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That would be great. Wasn't there something a couple weeks ago about the deadline to register for the Master's passing though?

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So I guess your take is once a POS always a POS. So your faith in humanity must be at the lowest of low if there's no chance for redemption? I say wait and see if he changes his act. as far as never wanting to see him play golf again. I guess shots like the one he made on 16 in 2005 happen all the time by every other player. So he should just quit at 71 career wins with 14 Majors. heck golf is so much better without him! Come on get real!

Obviously your biased, by the avatar and screename so responding is probably silly of me

 

but, sure everyone deserves a second chance, but im more amazed at how society is so quick to forgive and forget, this is the reason we are in such a sad state of affairs, our moral compass is lost.

 

then again im just a conservative kinda guy that likes people to be responsible for there actions.

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Obviously your biased, by the avatar and screename so responding is probably silly of me

 

but, sure everyone deserves a second chance, but im more amazed at how society is so quick to forgive and forget, this is the reason we are in such a sad state of affairs, our moral compass is lost.

 

then again im just a conservative kinda guy that likes people to be responsible for there actions.

I have to side with JLV on this one. I bought into the whole public image of Tiger and perhaps put him on a different level than the rest of the players because of his squeaky clean image, and even remarked to my wife one night that Tiger was never in the tabloids like pretty much every other "major" sports figure and I was really impressed. Sure he acts like a d-bag on the course and I pretty much wrote that off to him being shown ALL THE TIME and doesn't everyone curse or throw a club once in a while?

Now......knowing it was all a sham and yes, he is the greatest golfer on the planet, but I will never look at him in the same light nor will I ever root for him again. Fool me once, shame on you....Even in his "press conference that wasn't a press conference" he came across as an entitled smug self centered d-bag.

I forgive and forget when it's warranted and deserved and when the person whom committed the issue is actually serious about making amends. I believe he is not sorry about what he did, just about getting caught in his tangled web of deceit and lies.

 

That's my $.02 and I know many of yours differ but this is what makes a forum great.

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I think the the camps will remain divided on this for a long time.

I was thinking that the whole situation is similar to what went on with Michael Jackson. Huge differences between professional output and personal life activities. For some, the alleged issues he had with children forever turned them off to him as a person and his music. No separation. Others forgave his transgressions and continued to enjoy his music. Many were somewhere in the middle. Once the opinion was formed, it seemed to stick. Jackson's alleged actions were more serious than Tiger's. Both very amoral acts, but to my knowledge the outside of the crazy accident night the police have not been involved.

 

Regardless, a big +1 to those of you who feel passionate about either side of this issue and yet have kept the discussion about the issue, not digressing into personal attacks or anything.

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I think the the camps will remain divided on this for a long time.

I was thinking that the whole situation is similar to what went on with Michael Jackson. Huge differences between professional output and personal life activities. For some, the alleged issues he had with children forever turned them off to him as a person and his music. No separation. Others forgave his transgressions and continued to enjoy his music. Many were somewhere in the middle. Once the opinion was formed, it seemed to stick. Jackson's alleged actions were more serious than Tiger's. Both very amoral acts, but to my knowledge the outside of the crazy accident night the police have not been involved.

 

Regardless, a big +1 to those of you who feel passionate about either side of this issue and yet have kept the discussion about the issue, not digressing into personal attacks or anything.

+1 Sactown. Your inclusion of MJ into this is a good way of looking at the separation between perceptions.

 

P.S....how did you know when it was bedtime at Michael Jackson's house? The big hand is on the little hand. :lol:

 

Sorry...just a little humor.

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+1 for the civility of this discussion, despite the disagreement.

 

I think the point that Sactown made is a good one: some people can separate the personal from the public/performance, some people can't or don't want to. I'm just one of the former.

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Golfware, you hit in on the head 100%. I want to see Tiger on the course, and I do not care if he's in the gossip pages or not (because I don't read them). As you said, I didn't like him before because he was a great husband, so I don't care now if he's a bad husband. Obviously, it would be nice to cheer for someone who is infallible - perfect golfer, husband, father, etc, but that's not reality. Tiger, come back soon!

 

Actually, I'm just the oppposite. I LIKE to cheer for someone who IS fallible. I want someone who's "human" because we all make mistakes. All of us do... to some degree or another. Which is why I root for John Daly and guys like him. I don't root for prima dona's... which is what Tiger has been and probably still will continue to be. But man, it's FUN to watch him play some great golf.

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For the record so I dont come across like an ass, I wish this never happened to Tiger, he was an amazing role model for kids and his foundation is awesome. So hopefully you guys dont think im a prick

 

Oh, I certainly do wish this would have never happened, but it has and heck, Tiger's not the first and he certainly won't be the LAST guy that gets busted for infidelity. That's for sure.

 

This foundation is awesome, but I don't personally know the guy, so I can't really comment on him being a role model or not. All I know, from personal experience, is that when I took my boys (7 & 9) to the President's Cup this year, and they cheered for Phil Mickelson, Phil acknowledged them and gave my youngest a smile and a thumbs up. He still remembers that. You WON'T get that from Tiger.

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+1 for the civility of this discussion, despite the disagreement.

 

I think the point that Sactown made is a good one: some people can separate the personal from the public/performance, some people can't or don't want to. I'm just one of the former.

 

 

+2 as well!

 

And yes, I HOPE that he's back at Bay Hill!! C'mon Tiger!! Let's play!

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Heck, if one of us did the same thing we wouldn't have to have a media circus following us, just an attorney.

 

If we made millions of dollars off the public from endorsements, tickets sold, pro sports, TV contracts, and the like, we'd have that same media circus. In other words, it comes with the territory. If you want all the spoils of that life, you gotta take the good with the bad -- same as you and I with our lifestyles. Our good? Not having the media circus crucify us for most of our mistakes. Our bad? Not being a gazillionare off the pubic at large. LOL

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For the record so I dont come across like an ass, I wish this never happened to Tiger, he was an amazing role model for kids and his foundation is awesome. So hopefully you guys dont think im a prick

Having a strong opinion doesn't make you an ass. It just means you have a strong opinion. They way you expressed your opinion was rational and civil. That works for me...

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This JUST in. Looks like Tiger will be playing Bay Hill!! All signs point to Bay Hill!! Yahoo!!! Just makes sense. And he NEEDS to play in The Player's Championship too. Could you imagine that?? What if we won the Master's, the Player's Championship & the US Open. Heading into the British, what would people be talking about then??

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This JUST in. Looks like Tiger will be playing Bay Hill!! All signs point to Bay Hill!! Yahoo!!! Just makes sense. And he NEEDS to play in The Player's Championship too. Could you imagine that?? What if we won the Master's, the Player's Championship & the US Open. Heading into the British, what would people be talking about then??

 

Anyone got a link to a news source for this, please?

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If we made millions of dollars off the public from endorsements, tickets sold, pro sports, TV contracts, and the like, we'd have that same media circus. In other words, it comes with the territory. If you want all the spoils of that life, you gotta take the good with the bad -- same as you and I with our lifestyles. Our good? Not having the media circus crucify us for most of our mistakes. Our bad? Not being a gazillionare off the pubic at large. LOL

 

I completely agree with your take on that 100%. The magnifying glass is always on the high profile people in the world and deservedly so I guess. I guess it all boils down to which is the lesser of two evils...less money and less media attention or more money and a tighter rope to walk in the public eye.

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I want to see his reaction to the heckling, more than I want to see him play. It would be awesome if he got paired with Phil at Augusta and Phil laps him

Initial crowds will be brutal, count on that. Plus scuffles in the crowd doesn't seem impossible as Yeah-Tiger and Boo-Tiger fans collide.

Get the popcorn, it's going to be fun to watch regardless.

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Initial crowds will be brutal, count on that. Plus scuffles in the crowd doesn't seem impossible as Yeah-Tiger and Boo-Tiger fans collide.

Get the popcorn, it's going to be fun to watch regardless.

 

I can't wait till Steve Williams runs into the wrong guy and get's a little of what he's been giving.

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