Show us your Maltby!!!

[Shrek74]

IMO they're actually pretty great. Their bend profile is probably on the ++ side of what is stated. For example, S might play closer to a softer XS. For reference, I built my dad some KE4 MAX a while back (the ones in the LetsPlayThru video) with R flex. Gabe usually plays a softer S flex and I play between S and XS profile. For me the clubs were very smooth but extremely stable for my swing. If I were to build a set for myself, I'd just go S and call it a day. Gabe actually actually really liked the R flex and they played very well for his swing. Somewhere on the Maltby forum, I thought I read Britt's comparison to the the Ventus Blue but that could be way off. 
On a completely unrelated topic from your question, I've been LOVING the MPF Pro UL R flex in both of my drivers. I transitioned to them as a more firm Otto Phlex option and they are lights out! 
 

Tks Stu. I watched both LPT Maltby episodes. Gabe really liked them a lot.
Do you know what the profile is on the shaft? Butt, mid, tip?
I don't mind the slightly stiffer flex, to be honest. Playing DG shafts all my life, I'm used to a bit of a stiffer feel. I just need to save my elbows/wrists/hands now.

My driver SS is around 100, do you think the A flex would be a better try for me as a cheaper Otto Phlex?

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[GolfSpy_APH]

@GolfSpy SAM have you given any more consideration to a full set of Maltby?

[GolfSpy SAM]

5 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

@GolfSpy SAM have you given any more consideration to a full set of Maltby?

Lol. I should show you my open tabs right now on my work computer. It's literally the TS4/3/TE+ heads on 3 tabs so that I can cock back and forth comparing toplines and sole widths. It's... Yeah, it's a thing. 

I'm currently leaning towards the TE+ heads because as much as I love the look of the TS4's, the MPF of the TE's cannot be ignored, and after hitting the PXG CB's so well, those TE+'s are really hard to ignore. 

The TS4's are sexier, so I may have to build up a 7-iron in both to do a proper comparison. 

It should wait until after Virginia, though, so I'm not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[Robh65]

43 minutes ago, GolfSpy SAM said:

Lol. I should show you my open tabs right now on my work computer. It's literally the TS4/3/TE+ heads on 3 tabs so that I can cock back and forth comparing toplines and sole widths. It's... Yeah, it's a thing. 

I'm currently leaning towards the TE+ heads because as much as I love the look of the TS4's, the MPF of the TE's cannot be ignored, and after hitting the PXG CB's so well, those TE+'s are really hard to ignore. 

The TS4's are sexier, so I may have to build up a 7-iron in both to do a proper comparison. 

It should wait until after Virginia, though, so I'm not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

That is hilarious...I have done the same thing with browser tabs so many times it is ridiculous. 

I also hear what you are saying about the TE+.  I received my TS4 7i with an FST Xstiff shaft (normally I use stiff, but GW and this thread indicated the shaft is 1 flex less) and I felt like it was potentially too stiff.  I have done several investigative searches for "how do I know if my shaft is too stiff" (there are apparently a bunch of ladies out there that think that isn't possible)...however, most of what I found indicates that I would be hitting short fades/slices, which is not what happened when I went out last Friday morning when I was pulling everything with draw...not a good combo.  This has become a common miss for me over the past year which says I have probably developed some bad habits.

Anyway, I am not giving up on it yet, but I certainly have given the TE+ a more serious look.  I think the GW photos indicate a topline as thin, if not thinner than the TS4, but it is probably negligible.  The TE+ reminds me a lot of my current Wilson Staff Progressives, which isn't a bad thing.

[KOG]

13 hours ago, Shrek74 said:

 

 

Tks Stu. I watched both LPT Maltby episodes. Gabe really liked them a lot.
Do you know what the profile is on the shaft? Butt, mid, tip?
I don't mind the slightly stiffer flex, to be honest. Playing DG shafts all my life, I'm used to a bit of a stiffer feel. I just need to save my elbows/wrists/hands now.

My driver SS is around 100, do you think the A flex would be a better try for me as a cheaper Otto Phlex?

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The driver shafts are higher launch, Id say high/mid. Stiff tip and butt but little softer in the middle. for 100, get the A flex and trim between A and R for the regular mpf shafs. The ul are more flexible so R flex. All just assumptions of where Id start.

[vandyland]

Well, my TS1-IM just got delivered so looking forward to displaying it in all its glory and hitting it against my current gamer and my TS3 7 iron with the same shaft. I will hit them on my Rapsodo MLM2Pro initially since I have that at home but then will also see how it does at the range off grass and on a trackman as well. Very excited and hoping my Maltby expedition ends here. 

[vandyland]

TS1-IM arrived and it looks very good. Maybe even mildly intimidating but in a good way. Here are the pictures with my Ben Hogan, the TS1-IM in the middle and the TS3 on the other side. The blade length is shorter on the hogan but the sole is narrower on the TS1-IM. Also, the hosels on both maltby are considerably shorter in an effort to centralize the CG.

Edited February 1 by vandyland

[azstu324]

1 hour ago, vandyland said:

TS1-IM arrived and it looks very good. Maybe even mildly intimidating but in a good way. Here are the pictures with my Ben Hogan, the TS1-IM in the middle and the TS3 on the other side. The blade length is shorter on the hogan but the sole is narrower on the TS1-IM. Also, the hosels on both maltby are considerably shorter in an effort to centralize the CG.

I should be getting my TS1 IMs back from Gabe this Saturday and I'm pretty excited to take them for a spin. Having a set of both TS4s and TS1 IMs I'm feeling pretty spoiled. Not sure how to justify when to use either set. First world problems I guess

[GolfSpy SAM]

@azstu324 - do you have a clear cut favorite between the two? I feel like I could go either way, and even the TE+, on any given day. What's your overall takeaway of the differences between TS1/4?

[azstu324]

9 hours ago, GolfSpy SAM said:

@azstu324 - do you have a clear cut favorite between the two? I feel like I could go either way, and even the TE+, on any given day. What's your overall takeaway of the differences between TS1/4?

So I haven't actually hit the TS1-IM yet. I had them made and sent directly to Gabe for review. When I get them back on Saturday I should be able to do a good comparison. 

The TS4 right now are probably my favorite set of irons that I've ever owned (I've owned quite a few). They're just everything that I want an iron to be. 

I'll definitely be reporting back 

[vandyland]

From a looks perspective, the TS1-IM are in the conversation of the best looking iron I have ever seen that I also feel like I can actually play. There are some classic looking blades that look better but I would be terrified to try to hit on a cold morning. These, to me, are like a less busy looking T-100. They are too slim (to me) to be compared to P790s. Now that I have seen these up close, these have to be the Maltbys that I play. If I don't get along with them, I can't really go back to the TS3 because, well, I'm too vain I guess? 

Ultimately, they have to outperform my gamers by a significant margin because I like my current irons. The TE+ V4 were fine but didn't outperform. The TS3 were better and are better on mishits than my gamers but there was always that nagging "I don't quite love how these look." Now I have the TS1-IM and they just look fantastic. Didn't get many swings with them last night since my outdoor setup is, well, outdoors and it was 38 degrees.  

[IndyBonzo]

12 hours ago, vandyland said:

TS1-IM arrived and it looks very good. Maybe even mildly intimidating but in a good way. Here are the pictures with my Ben Hogan, the TS1-IM in the middle and the TS3 on the other side. The blade length is shorter on the hogan but the sole is narrower on the TS1-IM. Also, the hosels on both maltby are considerably shorter in an effort to centralize the CG.

Eager here to learn about how these clubs compare for you @vandyland!  I also have the Hogans, and game the TS3/TS4 combo most of the time . . . so of course one cannot help but wonder if the TS1-IM could be even better!

[Shrek74]

1 hour ago, vandyland said:

From a looks perspective, the TS1-IM are in the conversation of the best looking iron I have ever seen that I also feel like I can actually play. There are some classic looking blades that look better but I would be terrified to try to hit on a cold morning. These, to me, are like a less busy looking T-100. They are too slim (to me) to be compared to P790s. Now that I have seen these up close, these have to be the Maltbys that I play. If I don't get along with them, I can't really go back to the TS3 because, well, I'm too vain I guess? 

Ultimately, they have to outperform my gamers by a significant margin because I like my current irons. The TE+ V4 were fine but didn't outperform. The TS3 were better and are better on mishits than my gamers but there was always that nagging "I don't quite love how these look." Now I have the TS1-IM and they just look fantastic. Didn't get many swings with them last night since my outdoor setup is, well, outdoors and it was 38 degrees.  

I have to admit now that I see these in your pictures and compared to other irons, that sole width concerns me a bit. As a higher handicap who's working on their swing, I'm not sure I like something that narrow. I had a set of New Level 902OS that had narrow soles and I didn't really get along with them. I don't want to go all the way to some huge sole like most GI irons have, but a really narrow sole scares me a bit. Strangely, a narrower top like and more compact heel to toe don't scare me as much as a narrow sole does. I'm somewhat shallow on my AoA (about 0* to -2*) and would think a narrow sole would be better. *shrug*

I may have to rethink.

[GolfSpy SAM]

5 minutes ago, Shrek74 said:

I have to admit now that I see these in your pictures and compared to other irons, that sole width concerns me a bit. As a higher handicap who's working on their swing, I'm not sure I like something that narrow. I had a set of New Level 902OS that had narrow soles and I didn't really get along with them. I don't want to go all the way to some huge sole like most GI irons have, but a really narrow sole scares me a bit. Strangely, a narrower top like and more compact heel to toe don't scare me as much as a narrow sole does. I'm somewhat shallow on my AoA (about 0* to -2*) and would think a narrow sole would be better. *shrug*

I may have to rethink.

This is fascinating to me (as are most things that are subjective, like feel and looks) - I'm the exact opposite, much to my surprise.  I had the TaylorMade Sim Max (1st version) irons in the bag for 3 years, and (along with lessons) was seeing actual improvement.  When I got the Caleys last year (01T model, so very similar in size to the P790/770 (I think they kind of split the difference), I was stunned by how MUCH narrower the soles were, especially in the longer irons (5, 6, 7).  But what was even more surprising, is how much better that narrow sole performed for me - I have a much more steep attack angle (-4 on a good one, -7 on a bad one), and I've found that the narrower sole (again, for me) gets in and out a lot easier than the wider sole of my previous gamers did.  And it wasn't even close.  In turn, I found a lot better contact on my BAD swings, and the same/better contact on my good swings.

So looking at the those TS1-iM's is drool-inducing, lol.  

@vandyland - I really appreciate the feedback on the TS3.  I demo'd a 6 and 9-iron, and while I could not fault the clubs in ANY way, the topline was thicker than I was expecting (very similar, in fact, to my TM's).  I was thinking about the TE/TS4, but man those iM's look incredible. I actually think this pic (below) is the best pic I've seen of them - they're just SO clean (and yes, miles better-looking than the 3's).  I'm so torn between these and the TS4's (obviously very similar design language).  I don't REALLY wanna demo both, lol. 

13 hours ago, vandyland said:

TS1-IM arrived and it looks very good. Maybe even mildly intimidating but in a good way. Here are the pictures with my Ben Hogan, the TS1-IM in the middle and the TS3 on the other side. The blade length is shorter on the hogan but the sole is narrower on the TS1-IM. Also, the hosels on both maltby are considerably shorter in an effort to centralize the CG.

 

 

 

[vandyland]

5 minutes ago, GolfSpy SAM said:

I don't REALLY wanna demo both, lol. 

I would be happy to send you the TS1-IM at some point. Either I am going to buy a pak and would have to re-order another 7 iron anyway or I will determine they aren't a match for me. 

[IndyBonzo]

These are not mine!

But there is a minty TS3 iron set with A-flex steelfibers for sale on eBay with a current low bid.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305375894990?hash=item4719d25dce:g:SkEAAOSw-uRlt8hB&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Aqjw5X0wif0W4TA%2BwzFQvuTh0nDR0rWv4u52y12zjeab5nhTq%2FWPf47KSzV6ijHUQWSk8%2FsGtpYWM3orbPO0IAHr7wpOmSPzwjTm8F%2FHbmM5v0teT309Ed%2B4XY94PBG2hfxCXKbk0p2DPij5sRBMogZfQ1EpmYwWXh8V3BeBY7Q7Ps5e10IPh5oaCsSg5Iwr%2B0y0vlgGEsZ6f%2BSi3rcdu0Fg2Lw9Qp%2F7Sv1MksC1dIYczl8vD7oltTTptgIxlnlSqzFIIpsmBL9ZXrUx5ubGmhwkYDDM93ToLDTF4wBL0xo|tkp%3ABk9SR6r8xdisYw

Somebody should snag those!

[azstu324]

12 hours ago, GolfSpy SAM said:

@azstu324 - do you have a clear cut favorite between the two? I feel like I could go either way, and even the TE+, on any given day. What's your overall takeaway of the differences between TS1/4?

Shipping update.. 

They'll be here today! I should have a chance to start hitting them on my sim in the next day or so and will be able to compare the physical aspects of both. 

[azstu324]

1 hour ago, vandyland said:

I would be happy to send you the TS1-IM at some point. Either I am going to buy a pak and would have to re-order another 7 iron anyway or I will determine they aren't a match for me. 

@vandyland, you may know this but if you decide to order a pak, GW will deduct the cost of the 7i and build the set sans 7. Unless you plan to build the set with a different shaft or length specs. 

[GolfSpy SAM]

3 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

@vandyland, you may know this but if you decide to order a pak, GW will deduct the cost of the 7i and build the set sans 7. Unless you plan to build the set with a different shaft or length specs. 

I was going to say the same thing - but I would love to hit it if you do go a different route, @vandyland.  

[vandyland]

I don't want to overreact, I don't want to do it. But, I hit the TS1-IM (7i / FST 125 Stiff) on the range today alongside my gamer (Ben Hogan PTxPro 7i / KBS Tour 120 Stiff) and it was supposed to be a side by side, let's hit 5 with each and then switch back and forth. Well...I had to remind myself to pick up the Hogan! I was having so much fun hitting the TS1-IM. These were my observations after hitting 40-50 balls with it:

- Gets in and out of the turf nicely, doesn't seem to dig even though I am fairly steep (6-7* down with a 7 iron)
- Isn't *quite* as soft as my Hogan on a center strike but still feels very good
- Ball seems to jump a bit off the face, not necessarily bad. It is 1.5 degrees stronger but it also just feels different off the face
- Mishits seem to be better on the TS1
- Somehow, feedback also seems more specific on the TS1
- Finally, it just looks so good

So, yeah, no trackman numbers or on-course performance but for hitting stock, beautiful shots....this thing delivered. I could easily order a full set right now. I don’t even need to test it against the TS3.

 

 

Edited February 2 by vandyland

[KOG]

Nice. So I played the original TS1 (for sale on ebay) and now Im all TS3. What do you think is the main reason you prefer these to the ts3? Is it the topline and overall cosmetics? Or performance?

[KOG]

On 2/1/2024 at 11:42 AM, IndyBonzo said:

These are not mine!

But there is a minty TS3 iron set with A-flex steelfibers for sale on eBay with a current low bid.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305375894990?hash=item4719d25dce:g:SkEAAOSw-uRlt8hB&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Aqjw5X0wif0W4TA%2BwzFQvuTh0nDR0rWv4u52y12zjeab5nhTq%2FWPf47KSzV6ijHUQWSk8%2FsGtpYWM3orbPO0IAHr7wpOmSPzwjTm8F%2FHbmM5v0teT309Ed%2B4XY94PBG2hfxCXKbk0p2DPij5sRBMogZfQ1EpmYwWXh8V3BeBY7Q7Ps5e10IPh5oaCsSg5Iwr%2B0y0vlgGEsZ6f%2BSi3rcdu0Fg2Lw9Qp%2F7Sv1MksC1dIYczl8vD7oltTTptgIxlnlSqzFIIpsmBL9ZXrUx5ubGmhwkYDDM93ToLDTF4wBL0xo|tkp%3ABk9SR6r8xdisYw

Somebody should snag those!

Nice find but holy crap that guy sucks at gripping clubs LOL

[IndyBonzo]

9 minutes ago, KOG said:

Nice find but holy crap that guy sucks at gripping clubs LOL

Ha.  I see that!

Not my handiwork, I swear!

[IndyBonzo]

34 minutes ago, vandyland said:

I don't want to overreact, I don't want to do it. But, I hit the TS1-IM (7i / FST 125 Stiff) on the range today alongside my gamer (Ben Hogan PTxPro 7i / KBS Tour 120 Stiff) and it was supposed to be a side by side, let's hit 5 with each and then switch back and forth. Well...I had to remind myself to pick up the Hogan! I was having so much fun hitting the TS1-IM. These were my observations after hitting 40-50 balls with it:

- Gets in and out of the turf nicely, doesn't seem to dig even though I am fairly steep (6-7* down with a 7 iron)
- Isn't *quite* as soft as my Hogan on a center strike but still feels very good
- Ball seems to jump a bit off the face, not necessarily bad. It is 1.5 degrees stronger but it also just feels different off the face
- Mishits seem to be better on the TS1
- Somehow, feedback also seems more specific on the TS1
- Finally, it just looks so good

So, yeah, no trackman numbers or on-course performance but for hitting stock, beautiful shots....this thing delivered. I could easily order a full set right now. I don’t even need to test it against the TS3.

 

 

Man . . .

 

Sigh.

Why are you doing this to us @vandyland?  I really, really like my TS3/TS4 combos.  I did not want to doubt them.  And here you come, riding in here with the comparison (which I asked for explicitly) and shooting up the joint.  

Edited February 2 by IndyBonzo

[azstu324]

17 minutes ago, KOG said:

Nice find but holy crap that guy sucks at gripping clubs LOL

Ha ha! Man that would send my OCD to the moon!

[NCDuffer]

The shafts too as with the grips.  I like the pieces but afraid of how they were put together.  

[vandyland]

@KOG and @IndyBonzo, I know how bad of an influence this forum can be. I have been through a number of Maltby heads and I was starting to wonder what all the fuss was about. But these have kind of re-ignited that. Obviously, these have to perform so that is a given. In a head to head with the TS3 it kind of goes like this:

- My miss is higher on the face or out on the toe, the TS3s handle the toe well and high on the face just ok. So far the TS1-IM seems to handle the higher on the face shots better and the toe misses similarly.
- The aesthetics are much better with the TS1-IM. When I saw it I just started thinking "please let me be able to flush these" because they looked so good.
- For, and maybe this was just today, the TS1-IM is better through the turf. It shouldn't really be that noticeable since the TS1-IM is only slightly narrower but these TS1-IMs cut through pretty well. Not sure how that changes when it is extremely baked out. 
- Ball flight just was stronger with the TS1-IM, seemed to hit about the same peak height but got there in more a flatter trajectory if that makes sense. I can work them but they want to go straight. 

[azstu324]

6 minutes ago, NCDuffer said:

The shafts too as with the grips.  I like the pieces but afraid of how they were put together.  

Oh yeah seriously.. 

These clubs are the poster child for "don't drink.. or get high and build golf clubs".. 

Edited February 2 by azstu324

[IndyBonzo]

Thank you @vandyland.  That is very descriptive and helpful.

Sortof.  (Ha.)

1 minute ago, azstu324 said:

Oh yeah seriously.. 

These clubs are the poster child for "don't drink and build golf clubs".. 

Maybe the shafts are pured?

(It could happen.)

[azstu324]

3 minutes ago, IndyBonzo said:

Maybe the shafts are pured?

(It could happen.)

If so, you almost need to keep the sticker on just to say "I didn't eff up my clubs.. they've been PURE'd"