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24 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

Wow that’s fantastic that the joint pain was eliminated with the switch.  One of these days I’ll have to give MMT’s a shot in the irons.  I tend to like heavyish shafts, but see no reason to exclude graphite if the weight is there to keep my swing in sync.  Knowing that we’ve preferred similar shafts in the past means I’ll hopefully check out the TX flex as well.  

MMTs do seem to have that space pretty well filled out with the TX at 113 and 125, and the then 125 Stiff coming in at 124

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@edingc I am expecting my 699 Pro's also from the Preowned section of Sub70 on Monday! I believe our lofts are the same so wondering what the bottom end of your bag looks like? I believe the AW is 50*. I currently game the Kirkland wedge set which is 52,56,60...would 6* of loft separation be too much to go from 50* to 56*?

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Woods : :benhogan-small: GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular

Hybrids: :callaway-small: XR Project X Stiff (3&4)

Irons : sub70logo.png.3c207e4e90c1eeca7b9a917b5fa4b848.png 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts 

Wedges : File:Kirkland Signature logo.svg - Wikimedia Commons 52, 56, 60 

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6 hours ago, golfish! said:

@edingc I am expecting my 699 Pro's also from the Preowned section of Sub70 on Monday! I believe our lofts are the same so wondering what the bottom end of your bag looks like? I believe the AW is 50*. I currently game the Kirkland wedge set which is 52,56,60...would 6* of loft separation be too much to go from 50* to 56*?

The AW is 50. I go 54, 58. My brother-in-law goes 50-56-60 and does well with it.

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Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Epic Max LS (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review
17° Hybrid:
callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX
18.5° Driving Iron: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX
21° Hybrid:
callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX
4-AW:  
Sub70_Logo_WhtBlk.jpg.aee386374adf9afd31a02b989c839f9d.jpg Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread
54°, 58°:
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
lamkin.png.5081890e009ae78e16066ee0fd18b7c0.png Lamkin Sonar Tour
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: :Arccos: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: :CaddyTek: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review

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Hey Cody, not sure if you've commented on this or not yet.  I know you're getting along well with the 699's.  Didn't know if you've commented about the differences you feel between a player's cavity like that versus your experience with the Speedzone irons last year?

I have to think that the lofts weren't too far apart, maybe a bit in the longer irons, but they are obviously very different in construction.  For me the player's cavity design has been eye-opening.  They're definitely more forgiving then they let on from how they look in the bag.

 

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20 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

Hey Cody, not sure if you've commented on this or not yet.  I know you're getting along well with the 699's.  Didn't know if you've commented about the differences you feel between a player's cavity like that versus your experience with the Speedzone irons last year?

I have to think that the lofts weren't too far apart, maybe a bit in the longer irons, but they are obviously very different in construction.  For me the player's cavity design has been eye-opening.  They're definitely more forgiving then they let on from how they look in the bag.

 

Yes, I'm getting along much better with the Sub70s than I did with the SpeedZones. I didn't hate the looks of the SpeedZones, but the smaller profile of the 699s (even the non-"Pro" long irons) is much more pleasing to look at behind the ball. And whatever they fill the heads with makes them feel and sound really nice as well.

Direct comparisons are always so tough because as I've improved with practice/lessons things like carry distance have come up a bit. I carry my 699 Pro 9 iron about the same exact distance as the SpeedZone 9 iron, but there's 3 degrees of difference between the two clubs. 

I think anyone shooting under 100 with regularity could play something like the 699s and not give up a ton of forgiveness to the more SGI-type clubs. There's a lot of tech packed into the heads to help out. They really are a nice blend looks/forgiveness/feel.

Certainly, SGI clubs have their place. I can imagine if you are very steep or maybe a slower swinger the larger sole and lower CG of something like the SpeedZones may be more beneficial.

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Driver: callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Epic Max LS (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review
17° Hybrid:
callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX
18.5° Driving Iron: 
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX
21° Hybrid:
callaway_logo.png.3dd18aa65544000dd0ea3901697a8261.png Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX
4-AW:  
Sub70_Logo_WhtBlk.jpg.aee386374adf9afd31a02b989c839f9d.jpg Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread
54°, 58°:
cobra_logo.png.190908c8b4518eec87c087429e4343ee.png Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review
Putter:
image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review
Grips: 
lamkin.png.5081890e009ae78e16066ee0fd18b7c0.png Lamkin Sonar Tour
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

Tracked By: :Arccos: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review
Bag: :1590477705_SunMountain: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync
Riding On: :CaddyTek: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review

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4 hours ago, edingc said:

Yes, I'm getting along much better with the Sub70s than I did with the SpeedZones. I didn't hate the looks of the SpeedZones, but the smaller profile of the 699s (even the non-"Pro" long irons) is much more pleasing to look at behind the ball. And whatever they fill the heads with makes them feel and sound really nice as well.

Direct comparisons are always so tough because as I've improved with practice/lessons things like carry distance have come up a bit. I carry my 699 Pro 9 iron about the same exact distance as the SpeedZone 9 iron, but there's 3 degrees of difference between the two clubs. 

I think anyone shooting under 100 with regularity could play something like the 699s and not give up a ton of forgiveness to the more SGI-type clubs. There's a lot of tech packed into the heads to help out. They really are a nice blend looks/forgiveness/feel.

Certainly, SGI clubs have their place. I can imagine if you are very steep or maybe a slower swinger the larger sole and lower CG of something like the SpeedZones may be more beneficial.

Agree with you there @edingc. I shoot under 100 regularly and wanted to get into something with a little less offset and a thinner topline with some workability than my Mavriks. Callaway website says the Mavriks are built for players down to an 8 HDCP so technically I should still be playing those but we all know how golf swings change and the way you look at your clubs at address change. I liked the thinner topline of the 699 pros compared to my Mavriks. Mavrik on the left, 699 pro in the middle and the 639MB on the right ( I thought I could hit a blade and found out I could not xP) Also the sole is a bit thinner too. The offset on the 699 pros is about half of the Mavriks. My swing has developed to where I am hitting draws and my common miss is a hook or too much draw so I wanted the lower offset. Also like you mentioned, during my demo testing at the range on Mevo, I was really not losing distance even though the lofts are weaker on the 699 pros. Now this was with the stock KBS tour 105 stiff shaft which I felt forced me to take a much faster tempo backswing than I do with my True Temper Elevate 95 in stiff. I did manage to find a set of 4-AW of the 699 Pros with the black finish and KBS Tour 90 in stiff in their pre-owned section so I jumped on it along with the 10% Memorial Day discount on pre-owned. Jason recommended the Tour 90 as it would be closest to my Elevate 95. All in with the free shipping and no tax it came out to $540. Quite a deal for 8 clubs! Sorry to jack your thread a bit here but sharing my experience for anyone looking at the Sub70's. Plus like everyone says, Jason Hiland, the owner of the company really does answer all your questions and is personally available to all of his customers.  

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Woods : :benhogan-small: GS53 3 Wood 14* Mitsubish Tensei Blue 73g Regular

Hybrids: :callaway-small: XR Project X Stiff (3&4)

Irons : sub70logo.png.3c207e4e90c1eeca7b9a917b5fa4b848.png 699 Pro Black 5-AW 1* flat KBS Tour V 90 Stiff Shafts 

Wedges : File:Kirkland Signature logo.svg - Wikimedia Commons 52, 56, 60 

Putter : :taylormade-small:Spider Red

Bag : datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg lightweight cart bag | motocaddy.jpg.258c0b46e60c2804fc6b1f64bca0aef3.jpgDry Series Bag

Ball :  :taylormade-small: TP5 PIX (2019) | Screen-Shot-2017-07-20-at-7_24.05-AM-300x118.png.9f1c4cb1d62511ee40a05bd6d5795f97.png ProV1x (2021)

Rangefinder : 836d5c8b9e44880db86abcd3b735255d.w2480_h836.jpg.bcd4050c642957abbdca7453a6cb0469.jpg ULT-X

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