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I have an older set of TM Rocketbladz Tour irons that I still enjoy but would like to see if a new set of shafts would perform better. Is there any way to get fit for new shafts for older irons? I know they can use the Mizuno shaft optimizer and any new irons have interchangeable heads. How do you get custom fit for old irons...? thx

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  • 3 wood: :taylormade-small:  M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft
  • 4-gw irons:  :mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped)
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As old as those clubs are, it's not worth it. 

The cost of buying new shafts and having your clubs reshafted will be around $400-500, much more than what the clubs are worth

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:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:srixon-small: ZU85 18* Tour AD 95X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
 MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-9 Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 46F - 54S - 59D
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:bridgestone-small: Tour B X
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Really the only way to do it is to find a similar head style that is new and try shafts in it.

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In my :mizuno-small: BR-D4 Stand Bag

:ping-small: G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X
:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:srixon-small: ZU85 18* Tour AD 95X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
 MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-9 Oban CT 115 X(-)
:titelist-small: Vokey SM7 46F - 54S - 59D
:mizuno-small: M Craft II
:bridgestone-small: Tour B X
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I reality if you went for a regular iron fitting a shaft recommendation should be part of the process.

Unless there is some massive design difference between your set and the set fit with you should get your answer.

Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg ACCRA tour Z GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - 33" 3 deg loft 70 lie, lrg slight line slightly toe hang

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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On 9/27/2019 at 8:05 AM, jlukes said:

As old as those clubs are, it's not worth it. 

The cost of buying new shafts and having your clubs reshafted will be around $400-500, much more than what the clubs are worth

This is spot on. 

Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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...  Well here is a dissenting vote, I think RBZ Tours are outstanding irons and if they fit you and you like them, I think they are well worth re-shafting. The cost of most new pro line irons are well over $1,000 and especially considering the RBZ Tours are not forged and will last for years. I also think the Mizuno Optimizer will help you learn exactly what type of shaft that fits your swing. Fine tuning similar shafts for your specific irons will take a custom fitting. But if you are not sure of what shaft fits your swing type, the Optimizer is really an amazing fitting tool and will match your swing with a specific type of shaft. That said, if KB Tours are a good fit for you, I doubt any new shaft will perform noticeably better. Of course if you need a completely different type of shaft with a stiffer tip or one that produces less spin, then the performance difference will be worth the upgrade.

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM Max ... Diamana Limited 55R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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20 hours ago, chisag said:

The cost of new irons is well over $1,000

You're a font of knowledge, but with this you are incorrect. Sub 70 irons are very very good and they run about $550 or less. You can have a set of very good Maltby irons made for peanuts. Hogans will set you back about $700 or so. The big OEMs charging over $1000 for a set of irons, which often start at a 4 or 5 iron and go to PW is a joke.

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Hybrid: TBA
Irons: :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0
Wedge: :cleveland-small: Smartsole S
Putter :yes-small: Tracy
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43 minutes ago, MattF said:

You're a font of knowledge, but with this you are incorrect. Sub 70 irons are very very good and they run about $550 or less. You can have a set of very good Maltby irons made for peanuts. Hogans will set you back about $700 or so. The big OEMs charging over $1000 for a set of irons, which often start at a 4 or 5 iron and go to PW is a joke.

And none of them offer a fitting... At best, you can demo a couple of clubs to test independently on the course, but empirical data to base a purchase decision on will likely be sparse - since we don't all own a Track Man or have access to one.

I'm not saying that the brands mentioned aren't reasonable options for a new club purchase, but for the purpose of the discussion being held, they offer little guarantee that the OP would be any better off than he is currently.

 

I've thought about trying some different shafts in my current irons as I do quite enjoy them, but I personally couldn't justify the cost. It'd be different if I felt confident in my ability to fit myself and make the swap on my own, but not sure I want to tackle that right now. For myself personally, I'd rather go to a quality fitter that utilizes the Mizuno tool and get brand new, fully tailored clubs.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Aldila RIP Alpha 60 S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Bridgestone J40 CB (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach SOFT Premier 4 34"
Ball: Bridgestone Tour B XS
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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1 hour ago, MattF said:

You're a font of knowledge, but with this you are incorrect. Sub 70 irons are very very good and they run about $550 or less. You can have a set of very good Maltby irons made for peanuts. Hogans will set you back about $700 or so. The big OEMs charging over $1000 for a set of irons, which often start at a 4 or 5 iron and go to PW is a joke.

Cobra and Srixon are under $1000. Also the big companies have larger r&d departments and marketing that go into the cost along with the tools/machines needed to make the parts. 

 

Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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On 9/27/2019 at 6:32 AM, jlukes said:

Really the only way to do it is to find a similar head style that is new and try shafts in it.

This. 

I did this recently because I want to know what my options are moving from stiff to xstiff flex, so they had me hit the newer clubhead that was most similar to my current irons. While this will not get as dialed in as a full fitting, it will definitely get you some good options if you wanted to reshaft your clubs. 

I also disagree about a new set for one reason. When you stand over the ball you need to feel confident that the stick in your hand is going to allow you to pure a shot exactly where you want it. If your clubheads help with that, it could be worth some new shafts. I wouldn’t close the door on new clubs, as you may like some even more, but sometimes things just work for people. 

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2 hours ago, MattF said:

You're a font of knowledge, but with this you are incorrect. Sub 70 irons are very very good and they run about $550 or less. You can have a set of very good Maltby irons made for peanuts. Hogans will set you back about $700 or so. The big OEMs charging over $1000 for a set of irons, which often start at a 4 or 5 iron and go to PW is a joke.

 

... Since the OP was speaking about tour level irons from TaylorMade and possibly Mizuno, I was thinking about those irons as well as most of the big name OEMs top of the line irons. But of course you are correct and I should have qualified my answer. Plenty of irons out there like you mentioned and more for under $1K. 

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM Max ... Diamana Limited 55R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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except none of the companies like sbu70 and maltby make an iron in LH for that level.  Like Golfworks and would get theirs first

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Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg ACCRA tour Z GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed

Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers

Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce

Putter - 33" 3 deg loft 70 lie, lrg slight line slightly toe hang

Ball - truvis

Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD.

HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio.

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