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Found this mess when I finished the demo up this week. Yea that's the bottom of the rubber roof and that's old shingles. Someone had an old chimney in this section and never put anything under it to make sure there was wood to support the roof. There's a ton of old water damage that doesn't look like it has happened for a while. I will have to get the rubber roof taken care of in a year or two and I will try to remove any bad wood from below and frame then put plywood on top of it to support the rubber roof. I HATE people who don't know how to do things the right way.
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Amazing that people take shortcuts like that without thinking about the repercussions.


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We did a ton this year but this has to be my favorite. My parents helped us build this in our family room.  

Almost finished building myself a new smoker, will get it done tomorrow before seasoning it and hopefully getting some ribs cooked. Sunday morning   Monday afternoon   

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Amazing that people take shortcuts like that without thinking about the repercussions.


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If I knew what I know now I would have never touched this how with a 2000 ft pole

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2 hours ago, tommc23 said:

If I knew what I know now I would have never touched this how with a 2000 ft pole

It’s amazing to see the variance of quality from home to home.  When you think about it, how many remodels are happening without a proper permit?
 

Every time we go to someone’s home for an alarm I try to check out the basement to see what kind of surprises I can find; especially among the elderly who aren’t venturing down there that often. 
 

Sorry for your luck with the lazy prior owners. Nice to have parents who are smart with construction Tom...that’s how we’ve been able to buy a fixer upper as well. 

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6 hours ago, bens197 said:

It’s amazing to see the variance of quality from home to home.  When you think about it, how many remodels are happening without a proper permit?
 

Every time we go to someone’s home for an alarm I try to check out the basement to see what kind of surprises I can find; especially among the elderly who aren’t venturing down there that often. 
 

Sorry for your luck with the lazy prior owners. Nice to have parents who are smart with construction Tom...that’s how we’ve been able to buy a fixer upper as well. 

The funny part is my town only requires permits for full rewire of the house or replacing the electrical box. So I can redo the two rooms I'm doing without a permit. I'll be doing things to code or beyond but I called the inspector who does the permits and that's what I was told.

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5 minutes ago, tommc23 said:

The funny part is my town only requires permits for full rewire of the house or replacing the electrical box. So I can redo the two rooms I'm doing without a permit. I'll be doing things to code or beyond but I called the inspector who does the permits and that's what I was told.

That sounds fair. Good luck!!

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1 minute ago, bens197 said:

That sounds fair. Good luck!!

Yea I'm glad I can redo the electrical I found knob and tube running into the rooms I'm doing but no signs of it on the panel freaking people. This is why I have a 5 year plan to have the whole house renovations done so I don't have to worry about problems

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Yea I'm glad I can redo the electrical I found knob and tube running into the rooms I'm doing but no signs of it on the panel freaking people. This is why I have a 5 year plan to have the whole house renovations done so I don't have to worry about problems

Good plan. It sounds like it’ll be an adventure. 
 

It is amusing to see how some people’s brains work when it comes to wiring and plumbing.
 

One of our first projects was to redo our master bath which meant move the shower 3’ into the closet so we could add a double sink and vanity.  Popped up the floor and what did we find?  Yup, a double P trap for the shower 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

 

 

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Good plan. It sounds like it’ll be an adventure. 
 
It is amusing to see how some people’s brains work when it comes to wiring and plumbing.
 
One of our first projects was to redo our master bath which meant move the shower 3’ into the closet so we could add a double sink and vanity.  Popped up the floor and what did we find?  Yup, a double P trap for the shower 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
 
 
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Good plan. It sounds like it’ll be an adventure. 
 
It is amusing to see how some people’s brains work when it comes to wiring and plumbing.
 
One of our first projects was to redo our master bath which meant move the shower 3’ into the closet so we could add a double sink and vanity.  Popped up the floor and what did we find?  Yup, a double P trap for the shower 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
 
 
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We use to own a house that was built in 1929, all I can say is that every time we opened up a wall, ceiling or floor there was a surprise waiting for us.


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Nice Double P!  Did they also cut all the way through the floor joist to make it work? 

Not sure if its worse than yours but we had a shower stall in one of our rehab projects that had no trap at all!  🥴

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Good plan. It sounds like it’ll be an adventure. 
 
It is amusing to see how some people’s brains work when it comes to wiring and plumbing.
 
One of our first projects was to redo our master bath which meant move the shower 3’ into the closet so we could add a double sink and vanity.  Popped up the floor and what did we find?  Yup, a double P trap for the shower
 
 
 
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Is the second trap under the floor where we can't see it in the pic?

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Nice Double P!  Did they also cut all the way through the floor joist to make it work? 

Not sure if its worse than yours but we had a shower stall in one of our rehab projects that had no trap at all!  🥴

As you can see, the joists run front to rear and perpendicular to that plumbing.  They were slick and “only” cut down 5” of the 2x8 at the point where it was resting on a party wall.  After some laughs and some tears we did some repairs to the structural support before swapping the double p for a singular run. 
 

But as you describe, maybe traps are overrated anyways. I mean, who doesn’t love free smells? 🤣

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Is the second trap under the floor where we can't see it in the pic?

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Yes...the PVC connects to another metal trap which runs to the main drain. Silliness. 

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Yes...the PVC connects to another metal trap which runs to the main drain. Silliness. 
Got ya. Thought maybe I was going blind! Lol

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We use to own a house that was built in 1929, all I can say is that every time we opened up a wall, ceiling or floor there was a surprise waiting for us.


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This will be my house especially since it's from the same era

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This will be my house especially since it's from the same era

Yup my 1st house was built in the 40’s. Thankfully between my Dad and I we put the house in decent condition, and code.
This thread is like a Holmes/Holmes! You guys got this


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Yup my 1st house was built in the 40’s. Thankfully between my Dad and I we put the house in decent condition, and code.
This thread is like a Holmes/Holmes! You guys got thisemoji106.png


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today is get ready to install furnace day. Oil tank starting leaking beginning of last winter and I was filling it by hand end of the season so it didn’t burst. Gas line install was free and found a combination water heater and furnace.

bye bye electric water heater and 20 year old oil furnace!

Swapping out 3 items for 1 that’s smaller than the water heater 😂😂 maybe install a hitting net after?????? A man can wish

 

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Last of the demo done just a little clean up to do and to pull some old sub floor. Electrical running started today and once we know the layout for plumbing I'll lay the sub floor down, then frame what needs it and then insulate. 

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Last of the demo done just a little clean up to do and to pull some old sub floor. Electrical running started today and once we know the layout for plumbing I'll lay the sub floor down, then frame what needs it and then insulate. 
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That chipboard makes for an interesting wall plus the electrical box and romex


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