SuperSpeed Golf - 2023 Forum Review

[Sluggo42]

1 hour ago, fixyurdivot said:

As you continue along the journey, I would like to know if any of your games improve as a result of the added distance.  

Tho its only been 5 weeks, I can tell you that I doubt I'll shave much as a 4, because distance doesnt fix stupid. And most of my strokes are lost in weird, and usually foolish ways like chunked chips , poor putts and the like.

But with that, I can tell you that its a lot easier to hit a green from 110, rather than 130+, and its also easier hitting a green with an 8 iron than it is with a 7 iron from the same distance. It stops quicker. etc...

Blending the speed swing into real golf this week has resulted in two 74's, and an ugly 79 today that saw a plus 8 front. Haven't hit them all perfectly either, but theres been some sweet peaches in the mix...

I also think it would be beneficial to people who can't play often because you'd still get a lot of swings in, even if in the garage, or back yard...

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

25 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

Tho its only been 5 weeks, I can tell you that I doubt I'll shave much as a 4, because distance doesnt fix stupid. And most of my strokes are lost in weird, and usually foolish ways like chunked chips , poor putts and the like.

 

Here here!!

[fozcycle]

Week Five is in the books…..Looking back, I feel like I have been regressing, but I have gained 5 mph on my Final swings…

Week Five:

7 iron: 70

Driver: 78

Dominant - Yellow - 83/90/87 Green - 83/81/83 Blue - 81/80/79

Non-Dominant - Yellow - 70/60/74 Green - 63/63/63 Blue - 62/58/58

Step Dominant - Yellow - 77/84/81 Green - 80/79/79 Blue - 61/58/67

Step Non-Dominant - Yellow - 61/65/63 Green - 66/56/57 Blue - 61/58/67

Final Yellow - 88/88/87

Will be moving on to Level Two adding the Heel Stomp to the regimen.

[MsWalkrOfSky]

Hello all! I've had a hell of a time recently. As I said before, I was delayed in starting due to a knee injury, which is still mildly tweaked, but hopefully well enough. I’ve sadly missed two of my sessions in the first two weeks . One was due to being sick, the other was due to two flat tires and the car that contained the clubs being towed without me remembering they were in there and I had to still workout that day (it was quite a stressful day).

My partner @Neph and I attended the Senior LPGA Championship over this past weekend! It was an absolute blast and will probably get its own post somewhere else when I have the time.

Sunday after the tournament, we were supposed to go play Sultan’s Run, but we ran in to the two flat tires issue when we left to head for the course. One we could have dealt with, but two on a Sunday in a small Midwest town? We were stuck for another day and missed our tee time. Luckily, we got to play the next day. Sultan’s run was an absolutely fantastic course that was insanely brutal.

As far as my numbers are concerned, I’ve discovered in week two that swinging without my spikes is now incredibly difficult. It’s amazing how in half of a season I cannot imagine playing without them now. My non-dominant hand swings have been rapidly improving; it’s mostly just getting technique down to me. Non-dominant swings have really helped me with consistently getting my grip on my actual normal golf swings; having to sort out exactly how to do it in an opposite manner really solidified the principles for me.

I also missed a swing or two in recording; it wasn’t until the end of my latest session that I realized that the tracker saves the swings of the session, so I can go through and record them at the end . I feel quite dumb.

 

Here are my numbers so far!

 

 

Slowly growing, I think it'll be better when I'm more consistent!

[Sluggo42]

On 7/6/2023 at 6:53 AM, MsWalkrOfSky said:

Slowly growing, I think it'll be better when I'm more consistent!

(Normal 106.33 108.00 )

Do you realize that your driver speed is 12 mph faster than the average lpga pro, and only 7 mph shy of the men’s pga average speeds? That’s crazy!

that is phenomenal!! And you are barely starting the program! I was pumped at a Callaway day yesterday when I was barely cracking 100 mph…

if you only see 5%, you’ll be over 110 mph. I would kill for that much speed…

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Curious how your games are translating? @chisag, @RichL85 and myself all noted how speed training really messed with our techniques, despite the gains in speed. Main question, are your swings holding up or have you developed any new flaws?

[Sluggo42]

I started level 2 today, and found the heel stomp thing quite interesting… especially left handed. The stepping swing was easy I thought, but this heel thing is weird. However, it’s fast. Not so much goofyfooted, but dominant hand is good. 
still can’t crack that 114 mph. I seem to be stuck, but still working as hard as I can with hopes for a breakthrough soon.

[Sluggo42]

5 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Curious how your games are translating? @chisag, @RichL85 and myself all noted how speed training really messed with our techniques, despite the gains in speed. Main question, are your swings holding up or have you developed any new flaws?

I’m trying to stick with same swing for irons after yesterdays fiasco with irons swing. I tried the John Daly swing with them and it wasn’t good. But, I have found that my normal swing has picked up 10-15 yards with irons. Todays round was pretty solid at 5 over, including a stupid double on 9 after coming up a yard short of clearing the ditch, duherrrrr…

driver has been longer, which is giving me shorter approach shots, which is also at least  a club less into the equation. So basically for instance, on a hole that I hit a good drive on, I’m hitting an 8 or 9 iron in, instead of a six or seven iron. 
so obviously that’s a plus. I’m learning quickly to leave the swing speed “swing” in the garage, and am finding the good old regular swing is longer, without really trying.

i saw the flaws quickly, and instantly bailed on the speed “swing”, on irons for sure. The driver however seems to like the bigger swing, and I’m hitting that pretty well. Now also keep in mind, we have barely started week six, and I have plenty of time to get all messed up.

i guess my question back to you is; did you return to your “old swing” without the flaws? And if and when, did you find it to still be faster than it was.?

cheers

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

6 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said:

 

i guess my question back to you is; did you return to your “old swing” without the flaws? And if and when, did you find it to still be faster than it was.?

cheers

i have to work back to my old swing. After my lesson check-in I realized it reverted back to my pre lessons swing, which was usable as I was trying to do a lot of skill work with it. So when I can get it to return is TBD. It was in a much better place at the end of last year and the only thing I did between then and now was play, gym work, lots of overspeed. Lessons were secondary as the cost went up unfortunately. I presume I will be faster once I get it back. 15% swings with my 7i i was nearly hitting the ball 140. my stock 7i with my rough swing was 170 so I should easily be back there, if not farther.

[fozcycle]

Here are the stats for Week 6, with the first week adding an extra regime, the Heel Stomp.

Week Six:

7 iron: 70

Driver: 78

Dominant - Yellow - 85/81/78 Green - 83/77/78 Blue - 77/77/75

Non-Dominant- Yellow - 63/62/61 Green - 62/55/59 Blue - 59/57/60

Step Dominant - Yellow - 84/80/77 Green - 80/78/76 Blue - 74/79/76

Step Non-Dominant - Yellow - 64/69/59 Green - 57/63/59 Blue - 54/63/58

Heel Dominant - Yellow - 76/77/80 Green - 70/75/79 Blue - 79/79/78

Heel Non-Dominant- Yellow - 53/68/58 Green - 48/57/54 Blue - 48/59/57

Final Yellow - 85/85/88

[BobBC78]

22 hours ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Curious how your games are translating? @chisag, @RichL85 and myself all noted how speed training really messed with our techniques, despite the gains in speed. Main question, are your swings holding up or have you developed any new flaws?

Mine seems to be holding up reasonably well (I've picked up 4-5 yards of driver distance) probably because I try really hard not to swing "all out" on the course but feel like I am at about 90%.  I have learned from swinging "all out" on the range that my smash factor drops significantly (I am more likely to strike all over the face) so I don't end up hitting the ball any further anyway. 

Edited July 8, 2023 by BobBC78

[BobBC78]

Did session 2 of the first week of Level 2 today. Another hot, humid day and I was pretty gassed by the end of the session. Like @Sluggo42, I'm finding the heal stomp swing a challenge, particularly left handed. Next session is Monday, after which I'll include some stats. 

[Berg Ryman]

So due to a busy than expected weekend I will be starting in on level 2 on Monday evening. Played today though and hit se absolute Bomba. Had a 300 yard par 3, hit 3 wood and had 50 in. 375 yard uphill par 4, 98 in. 

So to answer the question as to the level of play if I'm playing better, I'll say this. I think the training raises my scoring floor, even if it doesn't move my scoring ceiling higher. The thing with the distance is that it takes bad swings and at least moves them in a direction further down, instead of a slower swing and bad contact which leads to just short and crooked.

Like for example, that day I scored the 42 with all the 3 putts, I'm still hitting greens, I'm still in with a shot because I'm further down. If I putted well I ball struck my way that to a 37 or 36, instead of maybe ball striking to a 41 with the same amount of putts leading to a score like 46.

I hope that idea makes sense

[MsWalkrOfSky]

On 7/7/2023 at 5:12 PM, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Curious how your games are translating? @chisag, @RichL85 and myself all noted how speed training really messed with our techniques, despite the gains in speed. Main question, are your swings holding up or have you developed any new flaws?

I've definitely seen some weird things pop up with my swing when I do a training session and don't have a range session before playing. It takes like half a round for my swing to settle back in, if it does at all.

[MsWalkrOfSky]

On 7/7/2023 at 5:09 PM, Sluggo42 said:

Do you realize that your driver speed is 12 mph faster than the average lpga pro, and only 7 mph shy of the men’s pga average speeds? That’s crazy!

that is phenomenal!! And you are barely starting the program! I was pumped at a Callaway day yesterday when I was barely cracking 100 mph…

if you only see 5%, you’ll be over 110 mph. I would kill for that much speed…

I do! I'm really happy with my speed. I saw improvement from technique and actually being able to see my speed alone; my swing measured about 100 with a max of like 104 before I received the equipment; after taking a break due to my knee injury, I had that initial killer day I mentioned in my main post. Haven't cracked that high consistently since of course, but I know it's just a matter of time and training

I really need to develop control more than power; my coach is constantly trying to get me to slow my swing down a bit for more control lol.

[SteveGH7]

Completed week 5 today. While some of the dominant hand swing speeds with the sticks have been fairly consistent the last week or so, I've seen gradual increases in the non-dominant and the pre & post.  The first session in week 1 saw a pre and post of 84 and 95, and the last session of week 5 saw 100 and 105.  I haven't recorded my speed hitting an actual ball since the pre-training baseline, so I am excited to see what the current speed is.  I'll hopefully be going Tuesday to track that.

Out on the course, I haven't noticed big increases in my driver, but I was also swinging pretty poorly my last time out.  However, I did notice my irons going quite a bit further.

[BobBC78]

On 7/8/2023 at 3:25 PM, BobBC78 said:

Mine seems to be holding up reasonably well (I've picked up 4-5 yards of driver distance) probably because I try really hard not to swing "all out" on the course but feel like I am at about 90%.  I have learned from swinging "all out" on the range that my smash factor drops significantly (I am more likely to strike all over the face) so I don't end up hitting the ball any further anyway. 

I decided to check my statement above by comparing Shot Scope data (for driver) from before I started Super Speed training with results from the day I started training to the present and found the results to be interesting and somewhat surprising. The good news is that my PAvg distance has increased 3-yards to 194 and maximum distance increased by 5-yards to 220. Although my FIR has dropped 2% to 44%, average distance of fairway miss has also dropped to 9-yards, from 10-yards.  Prior to beginning Super Speed training my left/right misses were 17% and 30% respectively, whereas results from after starting Super Speed training flipped with left/right misses of 38% and 16% respectively. Apparently, I am hooking the ball quite a bit more frequently now. 

The not so good news is that strokes gained per shot (versus my current index of around 20) has dropped from 0.01 prior to beginning training to -0.03 now, a negative swing of 0.04/shot with the driver. Although my driver distance is clearly increasing, I'm now losing strokes per drive rather than gaining them. Although the number is not big, it strikes me that I need to focus more on form during a training session than I have been to date and add back strike focused drills to my non-speed practice sessions. 

As others have noted, I am hitting all of my other clubs correspondingly longer since I have been doing speed training. 

[Sluggo42]

session 2 level two , everything way faster. I think that last fridays was just a bad biorhythm day, and I was just weak overall. Today I felt strong, and got a 102 pre, and a 105 post session. And then I cracked a 115 on the post green speed. That was a goal, and now a 120 is the goal.

Real golf today was a basket case, but saved a 78 with 3 birdies on the back. Drives were long, but I was blocking everything to the right side.

I am noticing that my sides are sore after every session for a day or two. those muscles are getting worked... I like it

[gavinski91]

Back and starting week 4 after 2 1/2 weeks off due to a neck sprain. The good news is I don’t seem to have lost any speed in the meantime - stick speeds were all up slightly since my last pre-injury session, and driver speeds holding steady. 
 

One thing that did click for me this session was a sequencing detail related to weight shifts. When I’m doing my max speed reps with the light stick at the end of a session, I incorporate some pendulum movements back and forth a few times with the stick before ripping into my backswing. In the past I’ve always shifted my weight with the stick - weight forward when the stick is forward, weight back when the stick is back. This time I reversed that - put weight on my back foot when the stick was forward, and weight on my front foot when the stick was back. The idea was to maximize the load on my front foot right before I got to the top of my backswing so that I could generate more vertical ground forces into the swing. It seems to work - I matched my PR for fastest swing speed with the light stick (124) even though it didn’t feel like a perfect swing. 
 

I think being able to unlock more power from my legs - which are disproportionately strong compared to the rest of my body due to the type of workouts I gravitate towards - will be a key component of generating more speed. I’m also considering incorporating some other workout regimes into my training (for example, I used to do 100 burpees every day and might go back to doing that to build core strength). 

[tommyb1683]

Heading out to play a regular round this morning at my home course. This is usually where I judge my progress or club selection since I know the course really well. I just finished week 5 I will have all my numbers up later on when I can get on the computer. 

[Berg Ryman]

It's that time, to reveal set 1 from Week 6! It seems hard to believe we're almost halfway done with the testing now, but it's time to dig into Level 2! As an aside, this comes with a new warm-up program, so I hope everyone is ready to see a new video of me struggling through it when I have time to record. However, you're all here for numbers, so let's dig in.

PRE D  98, 96, 95, 96, 97

YR: 106, 108, 110 YL: 90, 89, 87 

GR: 104, 105, 105 GL: 89, 83, 87

BR: 102, 103, 101 BL: 80, 85, 84

YRS: 107, 109, 109 YLS: 85, 90, 89

GRS: 104, 103, 104 GLS: 81, 85, 85 

BRS: 101, 100, 100 BLS: 87, 83, 82

YRH: 100, 105, 105 YLH: 72, 77, 78

GRH: 97, 95, 96 GLH: 79, 72, 72

BRH: 91, 91, 89 BLH: 69, 72, 69

M: 111, 113, 110

POST D  99, 100, 99, 100, 99

 

Yeah, there's some stuff in this data set that's interesting. First off, first over 90 MPH on the left side! A very good result here and new hope that before we finish this training, we'll eventually hit 100 on the left side. Also, all three max outs over 110 is nice. The biggest positive here though is the progressions of the step swings in now tracking closer to standard swings. It's taken 16 sessions, but it feels like I'm finally figuring that movement out now.

Ok, let's talk about the heel stomp. If you ever want to reveal issues with your swing, take it from me and add moving parts to it! What used to be something I did when I was younger naturally has now become a move which throws off all of my balance. It very quickly became an issue of my center of gravity moving forward and up with the movement, and a nasty sway coming into the swing instead of a natural turn. As such, swings were very very very unnatural and speeds were down quite a bit, especially on the left side. I assume this will take some time to get used to so any help from other testers or even the ever-present @DrTstandy as to how to focus on and think about those swings would be nice.

The other issue I'm having in the feels for that swing comes down to a physical issue. My ankles suck, just straight up. They sometimes roll quite easily, especially my right ankle, which has a click when I walk on it. So the idea of the heel lift and stomp has got me a little skittish as is. Again, hopefully due to the stretching program for level 2 I can avoid some of that was we go, but it will be a factor to watch going forward. Also as an aside here, the fatigue issue that I was concerned about with the swing increase to 57 swings in the training and the pre and post drivers adding 10 more for a total of 67 swings didn't show up on Monday night. It was also a nice calm 74 degrees with relatively low humidity as well... so take that for what it's worth

So yeah, back on a M/W/F schedule, ready to dig further into speed for level 2. Always fun and ready to go!

[DrTstandy]

30 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said:

It's that time, to reveal set 1 from Week 6! It seems hard to believe we're almost halfway done with the testing now, but it's time to dig into Level 2! As an aside, this comes with a new warm-up program, so I hope everyone is ready to see a new video of me struggling through it when I have time to record. However, you're all here for numbers, so let's dig in.

PRE D  98, 96, 95, 96, 97

YR: 106, 108, 110 YL: 90, 89, 87 

GR: 104, 105, 105 GL: 89, 83, 87

BR: 102, 103, 101 BL: 80, 85, 84

YRS: 107, 109, 109 YLS: 85, 90, 89

GRS: 104, 103, 104 GLS: 81, 85, 85 

BRS: 101, 100, 100 BLS: 87, 83, 82

YRH: 100, 105, 105 YLH: 72, 77, 78

GRH: 97, 95, 96 GLH: 79, 72, 72

BRH: 91, 91, 89 BLH: 69, 72, 69

M: 111, 113, 110

POST D  99, 100, 99, 100, 99

 

Yeah, there's some stuff in this data set that's interesting. First off, first over 90 MPH on the left side! A very good result here and new hope that before we finish this training, we'll eventually hit 100 on the left side. Also, all three max outs over 110 is nice. The biggest positive here though is the progressions of the step swings in now tracking closer to standard swings. It's taken 16 sessions, but it feels like I'm finally figuring that movement out now.

Ok, let's talk about the heel stomp. If you ever want to reveal issues with your swing, take it from me and add moving parts to it! What used to be something I did when I was younger naturally has now become a move which throws off all of my balance. It very quickly became an issue of my center of gravity moving forward and up with the movement, and a nasty sway coming into the swing instead of a natural turn. As such, swings were very very very unnatural and speeds were down quite a bit, especially on the left side. I assume this will take some time to get used to so any help from other testers or even the ever-present @DrTstandy as to how to focus on and think about those swings would be nice.

The other issue I'm having in the feels for that swing comes down to a physical issue. My ankles suck, just straight up. They sometimes roll quite easily, especially my right ankle, which has a click when I walk on it. So the idea of the heel lift and stomp has got me a little skittish as is. Again, hopefully due to the stretching program for level 2 I can avoid some of that was we go, but it will be a factor to watch going forward. Also as an aside here, the fatigue issue that I was concerned about with the swing increase to 57 swings in the training and the pre and post drivers adding 10 more for a total of 67 swings didn't show up on Monday night. It was also a nice calm 74 degrees with relatively low humidity as well... so take that for what it's worth

So yeah, back on a M/W/F schedule, ready to dig further into speed for level 2. Always fun and ready to go!

So first off great work finishing the first level and good to see some increases in speed. 

I think it is important that if you have any pain in a drill or position, we would advise you to not do that drill. There are other ways to get similar results without those drills. What you bring up about "learning" a new drill is a very real thing. I would suggest that as you start learning this new drill, for example the heel stomp, that it would be good to take a few very slow swings and really try and feel that movement. That would be the heel coming down before the downswing starts, to really feel that loading into the lead leg. Once you have done that a few times and get the feel, then go right into the 3 max effort swings. Hopefully over time those slow starting swings don't have to be as high in number and you can get into the training. 

On a side note, I find that players who get upper body dominant and lead with the arms/chest as apposed to the lower body, these drills feel very uncomfortable for them. So the technique of feeling the lower body firing first is very hard for a lot of golfers. If I coudl physically screen everyone we could understand some of those limitations a little more. But one quick one you could do in your home would be the ability to rotate on the lead leg only. So put a club across your chest, lift up your trail leg and first try balancing on just your lead leg, after that try adding some rotations to that position. If you really struggle with that movement, it would for sure alter your bodie's ability to transfer force to the lead leg, because you wouldn't feel comfortable in that position. Could easily add in some of that to your evening routine or anytime during the day, just balance on the lead leg, arms across the chest and do some rotations.

[DrTstandy]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:41 PM, Sluggo42 said:

I’m trying to stick with same swing for irons after yesterdays fiasco with irons swing. I tried the John Daly swing with them and it wasn’t good. But, I have found that my normal swing has picked up 10-15 yards with irons. Todays round was pretty solid at 5 over, including a stupid double on 9 after coming up a yard short of clearing the ditch, duherrrrr…

driver has been longer, which is giving me shorter approach shots, which is also at least  a club less into the equation. So basically for instance, on a hole that I hit a good drive on, I’m hitting an 8 or 9 iron in, instead of a six or seven iron. 
so obviously that’s a plus. I’m learning quickly to leave the swing speed “swing” in the garage, and am finding the good old regular swing is longer, without really trying.

i saw the flaws quickly, and instantly bailed on the speed “swing”, on irons for sure. The driver however seems to like the bigger swing, and I’m hitting that pretty well. Now also keep in mind, we have barely started week six, and I have plenty of time to get all messed up.

i guess my question back to you is; did you return to your “old swing” without the flaws? And if and when, did you find it to still be faster than it was.?

cheers

So irons are tough because we don't often hit irons at the same distance every time, or even at max intent every time. I love that you point out that the normal swings, either with driver or irons are faster. Raise the ceiling you raise the walls, as the saying goes. I find more and more that players who can start to trust the new speeds out on the course get a big benefit from the speed. Being able to keep the same swing, and by that I mean intent, but have it be 3 to 5 mph faster is that 10 to 15 yards out on the course that makes a huge difference.

[DrTstandy]

On 7/8/2023 at 4:19 PM, Berg Ryman said:

So due to a busy than expected weekend I will be starting in on level 2 on Monday evening. Played today though and hit se absolute Bomba. Had a 300 yard par 3, hit 3 wood and had 50 in. 375 yard uphill par 4, 98 in. 

So to answer the question as to the level of play if I'm playing better, I'll say this. I think the training raises my scoring floor, even if it doesn't move my scoring ceiling higher. The thing with the distance is that it takes bad swings and at least moves them in a direction further down, instead of a slower swing and bad contact which leads to just short and crooked.

Like for example, that day I scored the 42 with all the 3 putts, I'm still hitting greens, I'm still in with a shot because I'm further down. If I putted well I ball struck my way that to a 37 or 36, instead of maybe ball striking to a 41 with the same amount of putts leading to a score like 46.

I hope that idea makes sense

I haven't every heard of the idea of distance raising the floor but I like that a lot. I think that is a perceptive aspect of golf impovement. I have been doing speed training for 2 years, some swing work as well. Felt a little lost last year, but am playing better this year. Hitting it much much farther and better than I ever have in my life. Have shot some great rounds, but I did that with my old swing and speed. I came home from a round yesterday and my wife asked me how I played, shockingly she knows scores now after 13 years of marriage. I told her I just didn't feel like I played great a few bad holes, and she said "well what did you shoot" It was a 78. She was like "wow that is great, it seems like your old bad rounds used to be way higher" I think that is the case, my floor is definitly raised up a lot. 

[Berg Ryman]

1 hour ago, DrTstandy said:

So first off great work finishing the first level and good to see some increases in speed. 

I think it is important that if you have any pain in a drill or position, we would advise you to not do that drill. There are other ways to get similar results without those drills. What you bring up about "learning" a new drill is a very real thing. I would suggest that as you start learning this new drill, for example the heel stomp, that it would be good to take a few very slow swings and really try and feel that movement. That would be the heel coming down before the downswing starts, to really feel that loading into the lead leg. Once you have done that a few times and get the feel, then go right into the 3 max effort swings. Hopefully over time those slow starting swings don't have to be as high in number and you can get into the training. 

On a side note, I find that players who get upper body dominant and lead with the arms/chest as apposed to the lower body, these drills feel very uncomfortable for them. So the technique of feeling the lower body firing first is very hard for a lot of golfers. If I coudl physically screen everyone we could understand some of those limitations a little more. But one quick one you could do in your home would be the ability to rotate on the lead leg only. So put a club across your chest, lift up your trail leg and first try balancing on just your lead leg, after that try adding some rotations to that position. If you really struggle with that movement, it would for sure alter your bodie's ability to transfer force to the lead leg, because you wouldn't feel comfortable in that position. Could easily add in some of that to your evening routine or anytime during the day, just balance on the lead leg, arms across the chest and do some rotations.

Tyler, it isn't that pain exists when I'm going the drill as of now, it's just that I know my ankle and how dodgy it can be from time to time, so I'm going to need to be a touch mindful of it on the heel stomp. I will work on the balancing aspect and driving with the lower body though in a way to hopefully mitigate that concern or fear. I started to find it with the steps, I think focusing on it can only help the other swings as well. I'll add it in and see

[Sluggo42]

Man I roasted my drives today. Anymore, a 240 something is a mishit, or a steep uphill shot. I got a 284, a 297, some 260's etc.. I even hit a tree on the fly that used to be one we would get behind over on the right side of 17. 

Irons were crispy today, and ~10 yds longer with the good old swing. As usual, a good dose of stupid ruined a potentially great round. 

I cannot hit my irons with the SS Swing, but the driver seems to work. Even when I miss, it still goes ~240 ish, so I simply cannot complain about extra speed hurting my game. 

I think its going to be a tough road ahead to get my index much lower, because its not the length of my hits that are hurting my score, its the foolish mental lapses along with the occasional less than optimal swing.

[tommyb1683]

11 hours ago, tommyb1683 said:

Heading out to play a regular round this morning at my home course. This is usually where I judge my progress or club selection since I know the course really well. I just finished week 5 I will have all my numbers up later on when I can get on the computer. 

Home course was closed and they didn’t email anyone who had tee times which wasn’t cool. We got another tee time at a close course just as nice. I shot an 80 today. Super happy about that, I had a bunch of great drives hit roughly 50% of fairways with the driver, aka making better contact. I would say things are really coming together. I am not happy though because I am leaving for 2 weeks for military training. I am bringing my speed sticks with me though to continue with my training. Should be interesting.

[BobBC78]

Started week 2 of Level 2 training today. I missed that there was a new dynamic warmup for Level-2 (thanks @Berg Ryman for mentioning it your post yesterday) but used it today and (clearly) will use it going forward. I like this warmup protocol a lot and plan to incorporate elements into my pre-round warmups.

My pre-training swing was 85 today, which is my best yet and I suspect is the result of finishing the Level-2 warmup with 10 heavy club swings of increasing speed. Unfortunately, my post training swing was also 85. Its another hot, humid day in NE and I was pretty gassed by the end of the training session. 

My non-dominant swings remain very awkward feeling as does the "heel-stomp' swing on both sides. I'll post week-2 results after my third session. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by BobBC78

[Berg Ryman]

1 minute ago, BobBC78 said:

Started week 2 of Level 2 training today. I missed that there was a new dynamic warmup for Level-2 (thanks @Berg Ryman for mentioning it your post yesterday) but used it today and (clearly) will use it going forward. .I like this warmup protocol a lot and plan to incorporate elements into my pre-round warmups.

My pre-training swing was 85 today, which is my best yet and I suspect is the result of finishing the Level-2 warmup with 10 heavy club swings of increasing speed. Unfortunately, my post training swing was also 85. Its another hot, humid day in NE and I was pretty gassed by the end of the training session. 

My non-dominant swings remain very awkward feeling as does the "heel-stomp' swing on both sides. I'll post week-2 results after my third session. 

So, I think I'm of the same mind as you are Bob on the newer warmup protocol for Level 2 being better for me than Level 1. I think when you guys see it you'll notice Level 2 is more about focusing on rotational motion and is more stretch and activiation based and the movements in Level 1 where were about really thinking about engaging more systems at once. I like the focus of Level 2's warm-up as it focuses on more movements to just get trickier muscle groups loose that I sometimes struggle getting activated on my own.

Tonight is hopefully session two the weather plays along, and it'll come after a potential pickleball session as well this evening as I start trying to round into tournament form for that in a week's time. Maybe the senior set for my pickleball playing self was the right way to go!

[MsWalkrOfSky]

Ugh. Just in case anyone else is brain fart worthy like me. I've been doing the step hits incorrectly for the last 3 weeks of sessions. Just noticed that you're supposed to step forward in the backswing, not in the foreswing. Just in case anyone else missed that detail.