smart Sole 4C - Recoil 95 F3 shaft Odyssey Original 2-Ball White Hot counterbalanced (lead tape in the head, Super Stroke grip with 50-gram weight) Other: Vice Pro or Maxfli Tour; Shot Scope X5; True Linkswear; Callaway Org 7 bag; Clicgear 3.5+ Currently doing a Member Review on Argolf's Pendragon XL Broomstick putter. Link to comment
Big moose Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Brooky03 said: To the pace of play point that's often made, I don't think tees are the big issue. It's the, 'search the woods for 5 minutes, find ball, get rangefinder, triple check it, take 3 practice swings, duff, repeat' that seems to slow play down, in my experience. I absolutely agree with you. If I hit one in the woods or an area with high grass I take a quick look and if I don't see my ball I drop one take my penalty stroke and move on. They make balls every day, drop one and move on and stop slowing down the whole golf course over a dam golf ball. B_R_A_D_Y and Brooky03 2 Quote Frank musolino Link to comment
tdc1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Absolutely play the tees that offer you the chance to get the most enjoyment from your game. I used to play regularly with a former low (2.0) handicapper who, at age 80, insisted on playing the same tees he used to. The rounds became one long complaint about how he couldn't play like he used to. Suggestions that he move up a tee box (or two) were always met with disdain -- "You were never a good player so you don't understand." He plays by himself these days. Also, ask your course if they can put together a set of split/combo tees. Your state golf association has most of the data needed for this to happen (assuming your home course has been rated in the past few years). GolfSpy_BEN and Beakbryce 2 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment
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