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I was thinking of leaving the 5 at standard and then 6 HM  at 1* weak then go 1* strong at 7 forged, then rest of forged standard.   I'll have to see. If both are 1* stronger, that would make a 6 HM 25* and the 7 forged 31* if went stock HM. I'm guessing that 6* gap between stock 6 HM and 1* strong forged would be too large for me since I'm betting the HM will also be longer at equal lofts.

I'm probably going to wait until the clubs are actually in stock at retail to do my fitting and then hopefully they will have a demo set I can hit to see what the actual gap would be and then make a decision from there.  I'm presuming that like everyone else Mizuno only sends out 7 iron heads in the fitting cart so if I wanted to hit a 6 I would have to wait until they got a real set in ?

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If they make the 921 Tours in LH, I will sell my first born for a set. He's had a good two, almost three year run here at the house...he's gently used...mint condition. 

The 919's were SO Good, I just couldn't keep all the goodness to myself, that's the only reason I sold them 😞  Already talked to rep about a 921 order, so I'll be able to compare and share the in

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2 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

I was thinking of leaving the 5 at standard and then 6 HM  at 1* weak then go 1* strong at 7 forged, then rest of forged standard.   I'll have to see. If both are 1* stronger, that would make a 6 HM 25* and the 7 forged 31*.  I'm guessing that 6* gap between stock 6 HM and 1* strong forged would be too large for me since I'm betting the HM will also be longer at equal lofts. 

I'm probably going to wait until the clubs are actually in stock at retail to do my fitting and then hopefully they will have a demo set I can hit to see what the actual gap would be and then make a decision from there.  I'm presuming that like everyone else Mizuno only sends out 7 iron heads in the fitting cart so if I wanted to hit a 6 I would have to wait until they got a real set in ?

Yep seeing and hitting them is always wiser than going on a hunch..ha   I think that is correct on the fitting cart. 

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40 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

What do people think would be the logical break point for a mixed set of hot metal and forged? Probably going to do a 5-GW set.

5-7 HM 8-GW Forged?

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1 hour ago, BrownBearGolf said:

5-7 HM 8-GW Forged?

That's the other possibility I was considering. Probably will all come down to how I hit them. This option might be easier to gap too. Do the 6 & 7 HM 1* weak  and forged at standard. 22-26-30-35-40 for 5-9.

Waiting is always the hardest part. I wish they were just available already so I could go hit them. 

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The new forged are a one piece chromoly forging. Last years 919 forged was not. They are also shorter heel to toe and have less offset. The tours are not changed too much aesthetically, but supposedly they increased the stability and MOI of the tour by 40%. The sole has had some tweaking as well. There is no 3 iron in the tour and it will be a 4-GW set for the first time. 

All are pretty awesome and while it does not look like a big change, I think incremental improvement was the goal with an already outstanding product. 

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19 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

That's the other possibility I was considering. Probably will all come down to how I hit them. This option might be easier to gap too. Do the 6 & 7 HM 1* weak  and 8 Forged 1* strong. 22-26-30-35-40 for 5-9. 

Waiting is always the hardest part. I wish they were just available already so I could go hit them. 

A proper fitting should help

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Man!! Those things are gorgeous!

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I've been thinking about getting a new set of irons and was really considering the JPX 919s since they really cleaned up all the MGS club tests from last year. Now I think I'll wait until this fall to pick up these beauties. Has a set of JPXs maybe 10 years ago and really liked them. Actually sold them to a buddy because he was looking to move from a starter set and it gave me a reason to buy some new clubs. 

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6 hours ago, ChitownM2 said:

What do people think would be the logical break point for a mixed set of hot metal and forged? Probably going to do a 5-GW set.

 

5 hours ago, BrownBearGolf said:

5-7 HM 8-GW Forged?

I would probably split it at the 7i or 8i as well, but with the Forged at the top and Tour at the bottom, and bend the Forged weak to blend nicely. It's hard because you only hit a 7i at a fitting 😞

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16 minutes ago, yungkory said:

 

I would probably split it at the 7i or 8i as well, but with the Forged at the top and Tour at the bottom, and bend the Forged weak to blend nicely. It's hard because you only hit a 7i at a fitting 😞

Yeah that is why I'm planning to wait until they hit the shelves to do a fitting. Hopefully they will have a demo set of each I can hit and use that to make a decision on the gapping once the other parameters are determined.

It will be interesting to see how the forged blend with the tours seeing as the forged are getting stronger while the tours are not. Forged 7i will be 31 while the Tour 8i will be 38. Going to need a lot of bending to fix that gap

 

Mizuno replied to my question on the youtube video from today. Specs for the line-up are coming with the pricing on Monday.  

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9 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

Yeah that is why I'm planning to wait until they hit the shelves to do a fitting. Hopefully they will have a demo set of each I can hit and use that to make a decision on the gapping once the other parameters are determined.

It will be interesting to see how the forged blend with the tours seeing as the forged are getting stronger while the tours are not. Forged 7i will be 31 while the Tour 8i will be 38. Going to need a lot of bending to fix that gap

 

Mizuno replied to my question on the youtube video from today. Specs for the line-up are coming with the pricing on Monday.  

That's quite a gap! Maybe have to do it at the 7i then and just do 5-6 in Forged.

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48 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

Yeah that is why I'm planning to wait until they hit the shelves to do a fitting. Hopefully they will have a demo set of each I can hit and use that to make a decision on the gapping once the other parameters are determined.

It will be interesting to see how the forged blend with the tours seeing as the forged are getting stronger while the tours are not. Forged 7i will be 31 while the Tour 8i will be 38. Going to need a lot of bending to fix that gap

 

Mizuno replied to my question on the youtube video from today. Specs for the line-up are coming with the pricing on Monday.  

Everything is coming Monday.  Now that they have said that, so can we I guess 😎

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Just picked up my Mizuno 919 Tours for an absolute steal, still fully custom fit had some credit with my course pro shop and after a bit of negotiation between the head pro and mizuno sales rep. I didn't feel as upset as I thought I might seeing these....

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Chances are slim to none that I'll get these, only because I got 919 Forged''s in March and there's no way "the boss" would approve a new iron set.  Doesn't mean I'm not interested though; if the 921s are truly more forgiving and generate the same distances (or perhaps even more) I'd be shocked if they don't dominate the next Most Wanted test.

And just a thought on blending HM and Forged....I know it's fun to scheme and plan, but wait until you get fit and then make up your mind.  Personally the Forged 919's are so forgiving I can't see you're gaining much by blending some Hot Metal long irons in.

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I have never had a forged iron.  I am strongly leaning toward getting fit for a set of these.  If my wife allows it of course.  These look so good.  Would be nice to see a top line view of the club.  

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On 8/3/2020 at 10:10 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Everything is coming Monday.  Now that they have said that, so can we I guess 😎

Do you know if "everything" includes this amazing new wedge I've seen people talking about? 

Also, do we think pricing is going to hold at what 919 originally was or should we be saving a little extra in the piggy bank for a price hike?

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In case anyone missed it, Tony Covey's write-up is on the main page...

https://mygolfspy.com/mizuno-jpx921-irons-and-jpx-fli-hi-hybrids/

VERY interesting to read that the 921 Forged will be a degree stronger, and forged from a different metal from the 919.  Now I am REALLY interested in how these fair, and if they retain "Mizuno feel"...

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Those Hot Metals look gorgeous. Well, I mean they ALL do, but those are the only ones I could conceivably game! 

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On 8/7/2020 at 10:06 AM, ChitownM2 said:

Do you know if "everything" includes this amazing new wedge I've seen people talking about? 

 

Here you go!

https://mygolfspy.com/mizuno-es21-wedge-more-than-meets-the-eye/

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3 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Yup, great write-up, will give these a long look too.  

Titleist has talked a big game about manipulating CG in the Vokey lineup year-to-year, but if memory serves they were behind Mizuno (and Ping) on hydrophobic properties.  Getting Vokey's in the spring might not be the automatic purchase it normally is...

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