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Hi, my name is Rich.  I'm the creator and founder of NEXShot Golf.  I'm about to launch my first product, NEXShot Pro on Kickstarter and wanted to get some feedback about the product before the launch.  It's a Game-Improvement Chipping Game that I've spent the last 2 years developing and tweaking to get just right.  Unlike other golf games on the market, the NEXShot Pro will tell you how your ball will land instead of just where it lands.  It's designed to reject bad shots, promote good shots, and help improve shot displacement, distance control, and trajectory.  The objective of the game is to land your ball on the 2 types of turf, or in the cup.  If you miss the board, you get a bogey.  You can play flop shots, bump and runs, and even practice adding spin to your shots.  We're partnered with Swing Coach Club to utilize their Sci-Core practice ball which is the heaviest practice ball on the market.   You can also play outdoors with real balls as well.  If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.  I welcome any comments/criticisms/feedback.  

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Indoor balls, I've hit from 20 ft away.  My average distance I play at is 15 feet.  With real balls, the average player can hit from 12-15 feet.  I've landed one from 20+ but I had a lot of backspin on the shot.

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1 hour ago, tchat07 said:

What is max distance you can play at?

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Indoor balls, I've hit from 20 ft away.  My average distance I play at is 15 feet.  With real balls, the average player can hit from 12-15 feet.  I've landed one from 20+ but I had a lot of backspin on the shot.

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Looks like a fun practice set-up for chipping. Too bad you didn't have this available for purchase three months ago, I'll bet you would have had a bunch of orders. 

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Watched your videos and still not sold on the fact that is better than a chipping net or even a towel or basket. Similar to the Chippo set. At $140 ($95 if I sign up early) it isn’t something I would go for an indoor aid. If I am outdoors I want more versatility by having multiple targets to get more random practice instead of a single distance.

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Do you use the same amount of force when practicing with a real ball vs indoor ball? Won't that throw off your regular chipping tempo?

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

Watched your videos and still not sold on the fact that is better than a chipping net or even a towel or basket. Similar to the Chippo set. At $140 ($95 if I sign up early) it isn’t something I would go for an indoor aid. If I am outdoors I want more versatility by having multiple targets to get more random practice instead of a single distance.

In the same boat as @cnosil.  The "Sci-core" balls are interesting; I've not heard of them before.  I guess one question I have is that, you state the landing pad can be used with regular balls - that being the case, why not just use them? My thinking here is that the Sci-core balls are somewhere between hollow plastic/wiffle balls and real balls, and unlike hollow plastic, can still cause damage indoors? My hats off to you for the entrepreneurial effort and wish you success.  Perhaps we'll see you on Shark Tank 🙂.

 

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32 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said:

In the same boat as @cnosil.  The "Sci-core" balls are interesting; I've not heard of them before.  I guess one question I have is that, you state the landing pad can be used with regular balls - that being the case, why not just use them? My thinking here is that the Sci-core balls are somewhere between hollow plastic/wiffle balls and real balls, and unlike hollow plastic, can still cause damage indoors? My hats off to you for the entrepreneurial effort and wish you success.  Perhaps we'll see you on Shark Tank 🙂.

 

The balls were the most interesting part for me as well.   I think they are like the almost golf balls; just slightly cheaper.  I have a few of the almost golf balls and they don't break anything;  I have hit windows and lamps with them 🙂

 

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Sci Core balls are made by another company and you can buy them on Amazon. 12 for 25$

I can piece together a chipping net and small hitting mat for cheaper than the discounted price. 

At full price this product makes zero sense 

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6 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

Looks like a fun practice set-up for chipping. Too bad you didn't have this available for purchase three months ago, I'll bet you would have had a bunch of orders. 

haha, yeah.  Tell me about it...better late than never.

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3 hours ago, jlukes said:

Sci Core balls are made by another company and you can buy them on Amazon. 12 for 25$

I can piece together a chipping net and small hitting mat for cheaper than the discounted price. 

At full price this product makes zero sense 

You can definitely do that.  I won't argue with you there.  And yes, Sci Core balls are available on Amazon.  I currently have a partnership with Swing Coach Club to be my ball supplier because they are the best practice ball on the market.     The shortcoming that I've identified about chipping nets is that you can skull a ball into the small target of a chipping net and convince yourself that you accurately hit the target.  NEXShot Pro is a gamified chipping aid that provides feed back and lets you know how you hit your ball on top of how accurately you aimed.  As someone who struggles with his short game, one of my biggest issues was overshooting the hole.  I could never get my distance control and trajectory down.  Chipping nets don't provide that type of feedback.  Thank you for your feedback though, this is why I'm here.  Appreciate your time.

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6 hours ago, cnosil said:

Watched your videos and still not sold on the fact that is better than a chipping net or even a towel or basket. Similar to the Chippo set. At $140 ($95 if I sign up early) it isn’t something I would go for an indoor aid. If I am outdoors I want more versatility by having multiple targets to get more random practice instead of a single distance.

I might need to upload better videos.  What I'm trying to prove is that chipping nets, towels and baskets are just targets.  They don't give you feedback on how your ball is landing.  To me, that's the most important part.  If your trajectory is off, you'll overshoot or undershoot the hole by a large margin.  The NEXShot Pro is aimed at helping to gain confidence with your distance control and trajectory.  Chippo currently retails at $189.  To me, it's a glorified chipping net.  In terms of versatility.  There is no set distance to hit from with NEXShot Pro.  I struggle more with a short 3 foot downhill chip rather than a 10 ft lag chip.  All I'm doing is supply the mat, balls, and board.  The rest is up to you.  I appreciate your feedback and will definitely post better videos.

 

Here's a link to you Youtube video I made back a few months ago explicitly comparing the NEXShot Pro to a chipping net.

 

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4 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

In the same boat as @cnosil.  The "Sci-core" balls are interesting; I've not heard of them before.  I guess one question I have is that, you state the landing pad can be used with regular balls - that being the case, why not just use them? My thinking here is that the Sci-core balls are somewhere between hollow plastic/wiffle balls and real balls, and unlike hollow plastic, can still cause damage indoors? My hats off to you for the entrepreneurial effort and wish you success.  Perhaps we'll see you on Shark Tank 🙂.

 

Thanks @fixurdivot.  Even if you don't support our campaign, I still encourage you to try out the Sc-Core balls.  They're a dense foam and I use them everyday indoors for practice.  I've hit everything from walls, windows, furniture.  Could you knock over a vase? Yes, but remember we're chipping here.  If you're afraid of breaking something, there's something inherently off with your swing speed for chipping. 😛. Thank you for the comment and support.

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Just as an example, I can buy this bundle from Rukket, a trusted supplier of hitting nets, for $59.99

It includes hitting turf (both rough and fairway), a target with multiple aim points, and a dozen foam practice balls. 

https://www.amazon.com/Rukket-Chipping-Accessories-Backyard-Adjustable/dp/B078JMMLV9/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=golf+chipping+practice&qid=1588275628&sr=8-13

Or if I wanted to buy the balls you say are the best, those are $25

I can buy the Rukket chipping net for $30

A callaway hitting mat (which I have and is very sturdy and good quality) for $38

All 3 of those things can be had for $93, which is still below your promotional price, and extremely cheaper than your standard retail price.

 

 

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Maybe I am being naive, but I don't understand how hitting a foam ball onto rough length turf angled back at me is supposed to give me "accurate feedback" as to how my ball would be landing on a green.  And what if I want to use this outside - how does your little ramp contraption do when you hit real balls at it?  The chipping nets mentioned above can be used with real and foam balls and provide the exact same level of feedback.  

Not trying to crush your dreams here, but you are coming of like an infomercial salesman and not providing any real facts.

I respect your ingenuity and perseverance in trying to bring a product to market, but I am not sure a market exists for this product -- especially at this price point.

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1 minute ago, jlukes said:

Just as an example, I can buy this bundle from Rukket, a trusted supplier of hitting nets, for $59.99

It includes hitting turf (both rough and fairway), a target with multiple aim points, and a dozen foam practice balls. 

https://www.amazon.com/Rukket-Chipping-Accessories-Backyard-Adjustable/dp/B078JMMLV9/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=golf+chipping+practice&qid=1588275628&sr=8-13

Or if I wanted to buy the balls you say are the best, those are $25

I can buy the Rukket chipping net for $30

A callaway hitting mat (which I have and is very sturdy and good quality) for $38

All 3 of those things can be had for $93, which is still below your promotional price, and extremely cheaper than your standard retail price.

Here's a video I made comparing the NEXShot Pro to a chipping net.   If you're still not convinced, I have more work to do.  I honestly appreciate your feedback and this is exactly what I'm looking for.  I'm not here to promote a product and make a quick buck.  Do I need to make a profit?  Yes. But I designed and developed this product myself and literally for myself.  I live in Chicago, I'm married, and have 2 kids and foam balls and a chipping net don't provide the type of feedback that the NEXShot Pro does.  Believe me.  I've tested everything out there for the last 2 years and I'm still looking to improve.  I'm trying to create an experience that as close to the real thing for guys like me who love the sport, but don't get the opportunity to get out as often as we can.  I think there's room for improvement when it comes to chipping aids.  I thing chipping nets are flawed.  They give you half the information you need for when you get back on the course.  Regardless if you support my product, I hope I can convince you that there needs to be a better way to practice chipping.  Thank you again for taking the time to comment.

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2 minutes ago, NEXShotGolf said:

Here's a video I made comparing the NEXShot Pro to a chipping net.   If you're still not convinced, I have more work to do.  I honestly appreciate your feedback and this is exactly what I'm looking for.  I'm not here to promote a product and make a quick buck.  Do I need to make a profit?  Yes. But I designed and developed this product myself and literally for myself.  I live in Chicago, I'm married, and have 2 kids and foam balls and a chipping net don't provide the type of feedback that the NEXShot Pro does.  Believe me.  I've tested everything out there for the last 2 years and I'm still looking to improve.  I'm trying to create an experience that as close to the real thing for guys like me who love the sport, but don't get the opportunity to get out as often as we can.  I think there's room for improvement when it comes to chipping aids.  I thing chipping nets are flawed.  They give you half the information you need for when you get back on the course.  Regardless if you support my product, I hope I can convince you that there needs to be a better way to practice chipping.  Thank you again for taking the time to comment.

 

If you are developing a target to promote hitting your landing point more accurately, isn't the entire concept of the hole pointless?  I do like the idea of a flat target to help practice landing point, but the hole doesn't provide any extra value here.  On a golf course, I am not trying to one-hop my chips into a hole, so it's inclusion in this type of training aid just seems superfluous

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10 minutes ago, jlukes said:

If you are developing a target to promote hitting your landing point more accurately, isn't the entire concept of the hole pointless?  I do like the idea of a flat target to help practice landing point, but the hole doesn't provide any extra value here.  On a golf course, I am not trying to one-hop my chips into a hole, so it's inclusion in this type of training aid just seems superfluous

That is something that has caused confusion with past reviewers.  The basis for the cup is more so to tell that that your trajectory and aim was correct.  If you can consistently one bounce into the cup, you have less of a chance of overshooting your chip shots on the green.  The cup is more of a "first bounce" indicator rather than an actual cup on the green.  I don't expect anyone to practice 1-bounce dunking their chip shots.  Imagine playing a bump and run, the cup should be the landing point of the first bounce.  Again, if that's confusing, then I have work to do and will do a better job of explaining the objective.  Let me know if this graphic helps.  I tried avoiding overly complicated images.  Thanks again.

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8 minutes ago, jlukes said:

If you are developing a target to promote hitting your landing point more accurately, isn't the entire concept of the hole pointless?  I do like the idea of a flat target to help practice landing point, but the hole doesn't provide any extra value here.  On a golf course, I am not trying to one-hop my chips into a hole, so it's inclusion in this type of training aid just seems superfluous

My guess is the hole provides verification that you hit the right spot. 

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