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2019 Official Forum Member Review- Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 Wedge

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I certainly agree. MUCH better in person. Too bad Bridgestone isn't a popular enough brand to fill up store shelves and course pro-shops.
I agree 100% with you on this, I think of the consumer was able to test these products they would be great sellers. I bought mine solely based on the reviews in this forum, and love it!

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I am actually super stoked to hear how you guys liked these on the course. I too was pleasantly surprised last year. They are an amazing set of wedges. Only thing I wish they offered different soles and bounce. So buttery.

Keep up the outstanding work gentlemen. I’ll be following along attentively.

Last years model was forged by Epon if I remember correctly.

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I am actually super stoked to hear how you guys liked these on the course. I too was pleasantly surprised last year. They are an amazing set of wedges. Only thing I wish they offered different soles and bounce. So buttery.  Keep up the outstanding work gentlemen. I’ll be following along attentively.  

Last years model was forged by Epon if I remember correctly.

 

 

 

 I played 18 today and was the only one on the course. It gave me the opportunity to hit lots of shots from different lies. The jury is still out! They do fly very high and interact with the turf favorably. I didn’t notice an excessive amount of spin. A 30 foot chip typically ran between 8 to 10 feet using a 50 degree, 6 feet with the 54 and 4 feet with the 58. Full shots from 100 to 110 ran out about 4 to 6 feet; no back me ups.  

 

My Callaways are over two years old. I needed new wedges and these will stay in my bag. I just need to dial them in.

 

Caveat.......the 58 degree was useless in my hand. I would have done better using a hotdog

 

 

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I used them for two rounds and some range work over the weekend. While it's still early and there is a lot left to learn (and I don't want to give away too much yet anyway), initial feedback on the feel is great, as expected. I also loved the 60 out of green side bunkers. 

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I used the wedges on a few holes Friday. Unfortunately, I was having one of my worst rounds in quite some time so not much to report. I have also put in a couple range sessions where I was striking it a bit better and they seemed to do well. Trajectory and distance was predictable and the M Grind on the 54 & 58 does exactly what I need it to. Not crazy about the grips (I play Tour Velvets on all my clubs) and I will likely replace them at some point. For now though, I want to test these as though I had just walked into a store and bought them off the rack. With a brand like Bridgestone, it's unlikely that many golfers will purchase this way, but some will and I think it would only be appropriate to evaluate what they'd be buying.

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I spent three hours on the range this morning. About half that time was hitting balls the other half was serving as a pseudo-Ambassador for My Golf Spy. I not only gave them my million dollar pitch I also got about 25 guys to hit the Bridgestone Wedges. Results were underwhelming.

 

The high end bladed appearance intimidated most everyone. There were just a handful that seemed genuinely interested in them as a future purchase. The most common comment, “ they look awesome, feel great, just to hard to hit consistently well”.

 

 

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Sorry guys. I feel like a complete slacker for not posting the past two days. No time for golf this weekend between rain and family obligations, but I did at least get to the range Friday morning to hit the wedges some more. I'm slowly but surely shaking off all the rust that comes with having a long offseason like I did. The wedges were feeling quite nice and I'm really struggling to tell much difference between these and my SM5's in terms of flight - aside from the expected bump in distance due to different lofts. I played around with some different flighted shots as well and really feel quite comfortable with them. Verdict is still out on spin for the moment as I haven't been able to give these a good test on the course or see any launch monitor data. No worries though. I'm subbing in a 9-hole working league tomorrow and then will have these things on Trackman for a little bit Friday morning followed by (hopefully the weather cooperates) 54-holes or more over the weekend. April 6th marks the beginning of Men's League at my home course which will kick off some competitive rounds as well. Looking forward to a great week and weekend. Will have more to report back tomorrow night or Tuesday morning!

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I got another range session in over the weekend, and some short game work. The versatility of the M grind around the green is something I'm starting to appreciate more now that I am getting used to the turf interaction. In particular it is easy to open up the face to pop the ball up in the air, and to hit a shorter toe-down chip, which is one of my favorites when I need to clear some kikuyu rough.

One area I struggled with was closing the face of the 60 compared to my Ping 58, as the Bridgestone had a greater tendency to dig, whereas the Ping with a little more camber retains some bounce even when closed. 

I have a couple of short videos to add too but need to get a youtube account setup first 🙄 . 

In the meantime, does anyone have questions that I can address?

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Well... No golf tonight after all. I don't know which joker is calling the shots, but they've called off play for the second week in a row. Tonight's forecast is 53 and sunny to partly cloudy with 10~mph wind blowing from the south. Last week there was at least a remote chance for rain, but nothing ever happened and it was plenty warm enough to play. Anyway... It's unlikely I'll get to the range or anything, but I might drop a couple balls in the back yard or setup my net in the garage. Good news is Friday is still on and I'm expecting to get in at least 54 holes. I can't wait!

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I let my brother use the wedges yesterday while I worked. He was drooling on them at the range this weekend and I told him that'd be fine as long as he could provide additional feedback for the forum! Another perspective couldn't hurt, right? He is a 10 GHIN and usually plays Vokey SM7, 50F, 54M and 60M, which is the exact same setup as my Bridgestoners. Here are his unfiltered thoughts via text message stream of consciousness post-round:

First Text:

"Good luck getting these wedges back from me. They are so sick."

Okay, ignoring that one since I'll be taking them back for our round Saturday. Could you elaborate?

"They do really well on firm turf and spin the ball great. Full shots felt easy with great feel and feedback. I needed to remember to slow down because they are lighter than the Vokeys (note: Vokey swing weight is D5 on the 54; Bridgestone is D3). The grinds were similar to mine so it was easy to get used to them. The 50 I only hit once, a full swing, pure butter."

Cool, any differences in spin, or other short game observations?

"They spin better than mine. I hit a stock chip (note: his stock chip is to open the face and stance a bit, ball at the back of the stance, weight forward and come down pretty steep on the ball) with the 54 the most of any shot with the wedges and they have this great two bounce and parachute reaction. I caught a couple low on the club face too and they still got up in the air and stopped."

"Overall I would say those wedges saved me 4 strokes today with three chips to gimme range and an awesome full swing 60 that I wouldn't have even tried with mine."

Sounds like overall very strong feedback - any negatives?

"One thing I struggled with was the 60 digging in the sand more than mine. Not sure if it's the difference in weight, or the leading edges, or just user error but it's not something I usually struggle with."

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I'm really curious to know if there's a difference in feel between last year's 1025 forging and this years 1020. I play 1020 forged CB's. They're just butter with gravy on top. There is a definite difference in feel between those and last year's XW-1's. That said, last year's wedges still feel very nice and are extremely versatile clubs given their simplicity.

Any of you able to determine if these will be permanent or do you have other wedges that you like better? So far I'm not even considering anything different and don't foresee them being replaced until I wear the grooves into a spoon.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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I'm really curious to know if there's a difference in feel between last year's 1025 forging and this years 1020. I play 1020 forged CB's. They're just butter with gravy on top. There is a definite difference in feel between those and last year's XW-1's. That said, last year's wedges still feel very nice and are extremely versatile clubs given their simplicity.

Any of you able to determine if these will be permanent or do you have other wedges that you like better? So far I'm not even considering anything different and don't foresee them being replaced until I wear the grooves into a spoon.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..


I see you shanks!

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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I see you shanks!

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..



You caught me. I have been using my old TM wedges to practice in the yard, but I took the X-Wing 1 Rogue 56° to the beach. I don’t think I can ever hit those TM wedges again, hard as concrete.

Can’t wait for the Stage 2’s here.

BStone wedges are highly underrated IMO, be curious to see what the fine fellas reviewing these ones have to say.

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Well, I got my 54 holes in this weekend (though not quite as expected - I'll explain in a bit). While they still have their faults, these Bridgestone wedges are an absolute pleasure to play with!!! My swing finally broke loose of all the off-season rust and I was really able to give the clubs a decent test out on the course - I even pulled my SM5's out of the bag for my club's season opener on Saturday just to test my comfort level with them! There's not a shot I can hit with my SM5's that I can't hit with these. 😁

I started out on Friday morning with a one hour drive to Springfield to see my preferred fitter and have him verify loft and lie were still good on my irons and wedges - I also had him check the Bridgestones to verify the OEM's ability to deliver on specs. Everything checked out okay and in fact - it went so fast that we really didn't need to get me on the launch monitor for anything. 😔 After I was done at the fitter, it was off to Windmill Ridge located in Monett, MO. It's a fun course that I've only played once before and was on the way home. Conditions were very soft after receiving rain a day or two before, but I played well minus a few hiccups and having to take a few penalty strokes for lost balls. I was still struggling a little with my swing so contact was literally hit or miss until I pulled out the 54 on #6. I was playing through a foursome in front of me and had the misfortune of spraying my drive into the trees down the right side of the fairway. After punching out with my 4i, I had just 74 yards left to the hole. This seemed to be about the perfect distance for a flighted 3/4 wedge and it was the best I had clipped any of these wedges up to that point. The ball traveled exactly pin high and hopped left - probably from the punched greens - then I proceeded to drain the ensuing 8-10 footer for par! That shot was monumental in transforming the way I feel about these XW-1 wedges. The contact was just so pure and soft, and the sound was so muted. From then on I hit a lot more quality wedges (and irons) and had myself a good time.

Next up, I decided to go play the municipal course in Neosho, MO - still on the way home. I called ahead just to be sure they weren't closed or busy with an event or something and the girl on the phone told me to come on out. It wasn't until I got there and had given her my payment for the round that she informed me holes 12 thru 16 were all closed because they had just been punched that morning and I soon discovered the remaining holes had a heavy layer of top-dressing that made things nearly unplayable. Soon enough, pace became a real issue - it was cart path only for all holes - and I opted to quit after 9-holes. Upon requesting a rain-check, the girl at the desk said she was handing out several. Clearly, I was not the only person unhappy with course conditions. I went home and relaxed for the rest of the evening.

Saturday, I got up early and drove off to my home course in Carthage, MO for our club's season opening scramble. We started with a free breakfast and rules discussion at a local church before driving to the course for the event. It's a fun tournament as they (somewhat) randomly select the teams based on handicap or known ability. I had never met any of the guys on my team before and I think two of them had only just joined for the first time this year. We had a lot of fun and shot -6 on the front 9 before losing steam and posting a mere -2 on the back. Again, I was able to hit some quality wedge shots - and some quality iron shots as well. We wound up using my approach shot on 6 holes which wasn't bad at all considering I was listed as a "C" player. After the tournament was over and results posted, I hung around and worked with the wedges in the short-game practice area for a bit. I had a buddy of mine who's a scratch golfer (or close to it) come out and take a look at the wedges as well. He pretty much had a very similar opinion of the wedges as I did in my Stage One - just going off of looks. I let him hit a couple shots and he remarked about how soft they felt as well. 

Eventually, I went out and played another 9-holes at my home track to try and ingrain some of what I had worked on in the short game area and continue testing the clubs. Minus a series of flubs on #4 that had me score a +3 for the hole, I struck the ball really well and wound up being +6 for the 9. Considering half of those strokes lost to par came on one hole, I didn't think it was bad at all. While I'd love to say the highlight of the day was one of the many wedge shots I hit - some very good wedges shots among them - I have to give credit where credit is due. On Saturday, that credit belonged to my hybrid which came within 1-1/2"-2" of giving me my very first hole-in-one! I couldn't believe just how close it was - and with 6 of my buddies on the next tee box to witness!

Needless to say, I had a very fun weekend. I have plenty of comments to add about the wedges themselves and how they performed, but consider this my (very long) teaser for what lies ahead. I'll be back on at some point tomorrow to talk a bit more about versatility, sound and feel, distance, spin, and trajectory. 

Goodnight Spies!

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I've got some time this morning so I'll go ahead and share some thoughts on the wedges thus far...

The first time I got the clubs out on the range I was struggling with a toe strike on nearly all my clubs which revealed something rather interesting I think. Unfortunately for Bridgestone, the XW-1 still has a very "clicky" sound when struck towards the toe - though heel strikes are muted and much more in line with what I'd expect to hear and feel. Curiously, the SM5 sounded better when struck on the toe and was really quite consistent across all parts of the face. This surprised me because Vokey wedges are cast carbon steel whereas the Bridgestones are forged. Having been told for years and years that cast clubs should sound and feel noticeably different from their forged counterparts, it seems clear that Titleist has some magic up their sleeve. Regardless, we don't typically play shots from the toe of the club so apart from raising an eyebrow, this distinction between wedges doesn't carry much weight.

When hit well the Bridgestones do have an improved sound over the SM5's - though not markedly so - and feel is better too. Ball flight is very predictable and hits my flight window just fine. Unfortunately, I've not yet placed myself in a good scenario to get a feel for actual distance on full shots. I've basically been operating off known yardages for the Vokeys and made adjustments in my head based on the difference in loft. It's worked well enough so far, but I haven't checked to see how the 50-degree fills the gap between my wedge set and my iron set. In theory, it should work just fine, but that's just a theory and you never know until you test - something I'll have to do very soon.

As for spin, I wasn't quite sure what to expect, but I was at least somewhat worried I'd be ripping the covers off of golf balls and spinning shots off the green based on how the SM5's with worn grooves perform. I'm happy to report that is not the case and these wedges are very playable for me - so far spin seems to be very similar. I'm anxious to get on a launch monitor and verify this, but it seems as though these would be good wedges for someone who has concerns about creating too much spin.

Overall, the XW-1 seems like a pretty good candidate to supersede the SM5's I've been playing for a while. 🙂 

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On 4/6/2019 at 7:53 PM, azstu324 said:

I'm really curious to know if there's a difference in feel between last year's 1025 forging and this years 1020. I play 1020 forged CB's. They're just butter with gravy on top. There is a definite difference in feel between those and last year's XW-1's. That said, last year's wedges still feel very nice and are extremely versatile clubs given their simplicity.

Any of you able to determine if these will be permanent or do you have other wedges that you like better? So far I'm not even considering anything different and don't foresee them being replaced until I wear the grooves into a spoon.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

I can't speak to the prior year's 1025s, but I play 1025 forged irons so can give some thoughts here. Feel is pretty similar between the two, except on thin/toe hits. As @TR1PTIK mentioned there is a little clicky feel on thinned/toed shots with the XW-1, while my Cobra King Forged CBs still feel muted/softer even when I thin it. Not sure if that is a 1020 vs 1025 difference, or a Cobra vs. Bridgestone difference though...

Personally I still think the feel blows my old Vokey SM5 or current Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth wedges out of the water though, even on strikes that are not perfect.

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great job guys on the on going commnentary.  Exactly what we are looking for in reviews this year!!  

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I played over the weekend at Torrey Pines North Course. The greens were just installed a couple of years ago and are both fast and rock hard. The rough plays much shorter than when the tour stops here, but with our recent wet (relatively) winter it is still very thick for at least another month or two - the combination really puts your wedge game to the test. Overall I am still largely positive on these wedges, with a couple of lingering question marks that I need to figure out in the coming weeks before making a final decision.

First of all, this 54 wedge just gets me! When I have a full shot distance with this club it is point-and-shoot (albeit a few yards higher & longer than my Ping which I found out the hard way when I went after a back pin 🙄). It's also a great versatile grind for me around the greens, which was helpful because with the super thick rough I wasn't comfortable hitting the 60 for those chips just yet. Two open faced and one toe-down chip were all executed successfully, minus one missed 4-foot par save... It would be weird to keep just the 54 and trade the other two at the end of this, but I'm not opposed if that's what my results prescribe.

I like the 50 too - the grind is great for full swings and is better for bump-n-runs than the M-grind on the 54 & 60, provided you have some room. This flies 3-5 yards longer than my Cobra King Forged CB GW - it also flies a bit higher, likely due to the Modus 105 stiff shafts rather than my set's KBS $-taper 130g shafts. For the most part I am fine with that, but YMMV. For what it's worth, the custom options on the Bridgestone website allow for several no-upcharge shafts. If I were buying them now I would probably go with something heavier & lower launching than the 105s.

I'm hot and cold on the 60. Still need to figure out my distances. Again, these are going longer than expected and a bit higher than I would ideally like (missed another green long with a full 60 in hand). In addition to the previous comments about digging in sand & soft turf, shorter bunker shots have been a challenge for me as I think I'm still getting used to the weighting.

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As a recent retiree with lots of time coupled with beautiful SC weather, I’ve had lots of time to put these wedges through their paces. The bottom line up front is I like the Callaway Mack Daddy Wedges much better than the Bridgestone.

 

Good Stuff- they are long and high providing me with a very step approach into the greens. I’ve gained about 10 yards on my current gamers.

 

The Bad - Bridgestone must have an endorsement contract with Shankapotamus. Lots of miss hits I’m not use too.

 

 

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Hoping I'll be able to make it to the golf course on Friday, but this whole "bomb cyclone" thing that The Weather Channel's been talking about may derail my plans. Looks like a lot of rain ahead for next week too. 😞  I'm hoping that rain won't carry into next Friday because I'm signed up for another scramble to benefit a local charity...

In other news, I may be heading up to Kansas City in about a month to hang out with a buddy up there and go play some much better courses. Not 100% sure how it will work out, but so far we've talked about Shoal Creek and Dub's Dread. I played Shoal Creek a few summers ago on a buddies trip I planned and got my butt handed to me so I'm eager to see if I can manage something better this go around. I've never played Dub's Dread, but I've heard from a number of people that it can be a real challenge so we'll see how it goes.

Beyond that, I should be taking my family down to Gonzales, LA at the end of May for our annual trip to see relatives and old family and friends. The past couple of years, I've taken my clubs with me and played Santa Maria. It's a fun course to play and conditions are typically good even though our timing usually coincides with their aeration schedule.

Between all of my weekend rounds, I'm sure I'll make several trips to the range and I'll ask the head pro about Flighscope again. I really want to get some hard data on these wedges, but so far it's proving to be a touch more difficult than I originally thought. I'll check in again this weekend sometime if I'm not completely distracted by The Masters. 🙂 

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