Koepka vs McIlroy

[GC70]

Did you guys see this?

 

 

 

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[perseveringgolfer]

Looks like Golf Monthly are trying to sensationalise a basic factual statement by Brooks. I like the way he says it as it is. 

GM resorting to tabloid style journalism........

[RickyBobby_PR]

Golf is always trying to manufacture some rivalry so they have an easy storyline to go with every week. It’s each player against the field/course every week. If brooks finishes 4th and Rory finishes behind him or vice versa neither won. 

[PMookie]

Mess up

[PMookie]

Yep, saw that this morning. Koepka isn’t wrong, but it sure seems like he’s a LITTLE bit jealous of Rory’s fame and attention. Brooks only gets mentioned around majors, for his naked pics, and for his girlfriend with the receding hairline. He tried to act like he doesn’t care, but comments like this show he’s paying attention to Rory.

[Kenny B]

The quote from Brooks is not true.  Fake News.

Brooks won his first event on the PGA Tour in 2014 and was nominated for PGA Rookie of the Year.  He also played and won on the European Tour.  However, Rory won The Open Championship and the PGA Championship in 2014.

[sixcat]

59 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

The quote from Brooks is not true.  Fake News.

Brooks won his first event on the PGA Tour in 2014 and was nominated for PGA Rookie of the Year.  He also played and won on the European Tour.  However, Rory won The Open Championship and the PGA Championship in 2014.

Click-bait!!!!!

[Mr. 82]

Yeah, this is certainly "growing the game".  

[GolfSpy MPR]

Kyle Porter of CBS posted on Twitter that (presumably in light of this "beef") a Brooks/Rory Ryder Cup match up would be awesome:

But for me, this just highlights the limitation of Brooks from a golf fan perspective. It might be that the Brooks/Rory match would be an epic display of golf. But I have a difficult time picturing Brooks mustering even a portion of the charisma needed to create something as memorable as the Reed/Rory front nine at Hazeltine. It just doesn't seem that Brooks comes close to caring enough to create that kind of energy.

[sixcat]

Is a Brooks/Rory rivalry at the Ryder Cup necessary?  And is it something the US team and fan-base should be wasting time with?

It's just something else at the Europeans disposal to distract the US team.  The US team needs to be more focused on being a team as it is.  They have exactly 5 wins in Ryder Cup competition since 1985!  With 5 wins and 12 loses in 35 years, that's an awful lot of futility!!!!! 

Just saying, much more important things to worry about for any potential member of the US team.

[perseveringgolfer]

2 hours ago, Kenny B said:

The quote from Brooks is not true.  Fake News.

Brooks won his first event on the PGA Tour in 2014 and was nominated for PGA Rookie of the Year.  He also played and won on the European Tour.  However, Rory won The Open Championship and the PGA Championship in 2014.

how do you know this? any evidence? I wouldn't be surprised if it is Fake as that publication are not the most professional magazine in my opinion.

[Tsecor]

I love how memes are now news facts.....but if this is true, is there any other player outside of Patrick Reed that is any less likeable? Koepka is an arrogant smug dbag regardless of how good he is.....plus McIlroy kicked his A$$ all over the players championship even though Koepka was handed a 5 shot lead.

[Undershooter]

37 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

I love how memes are now news facts.....but if this is true, is there any other player outside of Patrick Reed that is any less likeable? Koepka is an arrogant smug dbag regardless of how good he is.....plus McIlroy kicked his A$$ all over the players championship even though Koepka was handed a 5 shot lead.

I love Brooks. He actually has the balls to speak his mind, unlike most of these pansies. Him and Rory are actually very similar in that fashion. They'll tell you what they really think. Something that's very refreshing in sports these days.

 

FYI Nobody was handed a 5 shot lead at the Players Championship. You are probably thinking of the Tour Championship and if that's the case Brooks didn't have the lead to start, JT did. BK started 3 back of him and Rory 5 back. 

[Tsecor]

6 minutes ago, Undershooter said:

I love Brooks. He actually has the balls to speak his mind, unlike most of these pansies. Him and Rory are actually very similar in that fashion. They'll tell you what they really think. Something that's very refreshing in sports these days.

 

FYI Nobody was handed a 5 shot lead at the Players Championship. You are probably thinking of the Tour Championship and if that's the case Brooks didn't have the lead to start, JT did. BK started 3 back of him and Rory 5 back. 

Yes! Thank u. I stand corrected. In the final pairing rory beat him up, correct? 

[sixcat]

Rory and Brooks were in contention while being paired together twice this past season.  They each came away wit ha victory. 

• In the Swamp Ass WGC in Memphis, Brooks took Rory to task with a final round 65 and a victory.  Rory was the only player in the Top-10 not to break par, finishing with a 71 to come home T-4.
• In the Tour Championship, Rory closed with a 66 to earn the victory.  Brooks struggled a bit with a 72 and finished T-3.

[Mr. 82]

A rivalry in mediocrity in my opinion.  Rory hasn't won a major in 5 years, and Brooks can't win a regular tour event more than once a year at best, because by his own admission, those events don't excite him, and he doesn't prepare for them.

As much as I detested the dominance of Tiger, when he was in his prime, everyone else was playing for 2nd place.  There is not a single player today that has that type of confidence to dominate, and can actually back it up with their play.

Single biggest statistic that just shows you how incredible Tiger Woods was over his playing career, what was it, how many YEARS did Tiger go without missing a cut?  That's dominance right there.  How many cuts did Rory and Brooks miss this last year alone?

Honestly, these two are a snooze fest in competitive fire.  Brooks used to not say anything, and he was better off.  Because now when he talks, what he says isn't worth repeating or talking about, because he's an average pro who happened to win 4 majors recently.

And man, talk about a guy who has gone MIA.  What in the hell is wrong with DJ?  Man, if there was ever a player that should have at least a handful of majors, and should be winning at a regular clip, it's him.  But he's simply vanished from the elite talk.

Again, it just goes to prove that none of these snapper heads are even close to what Tiger Woods was, even on one of Tiger's "off" years.  This is beyond stupid, and a ridiculous joke.

Edited October 17, 2019 by GSwag

[sixcat]

44 minutes ago, GSwag said:

A rivalry in mediocrity in my opinion.  Rory hasn't won a major in 5 years, and Brooks can't win a regular tour event more than once a year at best, because by his own admission, those events don't excite him, and he doesn't prepare for them.

As much as I detested the dominance of Tiger, when he was in his prime, everyone else was playing for 2nd place.  There is not a single player today that has that type of confidence to dominate, and can actually back it up with their play.

Single biggest statistic that just shows you how incredible Tiger Woods was over his playing career, what was it, how many YEARS did Tiger go without missing a cut?  That's dominance right there.  How many cuts did Rory and Brooks miss this last year alone?

Honestly, these two are a snooze fest in competitive fire.  Brooks used to not say anything, and he was better off.  Because now when he talks, what he says isn't worth repeating or talking about, because he's an average pro who happened to win 4 majors recently.

And man, talk about a guy who has gone MIA.  What in the hell is wrong with DJ?  Man, if there was ever a player that should have at least a handful of majors, and should be winning at a regular clip, it's him.  But he's simply vanished from the elite talk.

Again, it just goes to prove that none of these snapper heads are even close to what Tiger Woods was, even on one of Tiger's "off" years.  This is beyond stupid, and a ridiculous joke.

For the record, I completely agree.  Tiger is in a class unto himself.  Maybe even regardless of sport.  Jack Nicklaus and Bill Russell are the only other athletes that comes to mind who dominated a sport like Tiger did.  I think money creates complacency with most people and that's where Rory is now.  Complacent to the point of losing his competitive edge. 

In my opinion, Norman, Watson, Couples, etc. (as great as they were) were placeholders until the next Nicklaus came along.  When Tiger came along, Els, Mickelson, Johnson, McIlroy, Spieth and Koepka became the new placeholders until the next Tiger comes along.  Whenever that may be!  

But like Tiger, I think we will see him coming.....whoever he turns out to be.

[Undershooter]

11 hours ago, GSwag said:

A rivalry in mediocrity in my opinion.  Rory hasn't won a major in 5 years, and Brooks can't win a regular tour event more than once a year at best, because by his own admission, those events don't excite him, and he doesn't prepare for them.

As much as I detested the dominance of Tiger, when he was in his prime, everyone else was playing for 2nd place.  There is not a single player today that has that type of confidence to dominate, and can actually back it up with their play.

Single biggest statistic that just shows you how incredible Tiger Woods was over his playing career, what was it, how many YEARS did Tiger go without missing a cut?  That's dominance right there.  How many cuts did Rory and Brooks miss this last year alone?

Honestly, these two are a snooze fest in competitive fire.  Brooks used to not say anything, and he was better off.  Because now when he talks, what he says isn't worth repeating or talking about, because he's an average pro who happened to win 4 majors recently.

And man, talk about a guy who has gone MIA.  What in the hell is wrong with DJ?  Man, if there was ever a player that should have at least a handful of majors, and should be winning at a regular clip, it's him.  But he's simply vanished from the elite talk.

Again, it just goes to prove that none of these snapper heads are even close to what Tiger Woods was, even on one of Tiger's "off" years.  This is beyond stupid, and a ridiculous joke.

Yes, it's a shame that none of these guys are comparable to the greatest or at least most dominant player to ever play the game.

You could say the same thing in the 80 and 90s too. Jack spoiled folks.

 

Having perspective is key. Both of these guys are 30 or younger and Phil didn't even win a major at that point in his career.. There is a lot of golf left to play. We'll see how it plays out. 

 

Tiger created this parity btw. He brought so many kids/athletes to golf. He also brought enough money to it to create all these great pros. It's part of the reason there is less dominance imo. 

[Quigleyd]

Rory and Brooks are a couple of my fav golfers right now. There are some young guns and rookies that have my attention but I digress. Brooks was correct in his current assessment. that being said, my prediction is that by the end of 2020 not only will Rory be ranked higher than Brooks but Brooks will not be in the top in world rankings. You can quote me. haha. 

HOT TAKE!!!!!! 

[revkev]

I’m still staggered over Watson being called a “placeholder” and grouped with Norman and Couples who between them won 3 majors - Watson won 5 Opens. You also had Seve and Faldo in that era - there just wasn’t a Jack or Tiger

You can’t always have a Jack or Tiger - I’m sorry if guys find Brooks and Rory or Jordan and JT boring - these guys are hardly placeholders - there are legitimate top tier Hall of Famers in this group. They just aren’t Jack and Tiger.

Well there’s no Jim Brown in the NFL or Babe Ruth in baseball either - they still play the games, they are fun to watch if you like that sport.

I will continue to watch golf when I’m not playing and look forward to when’s few of the top players are in the mix.


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[Quigleyd]

On 11/9/2019 at 7:02 AM, revkev said:

I’m still staggered over Watson being called a “placeholder” and grouped with Norman and Couples who between them won 3 majors - Watson won 5 Opens. You also had Seve and Faldo in that era - there just wasn’t a Jack or Tiger

You can’t always have a Jack or Tiger - I’m sorry if guys find Brooks and Rory or Jordan and JT boring - these guys are hardly placeholders - there are legitimate top tier Hall of Famers in this group. They just aren’t Jack and Tiger.

Well there’s no Jim Brown in the NFL or Babe Ruth in baseball either - they still play the games, they are fun to watch if you like that sport.

I will continue to watch golf when I’m not playing and look forward to when’s few of the top players are in the mix.


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There is no Jim Brown or Babe Ruth but there is a Mike Trout. Probably the best baseball player to ever live. He just plays in Anaheim instead of New York.. 

I really wish there was a way to to drop prime Tiger, prime Jack, Prime Arnie, prime Hogan all into today and see what it would look like. 

[ncwoz]

On 10/17/2019 at 11:57 AM, GSwag said:

he's an average pro who happened to win 4 majors recently.

I didn't realize there was such a thing as an average pro who's won 4 majors...that puts Brooks (and Rory btw) tied for 20th. With another win they're tied with Phil and others. Two more wins and your starting to get into company with the likes of Faldo/Trevino/Palmer/Snead. As they're both playing very well and young enough to win some more, calling either of them "average" feels like a remarkable understatement to me.

Not disagreeing that neither are even remotely in Tiger's atmosphere, but let's be real. Tiger's career is in extremely elite air, in a sport that's been around for quite a while. Comparing every new talent to Tiger is frankly not fair. The chances we see another "Tiger" in our lifetime is extremely small.

[Bob M]

Brooks is the first guy since Tiger that has the “eye of the tiger” and knows how to finish out a tournament to win , For 1 year I said the same for Jordan Spieth, but he just petered out . There is no contest between Brooks and Rory- I would love Rory to really step up his game at the end of a tournament when he is on the leader board. It would make for great golf.