Popular Post Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2023 As some know. I work at a course and do a lot of the fitting and all the equipment sales there. This year (going back to the fall) has been a big driver release year. Titliest having launched the TSR line and PING relaxing the G430 after 2 years and the buzz about the Paradym. Add on Stealth2, Aerojet, Mizuno. Srixon all having new models. But we have seen a noticeable decline in driver sales and interest so far. I know it’s early in the season. But it’s a lot less than last year. There is some talk about the Paradym and people are asking about the G430. But no real buying internet. So this has be thinking that maybe OEM have finally reached a price threshold that consumers are saying, No more! . Many of the drivers hitting $600 and even $750 plus for a premium shaft. I know there are many retail guys here and those of us ho’s who usually buy w due year, what do you all say? GolfSpy_KFT, GPS111, Tbonia and 18 others 19 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment
Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted February 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2023 I guess I will answer your question with another question or kinda statement. Do you think the customers you have who likely have been fit before are knowledgeable enough that they feel there is better value in buying last year's release at what would be half the price? More golfers are being fit, more golfers are getting more knowledge and maybe this in turn is leading to "smarter" purchases. Or more value purchases knowing they can get 95+% of the performance at 50% of the price. Franc38, russtopherb, ParFore74x and 15 others 18 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 It is a difficult question, and a good one Rob. I guess the prices may be getting close to the area that would limit the "driver a year" (or more in your case Rob...haha). mindset the golf buying public have been operating under for the past several years. If sales volume is down... that could indicate a price threshold reached... or it could be a more educated golf buying market that realizes that the gains from from one year to the next, or one model to the next may not be work the investment... Personally, I like shiny and new, but I would agree the cost is getting to the point that I might pull back on my budget to every other year, rather than every year. 1 minute ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I guess I will answer your question with another question or kinda statement. Do you think the customers you have who likely have been fit before are knowledgeable enough that they feel there is better value in buying last year's release at what would be half the price? More golfers are being fit, more golfers are getting more knowledge and maybe this in turn is leading to "smarter" purchases. Or more value purchases knowing they can get 95+% of the performance at 50% of the price. we had a similar thought APH! sirchunksalot, GolfSpy_APH, GolfSpy_BNG and 1 other 4 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment
Javs Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I guess I will answer your question with another question or kinda statement. Do you think the customers you have who likely have been fit before are knowledgeable enough that they feel there is better value in buying last year's release at what would be half the price? More golfers are being fit, more golfers are getting more knowledge and maybe this in turn is leading to "smarter" purchases. Or more value purchases knowing they can get 95+% of the performance at 50% of the price. I agree entirely. I recently purchased a G425 LST when the G430 came out and paid a lot less. After hitting both and seeing minimal difference in distance and dispersion it was a no brainer! GolfSpy TCB, fozcycle, sirchunksalot and 5 others 8 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I guess I will answer your question with another question or kinda statement. Do you think the customers you have who likely have been fit before are knowledgeable enough that they feel there is better value in buying last year's release at what would be half the price? More golfers are being fit, more golfers are getting more knowledge and maybe this in turn is leading to "smarter" purchases. Or more value purchases knowing they can get 95+% of the performance at 50% of the price. Some places that might be the case But I don’t think so for our course. We are a public muni and while we offer fitting capabilities with qualified staff. Our customers are largely buy what I see on TV. Yes. Your player influence is a real thing. Maybe not to informed forum members but to the general buying public. Absoultly so. There are less people along me aboit the new Paradym or new stelath. I do think part of it is the Stealth2 affect. Last year it was new and radical. This year many think it’s just version 2 of the same thing. Maybe if a Rahm wins AGAIN today for the 3rd time with the Paradym maybe we’ll get a bit of a rush. But I think it is the price effect making people think this year more than before sirchunksalot, GolfSpy_APH, Garry Delaplane and 1 other 4 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment
ParFore74x Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Solid points. I believe that it is a combination of both price and knowledge. Everyone has their limits when it comes to prices. I heard a lot of balking at prices when they hit $500. Seeing some of them hit $700+ definitely has to limit the market. That being said, manufacturers may not sell a ton of the highest prices driver but they probably do sell enough to justify it. My guess would be that most people who are looking at a new driver are staying in that $500ish range with the stock shafts. As for the knowledge aspect, I feel that a lot of players have realized that a new driver every season may not be an improvement for their game so maybe buying a new driver every two or three seasons makes more sense. Golfspy_CG2, GolfSpy TCB, Javs and 2 others 4 1 Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° & 58° w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment
GolfSpy_BNG Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I’m probably a prime example of a fool and his money are soon parted as my current setup Srixon ZX5 MKII LS and autoflex shaft is pushing the grand mark and I’m still gonna try the Paradym/Wilson/Mizuno. As for the price going up, I see the bigger problem being how much the discount becomes when buying last years. Right now secondhand driver heads from last year land around $300 depending on condition. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see the used market price start to rise instead of new prices coming down if the oems aren’t selling as much as they think they should. ParFore74x, Garry Delaplane, Golfspy_CG2 and 6 others 8 1 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment
Blueberry_Squishie Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 High inflation would be playing a role as well. If you're looking to cut spending from your budget, not buying new golf clubs is an easy one. GPS111, Garry Delaplane, tsheaffer23 and 1 other 4 Quote Cobra F9 9.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X) Cobra Speedzone 15° (Tensei Blue X) Srixon H85 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0) Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S) Mizuno T20 51°, 55°, 59° (KBS $ Taper 120S) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 34" Srixon ZStar Link to comment
Popular Post GolfSpy_KFT Posted February 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2023 I am in the camp of just not being able to justify spending so much money on ONE club that I won’t use on every hole of the course. Part of that is just because I don’t have the budget for it but also because I know how fast they depreciate. I can go on global golf and get last year’s model for a significant savings in really good condition for a fraction of the cost. The logical thinker in me has a hard time looking past that. GPS111, Dweed, Garry Delaplane and 10 others 13 Quote Driver: TSi3 9* Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W MCA Kai'Li White 60 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 3H MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Snakebite Black 52/56/60 Hi-Rev 2.0 Black Stiff Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour X & ProV1x #LeftyGang Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Unofficial FootJoy Hyperflex BOA 2023 Review Unofficial Flightscope Mevo Review Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Jnoble89 said: because I know how fast they depreciate. I can go on global golf and get last year’s model for a significant savings in really good condition for a fraction of the cost. The logical thinker in me has a hard time looking past that. +1 on this. I have been buying previous model year equipment for over 20 years. Saved tons of money that way. ButchE, cnosil, Golf Dawg and 6 others 9 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think MGS did a survey on this, but I also wonder how often many are looking at replacing a driver. With last year being a good year for drivers and TSR getting a ton of hype and being well recognized, maybe it is also a factor of just not needing one because last year the larger purchase was made? GolfSpy_KFT 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
CrazyGolfNut Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I would like to buy a new driver but will not be getting the most current one on the market. I will be shopping for last years models and save some money. I remember when drivers hit the $250 price and everyone thought it was bad. Now they are $500 to $600??? I might have to take up bowling. fozcycle 1 Quote Driver _ Ping G400 Max Woods _ Ping G410 3 & 5 | Cleveland Launcher XL HALO 7 Hybrid _ Titleist 818 H1 5 Irons _ Titleist T300 6-GW Wedges _ Titleist SM9 52F & 56S Putter _ Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 2 or Rife Two Bar Hybrid Distance _ Bushnell Phantom 2 GPS | Precision Pro NX7 Pro Ball _ Titleist Pro V1 yellow GHIN _ HCP floats between 8 & 12 "Never bet against an old man with old clubs that have new grips" Link to comment
drb1956 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I purchased a G410 in 2020 for $399. That is my limit! And, I will be playing this driver for quite a few years. I am not one to be buying drivers every, or even every other year. My last driver, a Diablo Octane, I played for 10+ years. Not a club ho, as I try to make an informed purchase, and then stick with it. $600+ is kind of getting into stupid money territory fo me. Don't really care what the pros are playing... Golf Dawg, Golfspy_CG2, GolfSpy_KFT and 1 other 4 Quote Driver-Ping g410 SFT, 3W-Callaway Diablo Octane, Hybrids-Snake Eyes Viper 18*+ 21*, Irons-GigaGolf Reva Hybrid Irons 24*- 46*, Wedges-Cleveland CBX2's 50*54*58*, Putter-Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11c Link to comment
wbn Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I don't see anything to tempt me into buying a new driver. I'm fine with my 2 year old driver with an after market shaft. The new shaft was about 1/4 of the cost of a new driver. I believe that the industry has reached neasr peak level of limitations and new claims are so minimal that the cost does not justify any results which are probably also minimal. GPS111, Bassbeamer, Golfspy_CG2 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Bucky CC Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I'm in this exact dilemma right now. I'm a little wild off the tee (who isn't) and wouldn't mind seeing what's out there. On the other hand my Radspeed driver is only 2 years old and there's a very low probability that any of the new drivers will be a significant improvement over it. I can guarantee if drivers were a little cheaper I would be all over a new one. Looking at $600+ for a 2023 model ($850 for a Paradym with "stock" Ventus shaft) has me reluctant to even demo anything for fear of falling in love with something new. I do have some shop credit though so I'm sure I'll find a way to justify hitting up some demos once the snow melts. Golfspy_CG2 and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote Driver: RADSPEED 10.5°, Project X Even Flow RIPTIDE 60 6.5 Fairway Wood: Rogue ST LS 16.5°, Mitsubishi TENSEI AV White 75 X 3 Hybrid: F9, LA Golf Tour AXS Red 85 X 4 Iron: Ping G410 Crossover 5-PW: JPX 919 Forged, KBS Tour Stiff Wedges: Jet Black 50°08F, 54°12D, 58°08M, True Temper Dynamic Gold Black S200 Putter: StrokeLab White Hot OG #7, 35", Evnroll Tourtac grip Putter2: Array F-2 Currently testing the Edel Array putter Link to comment
Sparkee Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The latest trend I have noticed is players selling the head and keeping their shaft for their next one . So if you keep THE shaft that works for you and just look for the head you might want or even come across one that you have been wanting to try for a fraction of the cost . Micah T, Golfspy_CG2, drb1956 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
jdennish Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The prices are crazy. Most of the time when you get a handicapper like me around 16, It's the archer not the bow. I will be 66 in September and I think I need to be fitted, because my swing and speed have changed. I'm still searching for that magic club and it's just not there. I want the new Paradym, but I will go by what the fitter tells me at my local CC.He's the type that will tell you to keep what you got if there is minimal difference. I think it is time for me to go to a senior shaft, but we will see. GPS111, Golfspy_CG2, Garry Delaplane and 1 other 4 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 Driver with ACCURA Senior flex, 42.5 grams Ping G415 3 Wood Callaway Epic 5 Wood Ping G415 22* Hybrid Sub70 699 irons Aerotech Steel Fiber I70 graphite shafts an NO1 50 grips Sub70 286 Forged wedges 54* and 60* Scotty Cameron Phantom X putter with oversized Sweet Rollz grip True Pro Lux and True Links Knit shoes Link to comment
Stevem Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 In addition to the question as to whether Drivers are beginning to hit a pricing wall, we should also look into whether putters are or may soon do the same thing as a slow "flood" of Putters are now approaching the $ 500 price tag and far exceeding it with an exotic "putter specific" shaft. Former premium price tag OEMs like PXG and Scotty Cameron......no longer are. Not sure how long this will be sustainable for the flat sticks. Will be interesting to see, that is for damn sure. And I post this recognizing there will always be "boutique" putter companies that test the boundaries of price elasticity for a specific market of club afficionados. Golfspy_CG2, garyt1957 and 6 Million Dollar Man 3 Quote Link to comment
6 Million Dollar Man Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Not just because I play them but I wonder how disruptive PXG has been. During the Genesis they were advertising drivers at $199 again. They always have some sort of deal on their stuff. Because they are private we may never know how much of a market disruptor they are. But at my club im seeing more and more PXG headcovers. Second point. Once you have been fitted 5 or 6 times as I have, you just know. I swing at 90 MPH. Once you know a little about soft tip versus firm tip, shaft weight, etc. You can gamble on fitting yourself. I'm not tooting PXG's horn but they will walk you through the rest on the phone. Worked for me on a driver, two fairway woods and two wedges. The same mentality can be applied to any club manufacturer and versus $600+ it's worth a roll of the dice especially if you go to a place like Dick's and hit a few models. Edited February 20, 2023 by 6 Million Dollar Man Bulldog, fozcycle, GolfSpy SAM and 3 others 5 1 Quote LTDx Drive LTDx 3, 5 & 7 Fairway Metals Mizuno Hot Metal JPC 921 Irons 0311 Wedges--56° & 60° Blade Putter Tour Golf Ball Link to comment
burnsie Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think most golfers are becoming more aware of “slick” marketing as a way for OEMs to continue to gouge their customer base for ridiculous profits. Every year, religiously, they all come out with “the greatest driver ever made!”; until next year, and all that hype was just crap. THIS YEAR’S model is now the greatest! Folks, the technology just doesn’t evolve that quickly! Let’s face it, just because John Rahm can hit the snot out of the ball with his new Paradym doesn’t mean we all can! If you spray your tee shot invest $150 with a local pro and fix your swing. It’ll feel like a “Jailbreak!” MacAndrews 1 Quote Link to comment
null Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, burnsie said: I think most golfers are becoming more aware of “slick” marketing as a way for OEMs to continue to gouge their customer base for ridiculous profits. Every year, religiously, they all come out with “the greatest driver ever made!”; until next year, and all that hype was just crap. THIS YEAR’S model is now the greatest! Folks, the technology just doesn’t evolve that quickly! Let’s face it, just because John Rahm can hit the snot out of the ball with his new Paradym doesn’t mean we all can! If you spray your tee shot invest $150 with a local pro and fix your swing. It’ll feel like a “Jailbreak!” Hate to break the news to you, but this happens in every industry TVs, cars, phones, etc Yet internet golfers are the only once’s that whine about it incessantly If you don’t need a new driver, don’t buy one. If someone has the money to buy new clubs whenever they want, then more power to them. drb1956, russtopherb, chisag and 3 others 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment
burnsie Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, 6 Million Dollar Man said: Not just because I play them but I wonder how disruptive PXG has been. During the Genesis they were advertising drivers at $199 again. They always have some sort of deal on their stuff. Because they are private we may never know how much of a market disruptor they are. But at my club im seeing more and more PXG headcovers. Second point. Once you have been fitted 5 or 6 times as I have, you just know. I swing at 90 MPH. Once you know a little about soft tip versus firm tip, shaft weight, etc. You can gamble on fitting yourself. I'm not tooting PXG's horn but they will walk you through the rest on the phone. Worked for me on a driver, two fairway woods and two wedges. The same mentality can be applied to any club manufacturer and versus $600+ it's worth a roll of the dice especially if you go to a place like Dick's and hit a few models. 16 minutes ago, 6 Million Dollar Man said: During the Genesis they were advertising drivers at $199 again. If I’m not mistaken, these clubs are the 2021 0211 drivers. If you go on their website now you’ll find they’re all sold out! A great driver at a great price! What a novel idea!! 6 Million Dollar Man and drb1956 1 1 Quote Link to comment
BigUrsus Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 R580xd came out 20 years ago with a $500 pricetag. I'd say driver prices have remained fairly unchanged since. russtopherb 1 Quote Driver: Rogue Sub Zero 10.5* Oban Kiyoshi Gold tipped 1" 44.5" NDMC Mid 4w: Epic flash Oban Kiyoshi Gold tipped 2" 42.5" NDMC Mid 3-PW: MP-18, 3i FLYhi MMC, 4-6i MMC, 7-PW MB, KBS C-taper Lite X-stiff NDMC Mid Wedges: SM7 49*F, 54*D, 59*M KBS C-taper Lite X-stiff NDMC Mid Putter: Lajosi Sensor Breakthrough Golf Tour Stability Shaft 34" SuperStroke GTR 1.0 Ball: MTB-X Link to comment
Mitch H Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think it is a combination of things. I can think of three. 1) prices are too high 2) customers are more educated 3) COVID. Let me explain. Golf demand always goes through up and down cycles. When COVID hit, and golf was one of the only exercise one could get outside that was acceptable given the almost automatic social distancing, demand went through the roof. Now that the world is getting close to equilibrium, people are no longer playing golf because there are other things to do. So because of the world getting into a COVID equilibrium, demand is going way down. my $0.02 Quote Mitchell Heller All lefty Taylormade Stealth Plus - KBS TD 50 gram Regular flex. Sometimes Autoflex 405 Taylormade Stealth 3HL Fairway wood - Ventus Red Regular flex Taylormade Stealth 4 and 5 hybrid Ventus Red Regular Flex PXG 28 degree hybrid KBS TGI 70 Regular flex Taylormade P790 6,7,8,9,P 3 degrees flat - Ventus Red Regular Flex Taylormade MG3 50 and 54 degree 3 degrees flat - Ventus Red Regular Flex Taylormade MG 60 degree - True Temper Dynamic Gold Wedge Shaft LAB MEZZ 1 putter OnCore ELIXR 2020 Link to comment
tarrantian Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 15 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I guess I will answer your question with another question or kinda statement. Do you think the customers you have who likely have been fit before are knowledgeable enough that they feel there is better value in buying last year's release at what would be half the price? More golfers are being fit, more golfers are getting more knowledge and maybe this in turn is leading to "smarter" purchases. Or more value purchases knowing they can get 95+% of the performance at 50% of the price. Where are you seeing last year’s at half the price? THAT is one of the biggest issues for me, in that I used to lag a year behind for the very reasons you cite, and indeed the savings on the outgoing model were substantial… I’m finding in the past few years (at least here in Canada) the price drops for older models are no where near 50% - More likely 25-30% max. Even 2 year old models aren’t even hitting the half off mark. Hence, my thinking is why not get the latest version as the savings don’t justify me waiting… It is getting ridiculous however, I just dropped $2K CAN on Saturday for 3 clubs LOL!! Quote Qi10 Ruby Red 460 Driver 9.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S) BRNR Mini-Driver 11.5D* (Fujikura Vista Pro 55S) Stealth 2 Plus 3 Fairway 15.0D (Fujikura Vista Pro 65S) Stealth 2 Plus 3 Hybrid 19.5D (Fujikura Vista Pro HB 70S) Stealth Irons (KBS C-Taper Lite 110 S) (4-LW) Golf Pride CP2 Pro Jumbo Grips (All Metals / Irons) My TP Soto Silver and Black Putters* (Custom / KBS CT Tour) - Golf Pride Pistol My Spider Tour X3 Putter* (Custom / KBS Black PVD) - SuperStroke Zenergy Pistol GT 1.0 Supreme Cart Bag (Black / Red) TP5 Golf Ball 4.0 Push Cart / SX550 GPS / ProX3 Laser Rangefinder (*Interchangeable to adhere to 14 club rule) Link to comment
John Bachman Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I usually get the previous year’s model when the price drops. I do see the market getting so over saturated that I believe equipment companies will hit a wall in the near future. That and the cost of new equipment is not a positive trend. Quote Link to comment
Frye Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Was at my local golf store yesterday. Hybrids for $280. Okay. I'm still playing my 10+ yo Cobra Baffler Rail H's. I'll stick with those thank you. Quote Frye Link to comment
russtopherb Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 It's February. What's this years sales trends vs last years at this point in time? You've got a good portion of the US that isn't able to golf right now, so why would they rush out to buy a driver they can't really use for another few months? Feels like this subject is a trend every single release season. "They're too expensive!" "Marketing lies!!" and then at the end of the year the big OEMs announce massive revenue for the year. So obviously people are buying. fozcycle 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
russtopherb Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, Golfspy_Lukes said: Hate to break the news to you, but this happens in every industry TVs, cars, phones, etc Yet internet golfers are the only once’s that whine about it incessantly If you don’t need a new driver, don’t buy one. If someone has the money to buy new clubs whenever they want, then more power to them. This right here. Guitar manufacturers come out with new models every year. The Strat and the Les Paul are pretty much the same design as they were when they were introduced. Sure, different woods now and the electronics are better, but I have never once in my life heard a musician exclaim that they bought an instrument last year and dammit they should have waited because THIS year's model blah blah blah. Golfspy_CG2 and chisag 1 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
Headhammer Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I would agree with others that it's a combination that prices are too high, consumers are more educated and they've become less influenced by the faux claims of longer/straighter every year. While I've liked the looks of a number of new drivers the last few years I stopped chasing them thinking I was going to be bombing it past my previous model. All that being said, people are still buying they latest and greatest. Last night while taking my trash can to the curb a neighbor was walking his dog and I asked "what's new?" He proceeded to tell me he just ordered the new TItleist driver for $600 without ever hitting it! fozcycle 1 Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment
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