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Curious question.. so I'm in the process of looking at a new shaft for the driver. With a SS averaging 111 mph, I'm in between S and XS flex. Depending on the shaft bend profile, I seem to get good and not so good results with both flexes. I've never put the data together though to see which profile I'm getting the better results with. I'm guessing it's the S shafts with a stiffer profile or XS with a slightly softer profile..?

Question: would you consider my tempo (driver swing) more on the smoothe or aggressive side of the fence? Or is it right in the middle? The shaft I play now is a UST Elements Chrome 6f4. Tipped S+. It feels good but almost a tad soft. When I've had my Wheaties and I'm maxing out my SS, my miss is a slight push which can be a shaft flex issue.

Any suggestions?

Thx!!!



the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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4 minutes ago, azstu324 said:

Curious question.. so I'm in the process of looking at a new shaft for the driver. With a SS averaging 111 mph, I'm in between S and XS flex. Depending on the shaft bend profile, I seem to get good and not so good results with both flexes. I've never put the data together though to see which profile I'm getting the better results with. I'm guessing it's the S shafts with a stiffer profile or XS with a slightly softer profile..?

Question: would you consider my tempo (driver swing) more on the smoothe or aggressive side of the fence? Or is it right in the middle? The shaft I play now is a UST Elements Chrome 6f4. Tipped S+. It feels good but almost a tad soft. When I've had my Wheaties and I'm maxing out my SS, my miss is a slight push which can be a shaft flex issue.

Any suggestions?

Thx!!!
 

 


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looks pretty smooth to me. Transition is key and you seem to transition without aggression.

Another thing to consider is I believe it's best to play the softest shaft that works for you. A fitter would be best to visit and advise  as maybe you need a stiffer area near the head or handle.

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If you want a suggestion I would explore the HZRDUS series. They play relatively stiff compared to other manufacturers.

I’ve played X flex drivers for twenty years. Last season I went down to a stiff (6.0) flex and I am so glad that I did.

During my fitting I was between 109-117 for swing speeds and the softer shaft gave me a better spin / launch profile.

Good luck.


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7-iron swing sequence from a recent range session. Amazing how much progress I've made this year. Still taking the club back a bit inside though. Misses lately have been blocked right or hooky as a result. Something to focus on during my next session.

According my Swing Caddie, this particular swing was 169-yard carry.

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Driver: :callaway-small: Callaway Epic Flash, HZRDUS Yellow 6.0, Black Star Sidewinder
3W: :mizuno-small: Mizuno GT 180, MRC Tensei White Stiff, Stock Mizuno/Golf Pride Tour Velvet
22° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra F8, AeroTech SteelFiber i95 Stiff, Black Star Sidewinder
5-GW: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby PTM Chrome, 1° Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff, Red Star Sidewinder
54°, 60°: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby M-Series+, KBS 610 Stiff (54°), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Regular (60°), Lamkin Crossline
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looks pretty smooth to me. Transition is key and you seem to transition without aggression.
Another thing to consider is I believe it's best to play the softest shaft that works for you. A fitter would be best to visit and advise  as maybe you need a stiffer area near the head or handle.
So part of my dilemma is that most retailers/fitters don't carry the shaft that I'm interested in. The UST Proforce V2 Black. Golfworks carries them for $60 and would look pretty killer with my F8+ black head. From what I've read, it looks to play a tad stiffer and has a fairly low-ish torque. I'm leaning toward a S flex and maybe tipping it to play S+.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..


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Driver one of my biggest problems, trying to be more consistent with it.

 

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Working on quieting my lower body "slide" and replacing it with a better Rotation move.

 

Scores are starting to reflect all of the work.

 

 

 

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Driver -   Ping G410 Plus 9° Tour 65 S
Fairway -  :srixon-small: Z785 13.5° Tensei CK Pro Orange 70 S

2 Iron - :srixon-small: ZU65 18° AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S

Irons -  :srixon-small: Z785  TTDG IT S400 3,5-Pw 1° flat
Wedges - :cleveland-small: RTX4 Raw 50° 54° 58°  TTGDTI S400 1° flat

Putters -   Odyssey Toulon Stroke Lab Austin/Nike  Method Converge B1-01 UST Frequency Filter/Odyssey 2 Ball DFX/ TaylorMade Spider
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This is my happy swing.  Good right side rotation through the ball while maintaining my height.  This was a soft cut off the left tree line with 290 carry and 3 yards of roll 🤣

 

 

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Another 7 iron sequence. Pesky takeaway still causing me to get stuck. This one was decent distance, but left, as is my miss lately. With the occasional block right thrown in for good measure.

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3W: :mizuno-small: Mizuno GT 180, MRC Tensei White Stiff, Stock Mizuno/Golf Pride Tour Velvet
22° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra F8, AeroTech SteelFiber i95 Stiff, Black Star Sidewinder
5-GW: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby PTM Chrome, 1° Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff, Red Star Sidewinder
54°, 60°: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby M-Series+, KBS 610 Stiff (54°), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Regular (60°), Lamkin Crossline
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Updated sequence from my range session Sunday. Feeling good heading into spring.

Unfortunately, my video skipped a few frames toward the end...

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What's in my 2020 Sun Mountain Sync bag?

Driver: :callaway-small: Callaway Epic Flash, HZRDUS Yellow 6.0, Black Star Sidewinder
3W: :mizuno-small: Mizuno GT 180, MRC Tensei White Stiff, Stock Mizuno/Golf Pride Tour Velvet
22° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra F8, AeroTech SteelFiber i95 Stiff, Black Star Sidewinder
5-GW: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby PTM Chrome, 1° Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff, Red Star Sidewinder
54°, 60°: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby M-Series+, KBS 610 Stiff (54°), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Regular (60°), Lamkin Crossline
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I took a couple videos yesterday to see what worked and what didn’t. I’ve been focused on rotating arms at the same speed as my body on the downswing to keep all in sync. For the first round of the season I was pleased.








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3 hours ago, bens197 said:

I took a couple videos yesterday to see what worked and what didn’t. I’ve been focused on rotating arms at the same speed as my body on the downswing to keep all in sync. For the first round of the season I was pleased.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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Solid move!!

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Solid move!!


Thanks...still needs some work but I’m happy with where I’m at.
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3 hours ago, bens197 said:

I took a couple videos yesterday to see what worked and what didn’t. I’ve been focused on rotating arms at the same speed as my body on the downswing to keep all in sync. For the first round of the season I was pleased.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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Very nice sound on that iron!

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What's in my 2020 Sun Mountain Sync bag?

Driver: :callaway-small: Callaway Epic Flash, HZRDUS Yellow 6.0, Black Star Sidewinder
3W: :mizuno-small: Mizuno GT 180, MRC Tensei White Stiff, Stock Mizuno/Golf Pride Tour Velvet
22° Hybrid: :cobra-small: Cobra F8, AeroTech SteelFiber i95 Stiff, Black Star Sidewinder
5-GW: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby PTM Chrome, 1° Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff, Red Star Sidewinder
54°, 60°: image.png.47d41317a1a558f00a2214a77fe46b6c.png Maltby M-Series+, KBS 610 Stiff (54°), KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Regular (60°), Lamkin Crossline
Putter: :taylormade-small: TaylorMade Spider X, 33", Golf Pride Tour Only Red Star
Ball: :Snell:Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow

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Very nice sound on that iron!


You should have felt it! TS1

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32 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Thanks...still needs some work but I’m happy with where I’m at.

 

 

... In a perfect world, I would like to see the shaft more on plane going back instead of inside and not crossing the line at the top. I stress "perfect" because Raymond Floyd is in the Hall of Fame taking the club much more inside and even more across the line. That said I absolutely love your tempo and speed! As long as your swing is repeatable and you are hitting the ball where you want without blocks or hooks, "perfect" is usually pretty irrelevant. Especially with your tempo and balance. 👍

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Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 17* ... Atmos TS Blue 75s
Utility:   TaylorMade UDi 2 iron ... Kuro Kage Black 90Hys 
Irons:   4-pw TaylorMade P790 (2019) ... Seelfiber i95 r-flex
              4-pw TaylorMade P760 ... Recoil Prototype 95 r-flex
              5-pw Srixon Z Forged ... Modus 120 s-flex (UDi 4 iron ... Modus 105 s-flex)
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind /SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Recoil 110s
Putter:  Bobby Grace 6330 at 33.25"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5x

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Here's my swing with a 5 iron

 

Here's my swing with a driver

 

 

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... In a perfect world, I would like to see the shaft more on plane going back instead of inside and not crossing the line at the top. I stress "perfect" because Raymond Floyd is in the Hall of Fame taking the club much more inside and even more across the line. That said I absolutely love your tempo and speed! As long as your swing is repeatable and you are hitting the ball where you want without blocks or hooks, "perfect" is usually pretty irrelevant. Especially with your tempo and balance. 


Thanks

Balance is so underrated but so important. When people offer feedback and include that word, my ears perk up and I listen.

32 years of playing without formal instruction has created certain habits. The bad habit I’m trying to ease is reducing how steep I get through impact.

As you pointed out, I am inside on the takeaway and my downswing begins with my left arm pulling downward. To counter, I am consciously trying to tell myself to keep my right elbow rotating into my torso through the downswing. Everyone speaks their own swing language and this concept in my head lets me feel the club shallowing out into impact.

It’s early in that process but so far, I feel connected.
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... In all my years of teaching I never taught "perfect". All instructors have their own opinions about the golf swing but my focus was always on just helping my student do what they already do, just do it better. Like turning a slice into a manageable fade. I have always thought the most important element was shot distance and direction. If you are hitting the ball where you want with the distance you want, swing mechanics are really irrelevant. I am old enough to remember swings like Trevino, Floyd, Palmer and Chi Chi that were all very "flawed" but consistently repeatable. The other 2 big requirements for me was tempo and balance. If you have those 3, there is very little reason to ever change anything imo. 

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Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 17* ... Atmos TS Blue 75s
Utility:   TaylorMade UDi 2 iron ... Kuro Kage Black 90Hys 
Irons:   4-pw TaylorMade P790 (2019) ... Seelfiber i95 r-flex
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