Game improvement irons for high swing speed high handicaps.

[twyatt700 1,483]

i’m in a very similar position to you. i started golfing a few months ago with hand me down clubs and i have a high handicap but exceptionally high swing speed. i swing my 7i 105-110mph.
the first fitter i went to heard my handicap and immediately fit me for GI irons. like you, i don’t see any reason to have a 215yd 7i. 
my advice to you is to truly take stock of how seriously you want to take getting better. if you just want to play some recreational golf, GI irons will definitely mask a lot of mishits and will allow you to enjoy the game.
what i decided to do was get fit for clubs that my game can grow into. if you’re dedicated to getting better, that route is going to serve you for the next handful of seasons at least. 

Sounds like you need player irons if you’re swinging that fast


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[Chip Strokes 6,724]

3 minutes ago, twyatt700 said:

Sounds like you need player irons if you’re swinging that fast


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[twyatt700 1,483]

Those that are saying their 7 iron is too long, feel free to send 20 or 30 yards of it to me [emoji846]
 
 

[emoji1316] amen!! I can swing my driver 120 but have no idea where it’s going!


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[twyatt700 1,483]

I’m late to this but, if you’re a high hcp then your distance doesn’t matter if you can’t score, I’m a 9 but have been down to a 6 without driving it more that 250 average and not very long with irons, but I’ve learned to hit where I’m aiming and know I can at least two putt from anywhere and will get it close with my wedges. One thing about pros that no one talks about is how good they are with their distance... control. They know exactly how far the hit the ball on the number. Everyone likes to talk about how far they car hit it, but it’s better to know what swing and what club can hit your number on the dot to get close to score. Distance is impressive but distance control is what matters


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[twyatt700 1,483]

 

That’ll do


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[Shank Aaron 349]

Lost my father right after Christmas, and this entire thread reminded me of some of my favorite pearls he dropped on me over the years. My pop was my hero, and we always had a great time no matter what. I can just see some of you guys golfing with us and him saying the below to any of you with a wide grin, and a belly laugh. I guarantee he's up there playing and still talking s**t. Miss that guy more everyday. Enjoy these. 

 

"You cant make a birdie off the tee, but you can sure as s**t ensure a bogey or worse from it".

"Have you ever tried the 'Suck less' approach to this game?"

My little brother scrambles to a solid par "Nice job, Jake, way to battle." I slice my tee shot to the next fairway over and break myself to just get double- "Joe, keep trying, bud"

"How hard you can swing, and how far you can hit it doesn't really matter much if you cant play the ball after it lands"

"Well man alive. You finally hit a fairway. Outdrove me by about 40 yards too, nice job bud. Maybe between now and home you can figure out an explanation to your mom why I still beat you by 27 strokes...."

"That's a nice pullover, son. You're gonna look great duffing your way to a 105 today."

[Micah T 1,259]

One fitter had a GI T300, one Ping g410, one PXG 0311P players, last one Mizuno JPX 921 Tour. So split 50/50. Sorry for the confusion. 
 
driver 270 carry 
3 wood 250 carry 
hybrid 230 carry 
7 iron target is targeted by me at 175 to 180 

What’s your dispersion with the 7i look like? Have you tried making a 3/4 swing? I have Titleist AP3’s and was prone to the 210 yard 7i now again, shortening my swing keeps it to 185 yards and has tightened my dispersion by a good 30 yards.
But if you hit it 200+ every time, you’re ready for players irons or blades, handicap be damned. As far as recommending sets for you, I’d suggest:

Titleist T100
Mizuno 921 Forged
TM P7MC
Ping I-blade

You might consider blending a set if you’re struggling with the longer irons, but as others have suggested, if you’re dedicated to improving you might as well get a set you can grow into. Best of luck


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[Micah T 1,259]

High swing speed here. The question is do you make good contact with the ball. Game improvement irons could be a good fit. Curious to see what 7i y’all are hitting 200+ though because it’s got to be close to 24* if that’s the case.....

There’s loft jacking, and then there’s a 24 degree 7 iron...

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[Buffly 561]

3 hours ago, Micah T said:

What’s your dispersion with the 7i look like? Have you tried making a 3/4 swing? I have Titleist AP3’s and was prone to the 210 yard 7i now again, shortening my swing keeps it to 185 yards and has tightened my dispersion by a good 30 yards.
But if you hit it 200+ every time, you’re ready for players irons or blades, handicap be damned. As far as recommending sets for you, I’d suggest:

Titleist T100
Mizuno 921 Forged
TM P7MC
Ping I-blade

You might consider blending a set if you’re struggling with the longer irons, but as others have suggested, if you’re dedicated to improving you might as well get a set you can grow into. Best of luck


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I had a conversation on the course with a fellow golfer that seems relevant to this discussion. 

All three of us found ourselves with the same club in our hands for a similar shot. It was about 90 yards and Gap wedge of 52° in hand. My friend scooped his sky high and ended up short. The other guy covered it with a partial swing and ended up landing really close to the pin and rolling long. I took a 90% swing and was somewhere in the middle and a little long. 

My buddy asked why his was short. I told him you are playing your 52° wedge at near 60° when you scoop it. He asked why the other guy launched so low and he swing so easy. I said it was because he is playing his 52° closer to 45° by coming in steep and taking a healthy divot. 

All this talk of 7i and 200+ yards really comes down to speed, quality of impact, and angle of attack. Fast club head speed and good Impact are thrown out the window if you are adding loft at impact. Modern lofts are one to two clubs stronger lofted and a healthy, steep angle of attack turns a stamped 7i into a retro 5i and steep makes that into a 4 or 3 iron. Sole camber, pre-worn front edge, v-sole, or game improvement wide soles all can help make steep not feel as steep. 

With so many things in dynamic motion that vary so widely from player to player, it all boils down to either, "are you having fun?" Or "can you score?" In the end, that's all that matters. 

My best 7i distance is close to 180yds when I push. My best scoring with a 7i is around 150-155 yards and a 3/4 swing. I don't care how far it goes as long as I know how far I can reliably hit it.