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I nearly broke into tears Monday when after three swings on the driving range (the last sounding a little funny) and on the third hole I pulled the headcover off my G400 LST to see this on the top of the crown. 

Good news: PING already has me a replacement on the way but they are OUT of G400 LST so they are sending me a G410 LST.

Which is pretty awesome but I'm curious if anyone who played the 400 and switched to the 410 what changes they might have seen or felt. Just curious what some of you spies might have noticed between the two models.

Also, you might be able to see from the picture but that top crown is insanely thin. They say it's the width of two pieces of paper. Pretty impressive engineering to move the weight around like that in the head. 

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That's not the first G400 driver I've seen crack somewhere.  And yeah, PING is really good at making good on something like this.

Funny you mentioned it, but I've had friends hand me their G410 driver and let me hit it, and honestly, I'm not a fan of the 410, compared to my G400 clubs.  The feel of it is a lot harder, and I just hit the G400 a lot better.  Granted, both 410s that I hit were stiff shaft, which does not work for me, but the feel was way off for my tastes.

I would imagine though that with the proper shaft in your replacement that you'll be fine.

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Wowzers.  Dial back the swing speed from 200 MPH to 124mph. LOL.  Wow.  Crazy how thin that is.  Incredible.

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Not surprised, Ping has great Customer Service like many of the top OEM’s.


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I haven't seen any of the 400's do that. I have the M6 and that has happened once already. I think this is the nature of the CF crowns now. 

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Dang, that is a serious crack!  I think you'll love the G410 and would bet that if you speak with PING they'll switch you back to a G400 if it does not work out and they have them back in stock.

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Odd that the factory is out of the 400’s. I know a few guys that preferred their 400 over the 410. The 400 LST is a 440 I think, and I wonder if the 410 LST is a 460?

I don’t think the 400 LST will be going out of style for a long time... it’s just one of those clubs they got right the first time...

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17 hours ago, Sluggo42 said:

Odd that the factory is out of the 400’s. I know a few guys that preferred their 400 over the 410. The 400 LST is a 440 I think, and I wonder if the 410 LST is a 460?

I don’t think the 400 LST will be going out of style for a long time... it’s just one of those clubs they got right the first time...

Not surprising that Ping is out of the G400 LST given that the G410 line replaced it 10 months ago (even though the G410 LST was released later) and the likelihood that they probably produced less of the LST vs the other two versions. It is better for Ping to cut production earlier rather than stock up in case of warranty replacement because A) less older inventory to potentially get stuck with and B) most people are fine with receiving a newer version as a replacement anyways. 

Worst case scenario for the OP is to sell the G410 LST if he doesn't like it and buy a used/NOS G400 LST (and likely have a little $ left over). 

Size difference between the two LST versions is negligible:

400 LST = 445cc vs 410 LST = 450cc

 

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11 hours ago, Grand Finauly said:

Mine cracked in exactly the same spot... I don’t want the 410 personally. Plus I have an upgraded GD Ad shaft. Ugh! I’ve broken more pings than any other manufacturer, but ping has always made good on it.. this will be tough since they changed their tip in the 410.

If the give you a new G410 as a replacement, sell it and buy another G400.

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Wow sorry to hear about the crack but great that they replace it and with a newer model. Not so good that a few people here have the same experience of cracking but good it is always replaced with a newer model.

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I should probably circle back and say PING took great care of the situation. Brand new G410LST. I will have to say first two weeks with the new driver, I missed the G400 badly but now after a few months (hitting it almost every day on my skytrak in the garage), I'm super happy with the G410LST. I can't honestly tell much difference forgiveness or distance but it does have quite a bit of ability to tweek the weights and lofts over the G400. Excellent club, excellent company, I couldn't be happier. 

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I should probably circle back and say PING took great care of the situation. Brand new G410LST. I will have to say first two weeks with the new driver, I missed the G400 badly but now after a few months (hitting it almost every day on my skytrak in the garage), I'm super happy with the G410LST. I can't honestly tell much difference forgiveness or distance but it does have quite a bit of ability to tweek the weights and lofts over the G400. Excellent club, excellent company, I couldn't be happier. 

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I have the 410 plus and still happy.


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I had the face crack on a G400 LST.  I "luvvvvved" that driver.  Ping replaced it with a new G410 LST (great customer service!).  I am still trying to get it dialed in, but it looks promising.  The distance seems comparable or even a little better at times, but I feel like I have to swing more aggressive to get the results that I was getting from my G400 LST.  I feel like the MOI is lower, as I hit this head higher, but that could just be in my head.  LOL  It is probably all about confidence.  

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7 hours ago, Gman24 said:

I had the face crack on a G400 LST.  I "luvvvvved" that driver.  Ping replaced it with a new G410 LST (great customer service!).  I am still trying to get it dialed in, but it looks promising.  The distance seems comparable or even a little better at times, but I feel like I have to swing more aggressive to get the results that I was getting from my G400 LST.  I feel like the MOI is lower, as I hit this head higher, but that could just be in my head.  LOL  It is probably all about confidence.  

I have only tested both on sims and I have to agree, the G400 just felt easier to bomb vs the G410. No idea why but just the same experience. 

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I went for a club fitting (my irons are 14 years old) yesterday, the Trackman readings showed me losing 20 MPH of ball speed vs. expected ball speed using swing speed, smash factor, etc.  We are going to retest it in a couple weeks and try it against one of the test heads.    I'll report back then.  

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On 5/11/2020 at 11:03 AM, Gman24 said:

I had the face crack on a G400 LST.  I "luvvvvved" that driver.  Ping replaced it with a new G410 LST (great customer service!).  I am still trying to get it dialed in, but it looks promising.  The distance seems comparable or even a little better at times, but I feel like I have to swing more aggressive to get the results that I was getting from my G400 LST.  I feel like the MOI is lower, as I hit this head higher, but that could just be in my head.  LOL  It is probably all about confidence.  

I thought the same thing at first. I believe it is 5 cc bigger and while that might seem strange to be able to tell, I did feel like there was a difference. After 6 months with the G410 LST I actually prefer it to the G400 LST. I'd say at this point the cons are non existent and the pros are slight, which you can expect from a generation newer driver. 

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I have an issue with my club face having a hairline crack on the face of the club, toe side of center.  I play the normal G400 9degree.  Been working with driver a lot lately trying to shot shape, but never thought the face would break.  I played the g10 for almost ten years with no problem.  but decided to replace it so I could get more distance off the tee.  Has anyone else had this problem?

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