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Not looking for any conflict here.But in general.Most PGA tour players are extremely weak for their builds.I will agree that they work out more than previous generations of pros.But in my observations.They just are very weak for an professional male athlete.Ive worked out with many professional athletes that are some of the most strongest-flexible-coordinated individuals I’ve ever met.I would never trade my physique for any current pga male tour player.So what makes these guys so unique?How are they so gifted in what they do?

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Not looking for any conflict here.But in general.Most PGA tour players are extremely weak for their builds.I will agree that they work out more than previous generations of pros.But in my observations.They just are very weak for an professional male athlete.Ive worked out with many professional athletes that are some of the most strongest-flexible-coordinated individuals I’ve ever met.I would never trade my physique for any current pga male tour player.So what makes these guys so unique?How are they so gifted in what they do?
You can't be serious....

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9 minutes ago, dhartmann34 said:

emoji23.pngemoji38.png You can't be serious....

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My reaction as well. You can't think people like Brooks and DJ aren't in peak physical shape. They are in the gym 7 days a week.

On the flip side, is Pat Perez "fit"? No, but he is definately an athlete when it comes to golf. He may not be an athlete in the traditional sense but neither is someone like CC Sabathia. But they both have athletic talent when it comes to their respective sports. 

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My reaction as well. You can't think people like Brooks and DJ aren't in peak physical shape. They are in the gym 7 days a week.
On the flip side, is Pat Perez "fit"? No, but he is definately an athlete when it comes to golf. He may not be an athlete in the traditional sense but neither is someone like CC Sabathia. But they both have athletic talent when it comes to their respective sports. 
Yup. These guys have crazy training regimines... And not just the top players. The guys that are even at the lower level, web.com and even Monday qualifying.... have incredible strength, flexibility, and overall fitness.

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Not looking to start a conflict but immediately posts a topic that will definitely start a conflict. LOL

Look, I'm not one you'd call athletic in terms of my physique, but I can tell you as someone who's played a lot of sports growing up and done them all at very high levels, golf was by far the hardest sport I ever learned how to play. Athleticism doesn't make a good golfer. It can help but it's not the be all end all.

And why should that even matter? If you're capable of playing on tour, who gives a hoot what your physique is? Plus there's more than a few examples of guys playing on tour who would be considered athletes at any level and that didn't stop the Johnny Millers of the world from criticizing them for getting too jacked.

It's a pointless argument to make. Golf isn't a sport that demands the perfect physique. That should be celebrated because it means anyone can make it to the professional level regardless if they're 350lbs or 150lbs. It doesn't matter. If you're good at golf, you're good at golf. Period.

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3 hours ago, Edveed said:

I would never trade my physique for any current pga male tour player.

Would you still be unwilling to talk trades if it included Fedex cup ranking/cash?

Final and only offer - Jason Dufner

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Guys like the late Rich Piana, Bradley Martin, Kai Greene, Sadik Hadzovic and the list goes on and on of pro lifters. These guys are about bulk and mass. Where as a pro golfer is about functional core muscles. Sure, the look isn’t as impressive as the list of studs above. But I assure you that it is perfect for a game like golf. It’s about precision and repetition. If your looking for natural bulk  or power lifter  show looks. You will never find this on any golf tour. But you will find many in great cardio yoga driven builds. This isn’t a sport about 55 dumbbell curls and 300 lbs bench press. It’s about medicine ball / lunges / cable and elastic band workouts

Having a back that one can use as a movie screen isnt golf. Or needed for playing the level these guys do. The lifters have a look that works great on a beach. But won’t be very effective on a golf course 

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Weird that a guy like JT who is long and lanky can hit the ball as far as guys who are bigger, or someone like Ricky who is short and thin hits it 300+.

Proper swing mechanics trump size. 

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When you say "weak for their builds" are you referring to weight lifting capability?  I'm guessing the majority on tour would surprise us in that capability; even considering that isn't likely a specific end goal of their exercise routines.  It's my impression that current era PGA Pros are, by and large, in better physical shape that their counterparts of yesteryear.  Except perhaps that one popular picture of Arnie in his heyday - anyone want to arm wrestle after the match? 😂

 

10 hours ago, Edveed said:

Not looking for any conflict here.But in general.Most PGA tour players are extremely weak for their builds

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13 hours ago, Edveed said:

Not looking for any conflict here.But in general.Most PGA tour players are extremely weak for their builds.I will agree that they work out more than previous generations of pros.But in my observations.They just are very weak for an professional male athlete.Ive worked out with many professional athletes that are some of the most strongest-flexible-coordinated individuals I’ve ever met.I would never trade my physique for any current pga male tour player.So what makes these guys so unique?How are they so gifted in what they do?

Two comments. 

First, you've made a claim without providing anything to back up that claim.  So please bring us some kind of evidence that PGA Tour players are weak.  You might also want to define what type of strength you're talking about. 

Second, please try to explain why you think strength is so important in golf.  We're swinging an implement that weighs less than a pound, to me great strength simply doesn't matter.  Strength in the core, strength enough to grip the club appropriately, yes.  But beyond that, it gets down to flexibility, proper sequencing, and hand-eye coordination.  

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Whenever someone starts off a post with, "I'm not looking for a conflict....."   Thats exactly what they are looking for!  So here goes....  I have had the good fortune to work at a number of LPGA and PGA Tour Events.   The one thing that stood out to me the most was their overall appearance.  Now there are exceptions to every rule and there is no doubt you could provide a list from both tours that supports the argument  professional golfers are not fit/strong/conditioned.   However the vast majority of professional athletes on both the LPGA and PGA tour are fit; strong, flexible, coordinated and conditioned.  

Don't let the smooth taste fool you.  If you go back in time and look at all of sports you will find examples of athletes who on the surface would appear not fit or strong.  Would you not have to be fit/strong to throw a one hundred mile an hour fast ball 115 times over a four hour period?  Would you not have to be fit/strong to carry 280lbs of body weight up and down the basketball floor for 48 straight minutes? And finally does it not take strength and fitness to walk over 6 miles a day for 5 straight days (includes practice round) hitting hundreds of Golf balls at 80% strength with a nominal margin for error????  

The topics on this forum seem to repeat themselves a lot.  This topic was discussed at nauseam sometime last year with the first posting stating Golfers are not athletes/athletic and that Golf was more of a game than a sport.  There are all kinds of ways to play Golf.  You can certainly make it a game if you are riding a Golf Cart, smoking cigars and drinking your favorite cold beverage.  In this case you would not necessary have to be an athlete or athletic to enjoy your outing.   Just as you can sit behind the 7/11 smoking weed while drinking a forty then go play basketball.  What you may be doing is considered by most an athletic endeavor but believe me the final product is far from athletic.     

To play any sport at the highest level you most be in varying degrees; strong, flexible, coordinated, conditioned and mentally tough.    

 

 

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Let’s instead, talk about something that actually has some merit.

Ketchup doesn’t belong on a hot dog. Change my mind.


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Toilet Paper goes over the top.  Those who prefer in underneath are disturbing human beings!

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12 hours ago, Edveed said:

Not looking for any conflict here.But in general.Most PGA tour players are extremely weak for their builds.I will agree that they work out more than previous generations of pros.But in my observations.They just are very weak for an professional male athlete.Ive worked out with many professional athletes that are some of the most strongest-flexible-coordinated individuals I’ve ever met.I would never trade my physique for any current pga male tour player.So what makes these guys so unique?How are they so gifted in what they do?

I'm inclined to laugh this off as well, but I will give you the most simple explanation there is. PGA Tour players train to play on the PGA Tour. They aren't training to play football. What's your point?

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16 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Let’s instead, talk about something that actually has some merit.

Ketchup doesn’t belong on a hot dog. Change my mind.


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Here comes the most unpopular opinion in this whole thread 😁:

I can't stand hot dogs. 

12 minutes ago, sixcat said:

Toilet Paper goes over the top.  Those who prefer in underneath are disturbing human beings!

Agreed. 

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