MattNJGolfer Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) This absolutely had to happen. It will kill any litigation. It restores world ranking points to the liv guys before the points reset! It's just a better look for all instead of taking pot shots in interviews and social media Edited June 6, 2023 by MattNJGolfer Clarification in world ranking points Quote PING G400 max 11° Cobra F9 3 wood Cobra F7 19° hybrid TM PSi Tour Forged 4-P 50, 54 cleveland zip groove 58 Cobra snakebite Ping Anser 2 WANT NEW IRONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fongle Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Honestly, I just hope that this means Australia still gets events from LIV, or whatever this new tour will be called. That was my favourite part of LIV, they held events in places the PGA abandoned JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and Blueberry_Squishie 2 1 Quote Driver - King SZ 1w 7.5° w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 110MSI 60x Woods - King SZ Big Tour 3w 13.5° w/ Fujikura Pro 65, King SZ 5w 20° w/ Tensei CK White 70 Driving Iron - King Utility 2i 16° w/ Project X Hzrdus Black 85 Irons - Apex '24 Combo set - 4i Pro, 5i-8i CB, 9i-10i MB w/ KBS Tour V 120 X-Stiff Wedges - MD5 Jaws 52° - S 10° grind, 56° - C 8° grind, 60° - C 8° grind w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner Tour Issue 115 Putter(s) - O-Works 2 Ball Black, Big Bertha Warbird, Special Select Squareback 2.0, Red X2, Bullseye Original Flange SC, Bullseye Standard Flange SC, OG Bronze Anser, Method Midnight 007, R.Mendralla 8802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardukes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Azavil said: This is the way things should be done, top players in the world playing against each other, make them earn the huge money price they have on the table! Love it. If players took a side in this "dispute" well, its up to them, you never know what curve ball life will throw at you, it'll be interesting, except for watching the spoiled kid named patrick reed.. You apparently know something no one else does. I'm wondering if they move the designated tour or the DP USA portion of PGATour into the for-profit LLC. PeterHenric 1 Quote Z565 or Launcher Lite :: M6 3&5 woods :: Srixon hybrids :: Cleveland 588 TT irons :: CBX wedges :: midsize grips w/no glove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenric Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I have got to think that probably the elevated events will be modified? And their press release it says that they are trying to iron everything out and I do not envy them on trying to square everything up. Their calendar is already full and then you add in the LIV stuff which will certainly be a different series, but it still has schedules that presumably their other big-name guys will be playing on as well. Maybe the elevated events become the LIV events? Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym @ 10.5º (Fujikura Ventus Red Velocore TR Stiff) 4 Wood: Titleist TSr 2 @ 14.5º Driving Iron: Ping iCrossover 17º (Project X HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX 80 Stiff) Irons: Taylormade Stealth 4-P (Fujikura Ventus Blue Graphite 7 Stiff) Wedges: Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore 48º, 52º, 56º (TT Dynamic Gold Tour Issue) Putter: Odyssey AI One Jailbird Mini Ball: Titleist ProV1X, MaxFli Tour X 2023, MaxFli Tour 2023, Titleist AVX Tested: Tommy Armour Impact No. 3 (LINK) Tested: Titleist Prototype Balls (LINK) Tested: Stitch Golf SL2 Golf Bag (LINK) Unofficially Tested: Odyssey One Black (LINK) Shot Tracking App: Golf Pad GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddvm Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, jayjay0808 said: Ummm, I was shocked this morning. My initial thoughts, after all this talk about where the money was coming from by the PGA Tour, Golf Channel, and every media outlet... the PGA Tour and Monahan took the money after all. A bunch of hypocrites in my opinion, sellouts. That is a fair take on it !!!!!!!!!!!!! DoubleBogeyDad and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote SpeedZone Pars and Stripes 9.5* Driver 14gm weight in back, VENTUS Blue 6-R set to +1* draw. 14.5* Fairway, 18.5* Fairway, 22.5* Fairway. All with Tensei CK Blue R set to +1* draw. 816H1 27* Hybrid w/ Diamana Blue Board 70 HY Stiff Shaft SpeedZoneONE 5 + 6 KBS Tour 80 R SpeedZoneONE 7, 8, 9 KBS Tour 90 R SpeedZoneONE P, G, S KBS Wedge King Black ONE 60* VO8* True Temper Dynamic Gold Black Lamkin Crossline Cord Connect Black Mid-size plus 2 wraps Special Select Newport 2 34" Matador grip -ProV1x Align XL All in a Masters Staff Bag or SpeedZone stand bag #COBRACONNECT CHALLENGE 4 The ONLY One Length Contestant! Tested Prototype Balls Tour B RXS Tested:Black Cat irons 5 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Graphite Regular +0.5" 1* upright BirdieBall Outdoor Putting Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 While this does strike me as odd in timing, it makes complete sense. The DP was dying a slow death with a lack of sponsors and purse money to pare against the PGAT. With LIV going to a relegation approach it opens the path for those players to resume their pro careers after getting the boot. It probably means OWGR points for LIV tournaments as well. Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardukes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, MattNJGolfer said: This absolutely had to happen. It will kill any litigation. It restores world ranking points. It's just a better look for all instead of taking pot shots in interviews and social media I just watched the CNBC interview including Monahan. Where do you guys get this stuff? How does it restore world ranking points? Quote Z565 or Launcher Lite :: M6 3&5 woods :: Srixon hybrids :: Cleveland 588 TT irons :: CBX wedges :: midsize grips w/no glove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy MPR Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 This, so far, seems to be the most substantive take I've seen that makes some sense: fozcycle, Larryd3, Subdiver1 and 10 others 12 1 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheelvolvo Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The best response I have seen so far was in an ESPN write-up where they quoted a PGA Tour player (unnamed) who, when reached for comment, said "No F---ing way!" They are also establishing a "fair an objective process for any players who desire to re-apply for the membership with the PGA Tour or DP World Tour following the completion of the 2023 season." I'm curious what Phil will say given his tweets lately... GaDawg, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and 2 others 2 3 Quote In my Hoofer: G410 LST 10.5* - Kai'Li White 60 X-flex VRS Covert 3W 15* - Kuro Kage 65 S-flex T200 4-GW, DG X100 Tour Issue - Tester Glide 2.0 Stealth 54.12 SS & 58.10 SS Zing 2 LW - 60* Anser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richk9holes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 My thoughts: Awkward. So much is on record. Chamblee went so far in defense of the PGA and with the most eyeballs on him. The backtracking, revisionist narrative and retcon will need to be expert level. Major reason Monahan will likely stay in his job. Monahan should step down. Mishandled is a kind word. 3 1/2 years ago this could have been the likely result had he been open to it. He instead used resources to pay lawyers (who play at CCs regularly anyway) and paid actors (who also play golf regularly at nice places) to run a gambit of litigation and propaganda. Purported mission of growing the game. This merger leads in that direction. The resistance to it, as I see it, was using resources that could have been directed at the stated goals. Pushback I hear most often is now PIF and thereby the Saudi govt has financial majority interest in the sport of golf. Simple solution (not for me, but many of the loudest voices) INVEST IN GOLF. Take some of your $ from your offshore account you hide it in and repatriate it, build a golf course. Let juniors play for $5. Now you're doing something besides talking. NCAA and the alumni of every University, build a course. If you have one, build an executive on an adjoining property. If people are unhappy about the Saudi investment representing such a large amount they are encouraged to help dilute it. Preeway, fixyurdivot, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote Finding a way to turn birdies into bogeys since 1992. #TeamChunks '23 Forum Tester: Elixir Golf Ball WITB:TS2 10.5° @ 11.25° Tensei blue AV 55 R graph•917f2 15° @ 16.5° Diamana blue x5ct dialed 70 R graph•Stealth 22° Ventus red 6 (non-velo) R graph• 699u 2i 17° tgi 70 R graph•24° Tour v 90 black pvd R steel•699 6i-PW Tour 110 black pvd R steel• SM8 50°/08° @ 52°/10° SM8 stock steel• Jaws Full Toe 56°/12° DG Spinner TI steel • c series DW 2.0 slant neck stock steel•Phantom 2 gps•Tour v3 rangefinder•Elixir golf ball• Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTourney Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The PGA Tour blinked... GaDawg, PeterHenric, JohnSmalls and 3 others 2 1 3 Quote Good hand action comes from good body action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 *THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER THREAD* DISREGARD Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, jayjay0808 said: Ummm, I was shocked this morning. My initial thoughts, after all this talk about where the money was coming from by the PGA Tour, Golf Channel, and every media outlet... the PGA Tour and Monahan took the money after all. A bunch of hypocrites in my opinion, sellouts. Money always talks doesnt it? Tale as old as time, but I 100% am on this side with you, KETTLE BLACK is pet peeve. DoubleBogeyDad, JohnSmalls, fixyurdivot and 2 others 5 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradka13 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Wild. Never even heard a thing about this even being remotely possible and then...BAM! JohnSmalls, daviddvm and PeterHenric 3 Quote Driver - Titleist TS2 3 Wood - TaylorMade Rocketballz 2 Hybrids - Taylormade Rescue knockoffs Irons - Taylormade Burner 2.0 52 Degree - Cleveland CG14 56 Degree - Titleist Vokey BV 60 Degree - Ping Glide 3.0 Ball - Depends if I find in or have to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattNJGolfer Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Before the merger, when world ranking points reset after this season, LIV golfers wouldn't get new world ranking points, and wouldn't qualify for Majors or other big events. That's what I meant Mardukes JohnSmalls 1 Quote PING G400 max 11° Cobra F9 3 wood Cobra F7 19° hybrid TM PSi Tour Forged 4-P 50, 54 cleveland zip groove 58 Cobra snakebite Ping Anser 2 WANT NEW IRONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRLEONARD58 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I had to check the calendar that it wasn't April 1..... turns out it isn't hoppman, daviddvm, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote WITB: Takomo IGNIS Driver 10.5* (1* strong) with HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 5.5 shaft Takomo IGNIS 5 Wood with HZRDUS Smoke Black 60g 5.5 shaft Ping G430 22* Hybrid with HZRDUS Smoke Red 80g 6.0 shaft Srixon ZX5 Mk II 5-PW with KBS Tour Light R shafts Edison 2.0 Wedges 51° 55° 59° with KBS Tour 110 R shafts L.A.B. Golf MEZZ.1 MAX with LAB x Accra shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Actually my biggest question is where is the NLU pod. Nick_D, russtopherb, Splatt and 4 others 7 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The players that stuck by the PGA Tour are NOT happy (Hughes, Kim, Bryan, etc.). Apparently no one knew outside maybe a couple handful of people in the PGA Tour. I wonder if this is why Rory took a step back from some of his duties on the PGA Tour. JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_SHARK and gavinski91 3 Quote In my bag: Driver: Rogue ST Triple Diamond LS 10.5* (set to 9.5) UST Lin-Q Gunmetal 6f5 Wood: Tsi2 15* Project X RDX Black 70 6.5 Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Cobra King Tour MIM 4-PW Dynamic Gold 120 X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmyoungiv Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Bryson, Phil, DJ, Brooks and others are smiling right now, while I am sure their are a lot that turned down the money that are going to raise hell behind closed doors. JohnSmalls, satcomm302, GaDawg and 1 other 4 Quote Dr. Walter Young IV, PT, DPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardukes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, MattNJGolfer said: Before the merger, when world ranking points reset after this season, LIV golfers wouldn't get new world ranking points, and wouldn't qualify for Majors or other big events. That's what I meant Mardukes The problem is that what stood between LIV and OWGR was the nature of their events -- number of holes, days, players and no cuts -- none of which has been changed by this merger. You pulled this out of your...air. That's what I meant. hoppman 1 Quote Z565 or Launcher Lite :: M6 3&5 woods :: Srixon hybrids :: Cleveland 588 TT irons :: CBX wedges :: midsize grips w/no glove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 While this does strike me as odd in timing, it makes complete sense. The DP was dying a slow death with a lack of sponsors and purse money to pare against the PGAT. With LIV going to a relegation approach it opens the path for those players to resume their pro careers after getting the boot. It probably means OWGR points for LIV tournaments as well. JohnSmalls and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 HV3 from the top rope! GaDawg, JohnSmalls and fixyurdivot 3 Quote Driver- Titleist TSR3 10* Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- Titleist 718 AP2 (6i-50*) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Axis1 TourHM Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgatesjr Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em. SlowNLow, NCDuffer, JohnSmalls and 1 other 2 2 Quote Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbeast87 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Considering the absolute knee jerk reaction that the PGA had to LIV it's interesting to see their new stance! Quote Ryan Gardiner Driver: Wilson Deep Red Maxx Woods: 3W Cobra speedzone Hybrid: 4H Cobra Speedzone Irons: Cobra King F8 5-9, PW, GW Wedges: Rife RX7 60:8 & 56:12 Putter: Odyssey White Hot Pro Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CSiders12 Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 I like Scott Van Pelt's tweet. Pretty much sums up a lot of feelings about the change. JohnSmalls, poprocksncoke, OldCaddie and 7 others 10 Quote Driver: Callaway Rogue ST MAX LS Hybrid: SIM 2 3 Hybrid Irons: Mizuno JPX 921 Tour 4-P Wedges: Sub70 TAIII 50, 54, 60 Putter: Mizuno M.Craft Type 03 Putter Maxfli Tour Golf Ball Review Rapsodo MLM2Pro Launch Monitor Review Unofficial Mizuno Type III Putter Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnz12 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I hope it doesn't get too toxic in here but at the end of the day, this is what it was all supposed to be from the start. A supplemental exhibition league that was a fun change in the norm but didn't interfere with any major PGA Tour events. Jay Monohan created this drama because he was afraid of competition. I know its not fact but I have a feeling this merger is happening so the PGA Tour doesn't have to use their own money anymore to compete and keep players from jumping ship and it's possible the legal battle wasn't leaning in their favor. I'm just curious when this means players from LIV will start competing on tour again and if LIV events will soon earn OWGR points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattNJGolfer Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I'm not going to engage you negatively. But you know what merger means. They will start earning world ranking points again. JohnSmalls and funkyjudge 2 Quote PING G400 max 11° Cobra F9 3 wood Cobra F7 19° hybrid TM PSi Tour Forged 4-P 50, 54 cleveland zip groove 58 Cobra snakebite Ping Anser 2 WANT NEW IRONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Watching the press coverage and listening to Jay Monahan on CNBC, plus reading his press release, the following thought is “what a f$$king hypocrite!“ (and my use of dollar signs is entirely intentional) Edited June 6, 2023 by funkyjudge MattNJGolfer, richk9holes, GaDawg and 2 others 3 2 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardukes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Do they have they have the balls to tax the guys who jumped and, being a not for profit, distribute that money to the members? Kind of like when Junior Soprano decided to tax Heshie. Quote Z565 or Launcher Lite :: M6 3&5 woods :: Srixon hybrids :: Cleveland 588 TT irons :: CBX wedges :: midsize grips w/no glove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, MattNJGolfer said: I'm not going to engage you negatively. But you know what merger means. They will start earning world ranking points again. As it should be, and should always have been. Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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