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42 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

I think it is all dependent on AOA. I see guys teeing up the ball so low it resembles my tee for a short iron. The have an entirely different swing then I do (high AOA) At least one of the guy's in our group who tees it up low has almost a  lateral back swing. . 

I know. I have a friend that tees his driver like that. Other than actually hitting down on the ball like an iron, I don't see how you could ever hit the center of the face. His drives take off and balloon way up and then fall out the sky. 

 

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I’ve been toying around with this since moving to the one plane thing. Depending on what type of shot I want to play is how high, and orientation in then stance. I have put it way up off my left toe

Broken tees are the ONLY tee I will use on a par three.

The theoretical optimum tee height is half the ball above the topline of the driver.  I have also see advice to tee it higher to hook  and lower to fade.   The goal is to be consistent in height to st

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Towards the end of my round today, I was already wore down and having a bad day with my driver.  I decided to try a 2 3/4" tee for a tee shot.  I placed it to where it was barely in the ground and ended up hitting a drive that was straight as could be.  Problem was, it was a bad hole to straight and I had to watch my ball play pinball in the trees.  I tested the results by teeing up a second ball the same way and got another straight ball flight.  Different result as the ball hit a little more to the right on the first tree and went for a swim in the river.  I think I may be a shorter tee convert.

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Towards the end of my round today, I was already wore down and having a bad day with my driver.  I decided to try a 2 3/4" tee for a tee shot.  I placed it to where it was barely in the ground and ended up hitting a drive that was straight as could be.  Problem was, it was a bad hole to straight and I had to watch my ball play pinball in the trees.  I tested the results by teeing up a second ball the same way and got another straight ball flight.  Different result as the ball hit a little more to the right on the first tree and went for a swim in the river.  I think I may be a shorter tee convert.

Interesting to see how tee height affects driver performance. An approach I used on the range with impact tape was to see the result ( impact position) by raising/lowering tee height


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X2. One of the drills I do to try and place my clubs at "perfect" location. A reminder I need to do that again soon....


Interesting to see how tee height affects driver performance. An approach I used on the range with impact tape was to see the result ( impact position) by raising/lowering tee height


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Interesting to see how tee height affects driver performance. An approach I used on the range with impact tape was to see the result ( impact position) by raising/lowering tee height


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I need to wipe my driver off. One of the benefits of the Cobra face is visible ball marks on every shot.  I plan on going to the range Friday morning and that would be a good time for a test.  I also wish I had a clue where the tees went.  I've noticed Western Birch tees are really sturdy and I wanted to see what a driver impact would do.  I have yet to snap one.  Hybrids and irons have produced minor damage at worst.

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I've noticed Western Birch tees are really sturdy and I wanted to see what a driver impact would do.  I have yet to snap one.


Western birch vs. Other wood tees....

Ok Bryson....

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On 5/12/2020 at 1:32 PM, silver & black said:

I know. I have a friend that tees his driver like that. Other than actually hitting down on the ball like an iron, I don't see how you could ever hit the center of the face. His drives take off and balloon way up and then fall out the sky. 

 

Sounds like he’s hitting down on it.

i have a friend that played his low because of a preferred ball flight but he wasn’t really hitting down on his and he hit it pretty far with a little draw

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I've noticed Western Birch tees are really sturdy and I wanted to see what a driver impact would do.  I have yet to snap one.


Western birch vs. Other wood tees....

Ok Bryson....emoji12.png

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Regular tees from Walmart break no matter what club I use.  Just saying that if I haven't broken one with an iron, a driver might not break one.  Or it might if I ever get my driver swing back under control.  And I do feel like Bryson when a ball goes 250 instead of 200 lol.

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15 minutes ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

I snap all my tees all the time. I buy them by the pound. Neon Pink for my baby girl.

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I broke a plastic tee today.  First plastic tee I've broken since last winter when the ground was nearly frozen.

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I broke a plastic tee today.  First plastic tee I've broken since last winter when the ground was nearly frozen.
Everything here gets so dry after July 4, everything snaps because of the firm ground

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1 hour ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

Everything here gets so dry after July 4, everything snaps because of the firm ground

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Our ground is firm all year long.  110º all last week; 90's this week.  We only get 7 inches of rain a year.

The course I played today is not my normal course.  Most tee boxes were weeds, so not a nice grass root system.  Dried dirt.  I don't like playing there, but the guys that asked me to play are great guys and it's free with a cart.

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Our ground is firm all year long.  110º all last week; 90's this week.  We only get 7 inches of rain a year.
The course I played today is not my normal course.  Most tee boxes were weeds, so not a nice grass root system.  Dried dirt.  I don't like playing there, but the guys that asked me to play are great guys and it's free with a cart.
Free sounds good. I like hot but whew that could be a lot for me

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I use to break wood tees all the time, most times after one drive. Switched to plastic a couple of years ago. Don't break any now but occasionally lose them.


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I set about a third of the ball above the crown.  I used to do half but every once it a while I'd come in steep on the approach and sky one.  I use whatever tee will get that setup for me.  For irons I use a short white tee so I actually carry two different tees heights.  

 

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I use the 2 3/4 inch step tees.  They get me a consistent height every time.  One less variable as I’m trying to improve my game.  
 

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Well, @tony@CIC, I am officially a shorter tee convert with my driver.  I dont have specific numbers, but I hit some darn good shots.  Thank you again for sharing the information you did earlier in the year.  Hopefully this will lead to a lot more drives in the fairway.

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I try to tee it the height that puts the ball in the middle of the club face (vertically) the most often. Basically fitting tee height to your particular swing.

I found I was hitting it a bit low on the club face, so I got longer tees. Cheapest equipment change ever that actually worked! 

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When I started I used the blue 4 more yards tee. This was because it has a section where the plastic has a ring around it and that gave me a consistent height every time. Now with a regular tee,  I tee it up where the half the ball is above the top line of the driver. The line that the balls use for putting can be used as a measuring line as that is the half mark on the ball. 

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Whenever I am not focused and tee the ball higher than my norm, I end up skying it. Usually down the middle of the fairway, but only like 180 yards.

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