lowest spin head?

[Chip Strokes]

i’m currently using a ping g425 lst. it’s pretty good for me, but i’m spinning it way too much. 

teed high, teed low, ball forward, ball back, i’ve tried it all and i can’t get the spin down below 3,000 no matter what i do. 

my delivery numbers are good. pretty neutral path, maybe 1-2* in to out, 2-3* up, with my main miss being a block where i don’t close the face. 

i’ve been on the sim plenty, and even the balls i middle up are spinning at 3200-3300.  i know i’m leaving 20-30 yards on the table compared to a shot that spins 2400-2500. 

shaft is a ventus black 7tx and i play the bridgestone b x  

what’s the lowest spinning head out there? 

i’m thinking of trying the cobra ltdx ls this winter. any other suggestions?

[rkj427]

Titleist TSR4 is low spin, and the Callaway ??? Triple Diamond as well.

I am not familiar with Callaway products, but there should be information available online, or someone else may also add to it.

[cnosil]

4 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

what’s the lowest spinning head out there? 

i’m thinking of trying the cobra ltdx ls this winter. any other suggestions?

Based on memory of most wanted testing,  the Cobra drivers are probably my vote for lowest spinning;  I struggle to get enough spin with them.  

 

Have you tried delofting the club?  

 

[Chip Strokes]

22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Have you tried delofting the club?

it’s a 9* head set to the big minus position, which puts it at about 7-7.5*

[cnosil]

11 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

it’s a 9* head set to the big minus position, which puts it at about 7-7.5*

Wondering if you are not optimally delivering the club. 

https://blog.trackmangolf.com/spin-loft

 

 

 

 

[RickyBobby_PR]

What is your launch angle?

Spray the face and see where you are making contact. I’m betting it’s low on the face which if going to increase spin regardless of whether you go to a lower spin head.

If so it’s a swing issue not a head design issue

[ejgaudette]

Taylormade also drivers usually sit on the lower end of spin, SIM2 or Stealth Plus, plus you can get the 8 degree and turn it down to 6. Traditionally the PING LST is lower spinning but not the lowest. Though checking strike, I recall your coach has a quad or did  if you are still working with them, to make sure that is not adding more spin.

[Chip Strokes]

1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

What is your launch angle?

Spray the face and see where you are making contact. I’m betting it’s low on the face which if going to increase spin regardless of whether you go to a lower spin head.

If so it’s a swing issue not a head design issue

12-13* usually. though i’d like to see it around 10*. 

i generally strike it high middle to high and slightly toe side. i have the occasional low heel miss but those are just bad swings. the impetus for this thread is my well struck drives, which are still up above 3K

[Chip Strokes]

27 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Taylormade also drivers usually sit on the lower end of spin, SIM2 or Stealth Plus, plus you can get the 8 degree and turn it down to 6. Traditionally the PING LST is lower spinning but not the lowest. Though checking strike, I recall your coach has a quad or did  if you are still working with them, to make sure that is not adding more spin.

thanks for the suggestion but i didn’t get along with the sim2 at all.  that’s what i played before moving to my ping.

plus, i went through 3 of them in two seasons, after going through two original sims.  i have concerns about their durability. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

3 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

12-13* usually. though i’d like to see it around 10*. 

i generally strike it high middle to high and slightly toe side. i have the occasional low heel miss but those are just bad swings. the impetus for this thread is my well struck drives, which are still up above 3K

That doesn’t make sense. The numbers you have provided should not be generating that kind of spin. What is your dynamic loft?

[ejgaudette]

22 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

thanks for the suggestion but i didn’t get along with the sim2 at all.  that’s what i played before moving to my ping.

plus, i went through 3 of them in two seasons, after going through two original sims.  i have concerns about their durability. 

Well that would make me not to use them either. Maybe the mixed construction with carbon is the issue. The all titanium Titliest might make sense, and the Cobra is another good option, though does have that mixed construction. Though they have the LTDx LS long driver version. If it can handle Berkshire and Bryson one would imagine it would hold up.

[AndySP]

Are you on a radar or forsight? I’d be curious if TrackMan doesn’t get the Bridgestone ball well inside. 
 

my guess is that at your speeds that’s just always going to be a battle. More speed = more spin kind of thing. Getting a smaller weight and adding some hot melt in the front could help too, maybe. I think it would be worth it to try a lower lifter driver, like the Titleist turned down
 

 

[PMookie]

On 9/29/2022 at 3:07 PM, Chip Strokes said:

i’m currently using a ping g425 lst. it’s pretty good for me, but i’m spinning it way too much. 

teed high, teed low, ball forward, ball back, i’ve tried it all and i can’t get the spin down below 3,000 no matter what i do. 

my delivery numbers are good. pretty neutral path, maybe 1-2* in to out, 2-3* up, with my main miss being a block where i don’t close the face. 

i’ve been on the sim plenty, and even the balls i middle up are spinning at 3200-3300.  i know i’m leaving 20-30 yards on the table compared to a shot that spins 2400-2500. 

shaft is a ventus black 7tx and i play the bridgestone b x  

what’s the lowest spinning head out there? 

i’m thinking of trying the cobra ltdx ls this winter. any other suggestions?

Stealth Plus was SUPER low for me. I’m up 3*-4*, 116 SS, in-to-out 2*. I couldn’t keep anything in the air, so I had to switch. Good luck!!!

[Shapotomous]

You might need a combination of things to get lower spin.  Shave a few hundred rpms via a different driver head and maybe try a lower spinning ball (AVX?) to shave off another couple hundred.

 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

Is it a digitally lofted Ping head?  At your speed maybe try getting a hold of a low lofted long drive head.  Or perhaps a tour issue Callaway head where you know the loft and get a green dot tour adapter. I heard Johnny Wunder say that it starts -1/2* from standard in normal setting and allows -2* more in setting. That could get ya an 8* head down below 6*. 
 

The LST is low spin for Ping but definitely not the lowest spinning head out. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

There’s nearly a dozen tour pros with the g424 lst in the bag, including Tony Finau. They all swing pretty fast. There’s something going on with contact whether it’s dynamic loft, face to path, combo of the causing the spin.

Cam champ and about 1/2 dozen pros have the g425 max which is a lot higher spinning design than the lst and none of these pros are spinning in the 3000 range on “good hits” and someone like champ and Finau have higher speed

[Chip Strokes]

10 hours ago, PMookie said:

Stealth Plus was SUPER low for me. I’m up 3*-4*, 116 SS, in-to-out 2*. I couldn’t keep anything in the air, so I had to switch. Good luck!!!

thanks, but i’ve had too many TM driver heads fail on me to go back to the well again. 

3 hours ago, Shapotomous said:

You might need a combination of things to get lower spin.  Shave a few hundred rpms via a different driver head and maybe try a lower spinning ball (AVX?) to shave off another couple hundred.

 

i’ve played the avx on and off. it’s way too soft for me. 

[Chip Strokes]

7 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

There’s nearly a dozen tour pros with the g424 lst in the bag, including Tony Finau. They all swing pretty fast. There’s something going on with contact whether it’s dynamic loft, face to path, combo of the causing the spin.

Cam champ and about 1/2 dozen pros have the g425 max which is a lot higher spinning design than the lst and none of these pros are spinning in the 3000 range on “good hits” and someone like champ and Finau have higher speed

i’ll see if i can get some impact data for you. 

if it’s a low-face impact problem, how would i go about bringing that contact up the face a bit? 

i already tee the ball with the equator of the ball about even with the top of the crown. any higher than that and my drives just go way too high 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

48 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said:

i’ll see if i can get some impact data for you. 

if it’s a low-face impact problem, how would i go about bringing that contact up the face a bit? 

i already tee the ball with the equator of the ball about even with the top of the crown. any higher than that and my drives just go way too high 

So either that or a smidge back in your stance but that can cause other issues. If strike is good height shouldn’t matter too much. When you say too high do you mean from what you like seeing or what a monitor tells you?

[RickyBobby_PR]

9 hours ago, Chip Strokes said:

i’ll see if i can get some impact data for you. 

if it’s a low-face impact problem, how would i go about bringing that contact up the face a bit? 

i already tee the ball with the equator of the ball about even with the top of the crown. any higher than that and my drives just go way too high 

Look on wrx for Howard’s driver tuneup thread and follow that.