Popular Post Dooby Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Is it a course that puts you in positions to use a variety of clubs more frequently? Is it simply the conditions and cost? Maybe it is reachable par 5s or driveable par 4s? Are you a fan of certain course architectures or designs and routing? What to you, makes a golf course "good" or even "great"? Usmcgyrene, BNewton51, MGoBlue100 and 15 others 13 5 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS (9.0) BRNR Mini Driver (13.5) Ai Smoke Max 5 Wood (18) or Apex X Forged Utility 2 iron (18) Apex X Forged CB (4-6) Rickie Fowler MB (7-PW) Wedges: 52|08F , 56|12D , 60|10S , SM9 Jet Black Putter: 2015 Queen B 6 Ball: Still Searching for My Perfect Gamer Previously Tested: BirdieBall 2-In-1 Putting/Hitting Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Cost and variety... Good coffee helps also. Really that's I'll I'm looking for. EnderinAZ, bens197, vandyland and 14 others 11 4 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tony@CIC Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 A course that makes you think more about strategy then just bombing the ball, is well kept and a friendly staff. Spacing between groups is an important criteria as well for me. We were with some friends a couple of weeks ago, playing at one of our 'sister' courses. They were spacing the groups 6 minutes apart - seemed like we were waiting on every tee box and the group behind us was getting impatient and hitting balls close to us. The Marshall had come around several times telling people to move along more quickly. Very frustrating round. tdroma98, vandyland, Javs and 13 others 14 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EMacK1961 Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 A. Can I walk it? Does the course allow for transitions from hole to hole that aren't 200 or more yards away? B. Is it a good challenge? Fair but tough C. Is it interesting? A mix of holes/views that aren't all fades or draws. Byrnzee, vandyland, GolfSpy_SHARK and 14 others 17 Quote "It's only rock and roll...but I like it." - Mick Jagger "It is not the will to win that matters-Everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." - Paul "Bear" Bryant "If anything is worth doing, it is worth doing with all your heart." - the Buddha What's in the bag: Driver Taylormade Qi10 Standard, 3W Callaway RazrFit Extreme, 5W - Cobra Fly Z XL, Wilson D9 4 hybrid, Heat II Single Length Irons 5-SW, Snake Eyes 60' LW What's on my feet: Squarz/Under Armour Charged Draw 2 Bag Boy Quad XL Push Cart w/Bag Boy CB15 bag Where I play: Baja Country Club - Ensenada, Baja Califorinia, Mexico/Bajamar Oceanfront Golf Resort, Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob Person Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) As both a newb, and a budget conscious golfer, I look for cost, condition, and challenge. (Not challenging!) I'm fortunate enough to have courses relatively close by (15 minutes up to 45 minutes away) average round is from $25-60. What makes it great, is if I enjoyed the overall experience of that particular course. Edited January 13 by Rob Person bassman, tony@CIC, EMacK1961 and 12 others 14 1 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TJ Hall Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) Different holes, not just a straight par 4 for everything. Something challenging and makes you think around the course. And lastly, cost. Edited January 13 by TJ Hall ejgaudette, BNewton51, Willie T and 9 others 12 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CFreddie Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Good question - my favorite type of course is one that can challenge both new and experienced players. For example - courses with wide fairways that allow the newer golfer to keep it in play, but still push strategy for better players to hit to certain spots. One that comes to mind is Sheep Ranch at Bandon - huge, wide open fairways but there is def a “preferred” path / strategy for each hole. On the opening hole, you can take many different approaches to the par 5, but the better route is down the right (at least according to my caddy). Seeing these pictures really makes me miss Bandon…I need to get back there! Besides that, how well the course is maintained is important, even if it’s more expensive to play. Ben_Howell34, Preeway, bbrodigan and 10 others 11 2 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cnosil Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 I have seen this question before and my answer is a definitive I don't know. I enjoy just being outside, some socializing, and hitting golf shots. Maybe I am fortunate but I haven't found a course that I wouldn't play again Things that disappoint are bad tee boxes, fairways, and greens and by bad I mean lots of bare spots. Maybe if I was scratch or better and hit fairway, green, and 2 putted or less on every hole I'd have a different thought. MGoBlue100, tdc1, Preeway and 14 others 13 3 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MGoBlue100 Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: I enjoy just being outside, some socializing, and hitting golf shots. Exactly. If it’s got tees and greens (and sometimes barely tees) I’m good with it. Let’s play! cnosil, Preeway, Willie T and 9 others 12 Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Gen 2 0211 15* 3W Mitsubishi Tensei Raw Blue 65-S Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex (These two are gonna fight it out in early "24 to see who stays in the bag...) Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Hoofer Camo Stand Bag Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Middler Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) Condition, layout and variety. I’d much rather play a meh layout in good condition than a great layout in poor condition, especially greens. I also like a mix of challenges - I don’t like courses where every hole is a back breaker, nor do I like a course full of easy holes. There should be some hazards, e.g. I don’t like courses where there’s essentially no rough, or too few traps. Cost is a factor, but IME (not always but) you get what you pay for more often than not. Most expensive courses are expensive for a reason. Edited January 13 by Middler HBaum, Rob Person, Albatrass and 9 others 9 2 1 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize Evnroll EV5.3 Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, Payntr X 001 F (Mesh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kenny B Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) I've played some nice higher end courses and dog tracks. An interesting layout is preferable; not just straight, back-and-forth holes. I prefer to play courses that have views rather than ones that wind through housing developments. However, I also enjoy courses with houses if they are interesting and far enough away to not be part of the course!! Here I am at one of my favorite courses with houses in Indian Canyons South Course in Palm Springs... 1950's houses that are set back to where they are visible but not really in play. Interesting, I went back through my old photos of our rounds and most all of them are on courses with no houses, or ones where they are not visible. Being here in the PNW we have a lot of courses that are in the mountains and spread out with great views. It's nice being outdoors, and these courses are my favorites. Here is Bill @fixyurdivot at Indian Canyon GC in Spokane WA at our PNW MGS Outing... EDIT: Notice the similar names of the courses!! Edited January 13 by Kenny B StrokerAce, hoppman, Subdiver1 and 8 others 11 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A great course is a course with character. I don’t care about the length or hazards, but the layout design and thought that was put into the layout. For example, Wild Horse (in NE) has all four par 3s going in all four directions. You will get different wind each time. The par 5s are all reachable in two with good drives but the risk/reward component is always in play due to bunkers. I don’t like a course with a lot of hazards as that seems like the lazy approach to making a course hard. They serve a purpose and can be very functional but sometimes they can exist just for the sake of existing. And finally, I like a course that makes me hit a variety of shots into greens and might even have several holes where you shouldn’t hit driver. I like courses that are both challenging and fun. vandyland, Albatrass, Willie T and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrnzee Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A good golf course to me is one that you never want to leave. Challenging enough to keep things interesting, but not too punishing so you can still enjoy yourself. I'm willing to pay top dollar for certain courses, but a good course to me is one where the cost is justified by the experience and the conditions, not just for a famous name. I prefer a course where the holes are all unique and interesting as opposed to a cookie cutter design. These type of courses keep you coming back to play them again and again because you'll never get bored when you have many different ways to play them. Willie T, vandyland, BNewton51 and 6 others 9 Quote Current WITB: Bag: MV2 Golf Bag Driver: G425 Max 9.0º, Graphite Design Tour AD VR-6S Fairway: TSR2 3 wood 15º, Ventus Red 7S, TSR1 5 wood 18º, Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 65S Driving Iron: G425 Crossover 2-iron 18º, Aldila Rogue 95TS Graphite Irons: MP-54 (4-P), Project X 6.0S Wedges: 50.09 SB, 54.11 SB, 58.11 SB Putter: California Del Mar, 34.5 Sweet Rollz "Safari" Midsize Grip Ball: Tour B XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooby Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 One thing I’ve learned over the past year is I don’t enjoy courses that have an abundance of blind tee shots. I don’t need tee shots that are easy or overly comfortable but I hate playing a course where I constantly feel like it’s a “hit it in this direction and hope for the best on the other side of the hill”. And then one thing I’ve learned to value is the variety in par 3s and variety overall. I seem to play my best golf and have the most fun when I use more clubs in my bag than not and I think par 3s play a role in that. If each of the par 3s is a different club/distance, I think that makes it more fun overall. Similar to what some have said in this thread, courses that require strategy are more engaging for me. Golf is a physical and a mental game and I like when both are required. Preeway, Josh Parker, Albatrass and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS (9.0) BRNR Mini Driver (13.5) Ai Smoke Max 5 Wood (18) or Apex X Forged Utility 2 iron (18) Apex X Forged CB (4-6) Rickie Fowler MB (7-PW) Wedges: 52|08F , 56|12D , 60|10S , SM9 Jet Black Putter: 2015 Queen B 6 Ball: Still Searching for My Perfect Gamer Previously Tested: BirdieBall 2-In-1 Putting/Hitting Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Kenny B said: I prefer to play courses that have views rather than ones that wind through housing developments. However, I also enjoy courses with houses if they are interesting and far enough away to not be part of the course!! You will see both at Kingsmill. The "interesting" one is the house where John Hinkley used to live. Most meet your desired far enough away to not be part of the course, but a bad shot can hit one. Rob Person, Kenny B, BNewton51 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, cnosil said: You will see both at Kingsmill. The "interesting" one is the house where John Hinkley used to live. Most meet your desired far enough away to not be part of the course, but a bad shot can hit one. I don't hit bad shots. Rob Person, BNewton51, Preeway and 3 others 2 4 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinksgolfFever Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 So subjective but for me there are a few things I prefer and a few that are more requirements. required: Cost/value p.s. Pebble is 30 minutes away, I think it’s overpriced @600+. Value is directly related to condition, if the course is over seeding/bunker repairs, reduced rates should be available. Is it appealing/scenery, I love being outside and want to enjoy what I’m walking around. Group spacing/Marshalls on duty, 6 minute tee times are not fun, especially with slow players. Regardless of skill you should know how to play time efficient. The preferences: Variably challenging for all players. If the above are met but the course isn’t very challenging, I’ll play with fewer clubs, irons only. Friendly/knowledgable staff- your at a golf course, be happy Preeway, Albatrass, ejgaudette and 6 others 8 1 Quote B_LinksGolf "Any day golfing is better than a day in the office" What's in the Bag: Driver: Callaway Rogue ST 3diamond LS: Tensei raw blue 65g stiff 3w/5w: Callaway Rogue ST LS: Tensei raw blue 65g stiff 4i-6i: Callaway '24 Apex CB/Modus 3 130 X-stiff 7i-10i: Callaway '24 Apex MB/Modus 3 130 X-stiff Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw (matte black) 50ºs-grind/54ºs-grind/58ºz-grind Putter: Callaway AI-one Jailbird mini DB 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 At this stage in my life, I don’t want to spend more than 4:15 playing 18. Open times that aren’t stacked really does it. A local public I played often in HS was recently sold and times are 7 minutes apart. Needless to say they’re on Groupon weekly. Besides that, I’d like to play somewhere with a variety of holes. That’s really it. Usmcgyrene, Josh Parker, BNewton51 and 6 others 9 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdiver1 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Great topic. Some great pics shared too. I agree, I love being outdoors and enjoy the scenery and relative peace a golf course provides. Funny how everyone had elements that we can agree upon, and then there are the particular perspectives; geeze it almost sounds like we are all individuals, but still share commonality #1, but not isolated is condition. I say not isolated because, as @Middlerand @LinksgolfFever mentioned, cost is also tied to that for me as some places have gotten ridiculous. Especially when conditions and pace of play get factored in. #2, pace of play; again that is coupled, though to a lesser degree, to $$. Aside from those two considerations, i agree with other points already mentioned. As an aside on "conditions" I consider bunker maintenance is a big one for me. For me, that detail speaks volumes about how serious a course is about maintenance and overall conditions. Challenge, scenery, playability, check. Hope you all find a great venue this week. Cheers. tdc1, ejgaudette, BNewton51 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver - Ping G400 9°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 65 gr. FW - TM M3 3-wood 15°, Project-X HZRDUS Red 6.0 75 gr. mid-spin Hybrid - TM M4 19°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 85 gr. HY Irons - TM P790, 3-PW, Oban CT-115, PXG 311 P Gen 6 Wedges - Mizuno T20 Ion blue 52/9 & 56/14, N.S. Pro Modus3 S-flex Putter - Evnroll ER2 Garsen Max grip Getting a grip - oversize Winn DryTacs and Bionic gloves Ball - ProV1, AVX, Maxfli Tour, PXG Bag(s)/cart - Vessel Player III Rovic RV1S and Alphard V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 1/13/2024 at 11:06 AM, cnosil said: I have seen this question before and my answer is a definitive I don't know. I'm in the same boat, I don't have specific requirements. I'll separate the staffing and pace of play stuff out, that's separate from the "course" to me. I like good conditions, variety in the layout (left/right/straight, long/short, uphill/downhill, harder/easier, wide/narrow), conditions and variety are probably the two most important factors. I prefer golf courses that are not lined with housing, and prefer courses that are walkable, but neither one is critical. I like an occasional quirky hole, and a blind shot, but not a steady diet. I think in the end this is kind of "I know it when I see it". Albatrass, Preeway, BNewton51 and 5 others 8 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Steve Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Sometimes i like a challenge. Variety of holes… dogleg left &/or right that you cannot cut. Maybe a dogleg that you can cut but there is severe penalty for being short and danger in going too far or off line. Risk reward drivable par 4’s that could be an easy par if you lay up or a bogey/double bogey if you go for it and are not perfect. Some Holes that force you to leave driver in the bag. Some holes that “can” be played with a straight ball but are designed for a draw or fade and if your only ball flight bends the wrong way it sucks to be you. other times i want wide open where it doesn’t matter how far off line you are you’ll find your ball and have a shot towards the hole 90% of the time. Rob Person, BNewton51, Albatrass and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMgolfnut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 1/13/2024 at 11:02 AM, CFreddie said: Besides that, how well the course is maintained is important, even if it’s more expensive to play. Well-maintained does not always mean "green". There is such a thing as too much water; not only are the fairways and greens soggy, but the grass gets stressed, and it makes it a drag when your drive plugs at 190 instead of rolling out to 210. A little bit of brown turf is not a bad thing. Turf scientists (yes there is such a thing) will tell you that a lush green fairway (or lawn for that matter) is on the brink of disaster, and requires a lot more care. I don't mind playing on dormant grass in the winter because you get some roll. Now if the options are grass and bare dirt... that's not a good thing. Josh Parker, ejgaudette, Willie T and 4 others 7 Quote Obsessed with chasing the dimpled orb. More about me: WITB type stuff Fit For Golf tester 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Appreciate when a course has been designed to be walkable, and any course that asks me to use most of my clubs. Preeway, Albatrass, ejgaudette and 4 others 7 Quote Driver : Rogue ST Max LS, 10.5° loft, MCA TENSEI AV White 65g, Stiff flex (44.5", Draw setting) 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Utility: 699 Pro V2 Utility Satin, 18° loft, HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80g, 5.5 flex Irons: T200 6i-GW, 27°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.25”, 1° upright) Wedges: Indi FLX S-Grind, 52°/56°/60° lofts, Dynamic Gold Spinner 115g, Wedge flex Putter: King Vintage Sport 60, SteelFiber P125 shaft (34"), Quad Tour Taper grip Bag: Ultralight Pro, Ski Patrol/Black Push Cart: Nitron, Black/Red Rangefinder: Bushnell Tour V5 Shift 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sugar Golf Balls (Final Review Posted) 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sycamore 009 Mini Putter (Final Review Posted) 2024 Unofficial Review: The "Putting Thing" by WhyGolf -TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, ILMgolfnut said: Well-maintained does not always mean "green". There is such a thing as too much water; not only are the fairways and greens soggy, but the grass gets stressed, and it makes it a drag when your drive plugs at 190 instead of rolling out to 210. A little bit of brown turf is not a bad thing. Turf scientists (yes there is such a thing) will tell you that a lush green fairway (or lawn for that matter) is on the brink of disaster, and requires a lot more care. I don't mind playing on dormant grass in the winter because you get some roll. Now if the options are grass and bare dirt... that's not a good thing. Totally agree! Albatrass and BNewton51 2 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMgolfnut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 58 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Totally agree! To dive down a little deeper, a huge part of the mounting expense of golf is that players see those emerald green fairways on TV with the fancy cross-hatch mowing patterns, and demand that for their home courses. Well, the Tour and host courses are spending boatloads of money to get them that way, and your home course has to do the same. Which gets passed along to us in club dues and green fees. Then they often have to back off after the tournament and let the turf recover. Josh Parker, BNewton51, vandyland and 1 other 4 Quote Obsessed with chasing the dimpled orb. More about me: WITB type stuff Fit For Golf tester 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 1/13/2024 at 8:51 AM, Dooby said: Is it a course that puts you in positions to use a variety of clubs more frequently? Is it simply the conditions and cost? Maybe it is reachable par 5s or driveable par 4s? Are you a fan of certain course architectures or designs and routing? What to you, makes a golf course "good" or even "great"? Great thread topic! Let me get my caveats out there first: (1) It is good to have a variety of golf course styles, types, etc. Something for everyone (2) This is just what I prefer to play (described below) not what I think EVERYONE should agree is a great golf course I prefer W I D E R golf courses (think landing zones or fairways at least 50 yds wide) with more of the challenge or demand placed on the approach shot rather than off the tee. I like golf courses that give you OPTIONS off the tee rather than "hit it here or else" or courses that give you an easy out of the tee vs a challenging line of the tee that will give you a reward. I think a variety of hole templates (short 4s, long 4s, doglegs, redans, etc) keeps things interesting. Not a ton of OB or blocked out shots. Golf courses that fit this description: Pursell Farms (Farm Links), Mammoth Dunes, We-Ko-Pa Saguaro, Tobacco Road, Kapalua Plantation Golf courses that are the antithesis of this: Harbour Town, Caledonia Golf and Fish Club, Colonial, Sahalee Country Club, many other Florida coast residential courses Ben_Howell34, BNewton51, Willie T and 3 others 6 Quote STZ 230 9.5* PinHawk SLF 16* STZ 230 Hybrid 21.25* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMgolfnut Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 12 minutes ago, vandyland said: I prefer W I D E R golf courses (think landing zones or fairways at least 50 yds wide) with more of the challenge or demand placed on the approach shot rather than off the tee. I like golf courses that give you OPTIONS off the tee rather than "hit it here or else" or courses that give you an easy out of the tee vs a challenging line of the tee that will give you a reward. I think a variety of hole templates (short 4s, long 4s, doglegs, redans, etc) keeps things interesting. Not a ton of OB or blocked out shots. on all counts BNewton51, Albatrass and d0m41n 3 Quote Obsessed with chasing the dimpled orb. More about me: WITB type stuff Fit For Golf tester 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Flat tee boxes, properly cut holes and decent green surfaces are my Top 3. Beyond that, it’s nice to have features that encourage creative shot selection. I can still have fun at a course that is straight, flat and featureless but those designs don’t exactly inspire creativity. Certain aspects of conditioning can also play a role in having some latitude to play different shot types. Problematic drainage, for example, can discourage a whole class of shot options. TJ Hall, Willie T, Albatrass and 1 other 4 Quote PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 11 hours ago, BallsLeon said: Appreciate when a course has been designed to be walkable, and any course that asks me to use most of my clubs. I’ll double down on that. I really like courses that will find a way to make me hit approach shots from a variety of distances. I don’t want to hit 9i or less on every single hole except maybe for a par3 or two. BallsLeon, BNewton51 and TJ Hall 3 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I enjoy the beauty of the course and the nature associated with it. If a course winds in and out of housing developments, housing on both sides of every hole, I’ll pass or play it once and not go back. Courses that require thought, ball placement, a variety of clubs for approaches have my attention and I look forward to playing it. I also prefer a variety of distances on the par 3’s. Don’t give me 4 holes that are between 165 and 175 yards. Courses along highways also bug me. Who wants to hear truck traffic while trying to enjoy your round. I also expect decent playing conditions. Tee boxes with grass, greens without bare spots, and hopefully bunkers with sand in them (not hard pack under 1/4” of loose sand). So many nice courses are out there at reasonable rates. I typically pass on the over $200 experiences. It just isn’t that nice. Having played around 200 golf courses, for every $200 plus round I played I can put up 20 courses just as nice at a fraction of the price. jkimbrell0, BNewton51, Willie T and 3 others 6 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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