How'd you play?

[Josh Parker]

3 minutes ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

Getting my swing in to out on the downswing.  I was coming in too steep and have been working with a coach to correct.

As for putting, they have been working on the greens so they haven't been cutting as short.  The speed is already slower.  We also had a heavy mist/light rain as the round went on so it was getting slower and slower as we made our way thru the course. 

[Haro]

My driver, wedge and putter were all descent yesterday my irons which was superb 2 rounds ago , just couldn’t hit decently no matter what I twirled during the round and ended up missing a lot of greens but chipping and putting was good enough to post decent score.  My experiment with lining up with the markings on the ball ended and I rather see the “whole ball” when putting for most of my putts.   Haven said that.  There are exceptions. The short left to right breaker has always caused me problems. But lining it up with the line on the ball just left of the cup really gave to confidence to hole that putts so I may continue with that method on that type of putt only 

[Jim Shaw]

6 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

Getting my swing in to out on the downswing.  I was coming in too steep and have been working with a coach to correct.

As for putting, they have been working on the greens so they haven't been cutting as short.  The speed is already slower.  We also had a heavy mist/light rain as the round went on so it was getting slower and slower as we made our way thru the course. 

ahh yes, too steep, that happens for sure, as for putting yes good point, as the day wears on especially at this time of year in North America where the greens are really growing they do change... i need to remember that, as tournament season arrives for me, most of the courses play a shotgun for members in the morning then tournament in the afternoon, so I will be playing later in the day than I usually do, more grain and slower on the greens, thanks for that reminder...

[Jmikecpa]

Played in a bit of wind  yesterday and shot 1 over 73 for the day. While golf was somewhat important what was the accomplishment of the day was walking a golf course for the first time in a few years. Have not really talked about it but I have been battling some issues with my knees and my right hip the last few years that have kept me somewhat away from most things physical. I have been able to play albeit in a cart but some days were better than others. Since I have been home I have been going to the gym 4 days a week and this week I start training with a weight vest to see if I can start getting a bit stronger. Next step is some work with weights three days a week. It has been a battle the last several years and all the years of football are finally catching up to me.
 

The other side was the mental side for me in that I was not sure I could do it and that kept me away from trying to  walk a golf course. Not going to say I did it with ease as I was a bit gassed in the middle of the round but was able to keep going and get to the finish line. I know for some this is not anything to brag about but for me it is. For a few years getting out of bed in the morning and trying to get in the shower was a chore that most days was just downright painful. Hoping this is a positive step that I can build off of and continue to get better. 

[chisag]

2 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

 

... I think you are correct and by the 4th hole we should adjust to the green speed. That said I find it easier on unfamiliar courses than my home course. Getting close to 1,000 rounds the speed is pretty consistent although after a tournament they can be a little faster, which I find easier to adjust to. It is more difficult when they greens are running slower, which is rare but happens and I will find myself coming up short with putts I know can be pretty quick. Even late in the round. When you have had a similar putt hundreds of times it can be difficult to hit it harder, especially downhill. I am a die in the hole putter so rarely roll it too far past. 

... I think you know I have always felt you can completely ignore the line and concentrate 100% on speed and putt very well. Just looking at the putt to get the proper distance, the brain will take in the line. I see far too many concentrate on the line or try and concentrate on both speed/line at the same time and that can cause distance control issues. The brain can only concentrate on one thing at a time so trying to think of line and speed at the same times means the brain rapidly goes back and forth between the two without ever fully concentrating on either. But I am getting close to a feel vs mechanics discussion and that is another topic. 

[Jim Shaw]

13 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... I think you are correct and by the 4th hole we should adjust to the green speed. That said I find it easier on unfamiliar courses than my home course. Getting close to 1,000 rounds the speed is pretty consistent although after a tournament they can be a little faster, which I find easier to adjust to. It is more difficult when they greens are running slower, which is rare but happens and I will find myself coming up short with putts I know can be pretty quick. Even late in the round. When you have had a similar putt hundreds of times it can be difficult to hit it harder, especially downhill. I am a die in the hole putter so rarely roll it too far past. 

... I think you know I have always felt you can completely ignore the line and concentrate 100% on speed and putt very well. Just looking at the putt to get the proper distance, the brain will take in the line. I see far too many concentrate on the line or try and concentrate on both speed/line at the same time and that can cause distance control issues. The brain can only concentrate on one thing at a time so trying to think of line and speed at the same times means the brain rapidly goes back and forth between the two without ever fully concentrating on either. But I am getting close to a feel vs mechanics discussion and that is another topic. 

ahh, "feel vs mechanics" I have thought about that long and hard as well, and have come up with the secret, but cant' tell anyone lol, thanks for getting back to me...

[Nickygolf]

I played a round this morning at my go to local short course. It was raining which is always a good time to practic, for me anyways. The ground was soft, muddy and the greens were slow. I was struggling with accuracy on my drives, which is what held me back apart from a less than undesirable few 3 putts. The course is a par 65, and I shot an 85. We still had a blast apart from the unfavourable course conditions. I love this place mostly because we weren't rushed at any point and were able to finish in under 3 hrs. Lowlight of the day, was how the ball would drop and plug in the fairways. Highlight of the day, was the 18th hole par 4 dog leg left and I drew my drive as I planned it (which was the first time today) and had an easy up and down to finish Birdie. Things like that is what keeps me coming back.

[Northern Monkey]

Played my best ever round today. The driver was only average, nothing bad but nothing great either. The rest of my game though was good. 

My short game has been really good so far this season, and I’m finding the Runner putter that I’m testing has made a big difference to my game. 3 putts are few and far between and it’s rare for me to miss within 3 feet with it. The big difference it’s made has been lag putts. I just seem to be able to get really close to the hole with long putts using it. I just hope it continues as I’ve been asked to play for our club in a county tournament in a fortnight. 

I had 2 double bogeys for the round. The first on 3rd where I found water off the tee and the other one was on 13th, again due to a poor tee shot,  where I was forced to lay up before more water. 
Im gonna try and do some work with the driver as if I can get that working better but my big problem is consistency. I’ve had 2 good rounds this week and played in a competition on Friday. I didn’t play bad in the competition, which was match play, but was inconsistent again which cost me. If only I could play like this consistently instead of going out and sometimes shooting high 80s
 

[Nickygolf]

8 minutes ago, Northern Monkey said:

Played my best ever round today. The driver was only average, nothing bad but nothing great either. The rest of my game though was good. 

My short game has been really good so far this season, and I’m finding the Runner putter that I’m testing has made a big difference to my game. 3 putts are few and far between and it’s rare for me to miss within 3 feet with it. The big difference it’s made has been lag putts. I just seem to be able to get really close to the hole with long putts using it. I just hope it continues as I’ve been asked to play for our club in a county tournament in a fortnight. 

I had 2 double bogeys for the round. The first on 3rd where I found water off the tee and the other one was on 13th, again due to a poor tee shot,  where I was forced to lay up before more water. 
Im gonna try and do some work with the driver as if I can get that working better but my big problem is consistency. I’ve had 2 good rounds this week and played in a competition on Friday. I didn’t play bad in the competition, which was match play, but was inconsistent again which cost me. If only I could play like this consistently instead of going out and sometimes shooting high 80s
 

What app do you use?

[Northern Monkey]

32 minutes ago, Nickygolf said:

What app do you use?

ShotScope, there’s a testing review running at the moment with the V5

[sirchunksalot]

@cjeffs12 @Northern Monkey @Syks7 congratulations to each of you for shooting your best rounds ever! 

@Northern Monkeythose ShotScope numbers are crazy! Looks like your game was fitting on all cylinders except for losing .03 strokes driving, which is still phenomenal, btw. It's good to see how well you are performing with the Runner putter. 

[Northern Monkey]

Just now, sirchunksalot said:

@cjeffs12 @Northern Monkey @Syks7 congratulations to each of you for shooting your best rounds ever! 

@Northern Monkeythose ShotScope numbers are crazy! Looks like your game was fitting on all cylinders except for losing .03 strokes driving, which is still phenomenal, btw. It's good to see how well you are performing with the Runner putter. 

Thanks, the Runner really has made a difference and is so confidence inspiring 

[Knight017]

Well done, guys, for shooting your best score. I also managed to play my best round, winning the monthly mug for best stroke round from the tips. I have been trying to win this for 14 years. The gym and a lesson are working wonders.

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[cnosil]

7 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I would agree we should know the speed of the greens by the 3rd or 4th hole.  Could be a million things: failure to assess what is happening on the greens, failure to adapt, not trusting instincts, not knowing how to adjust.    We also probably remember putts that are short more than long because we beat ourselves up more over a short putt;  players don't seem to understand/believe that putts also have dispersion patterns and some will be long and some will be short.  

[silver & black]

I decided to quit worrying about tweaking my back/hurting myself and just swing like I used to. I found that instead of being short all the time I was long most of the day. It was quite liberating.... and I didn't hurt myself...lol. I'm going to keep this mindset for the season.

I shot 39 and 41 for an even 80.

 

 

 

 

[Shrek74]

Got to play 18 with dad today. There were lots of good and a bit bad, but lots of learning. I really need a driver. Averaging 200yds with my 2W/3W isn't going to cut it. Hopefully I can get out and test the TM BRNR Mini-Driver tomorrow, if there's a break in the rain.

The round was a tale of 2 9's. 43 on the front w/ 4 pars. 51 on the back with 1 par and 2 triples. Strangely I didn't feel it was an energy drain issue or anything. Yes, it was 95% humidity out there, but lots of clouds and temps in the low 70's at the worst. I just showed why I'm a 21 hdcp. But I also had shots and holes that show I am absolutely capable of getting down to 15 by season's end and close to 10 by end of next season. Just need to keep at it and get more practice in.

I did get to knock off 5 more holes on my Par/Birdie all 90 holes here by year end list. It's a tall order, but you can't do it if you don't try. I will say my GIR wasn't as bad as it looked. I had several shots that ended up on the fringe that cost me the GIR. So I'm not mad at the stats. Good putting day though, in spite of the 2 3-putts.

2023 SG

Today's Round SG

Better in some, worse in others. But the big jump for my approaches is a huge positive for me. Again, progress is progress. Let's keep griding!!

[edingc]

Couple clean rounds to end off the week. +4 76 on Thursday despite dumping a ball in the water with a wedge in hand (ouch!). +2 38 on the back yesterday and +2 38 on the front this morning. 

Feeling pretty good about my game right now for the first time in a while. My putting and short game have been really solid so far. My full swing is iffy at times - I've definitely gotten a little left and steep in my quest to eliminate the hooks. But all in all cannot complain.

Hoping we dry out soon as it's still very wet!

Edited May 5 by edingc

[Jim Shaw]

51 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I would agree we should know the speed of the greens by the 3rd or 4th hole.  Could be a million things: failure to assess what is happening on the greens, failure to adapt, not trusting instincts, not knowing how to adjust.    We also probably remember putts that are short more than long because we beat ourselves up more over a short putt;  players don't seem to understand/believe that putts also have dispersion patterns and some will be long and some will be short.  

interesting comment about dispersion pattern, makes sense... why shouldn't there be... 

[cnosil]

Nice day for golf except it was a little breezy and the rain for a few holes.   Wasn't really happy how I played but my short game wasn't too terrible.   

41/38:79     6 FW  6 GIR 28 putts.   

[cksurfdude]

On 5/3/2024 at 10:51 AM, Sluggo42 said:

I think it’s important to play against good players if you want to improve. 

figure out how to get a good drive out there , whether it be a draw or a fade. (Hard to get on in 2 if you’re 300 yards away, or deep in the junk)

figure out how to get on or near the green. (Don’t be a pin seeker unless you can confidently do so, and if you’re not a low single, you probably can’t. Just aim center green, and get on or close)

figure out how to get up and down. (Almost every club in your bag can be the best option, think more roll and less flight as a very general rule)

learn how to lag it close to the hole to eliminate 3-putts. (Think laundry basket distance. Two feet left is much easier than 8 feet beyond)

use a better ball. (Lots of decent balls to choose from, maybe it’s time to move on from the pinnacle or Kirkland)

use clubs that suit your game. (Those blades look good and feel even better when you flush one eh? Except yu haven’t flushed a hit since 2010, and it really stings on those cold mornings. Some super forgiving irons will dramatically improve your chances of getting on or close)

don’t try the billion to one odds shot out of trouble, as 99999999 out of a billion, it will cost you more than one stroke. (Just get a ball back into play. Not sexy, but smart)

THANK YOU capt obvious!

easier said than done eh, but all of these things are crucial to scoring.

Really great stuff there!!!
..and so you implemented it all and broke the course record, is that what you're telling us?  

Thx for the great reminders 

...

@Michael.Sandoval33 - happy happy 34 and sounds like you are playing some really good golf now!!

@Syks7 and @cjeffs12 and @Northern Monkey and @Knight017 - congrats!! all of you on each of your new PBs! .. great golfing and great mental game stamina!! 

@Jmikecpa - nice to read about your fitness progress and hope you can continue to build on it!! 

 

[sirchunksalot]

13 minutes ago, edingc said:

Couple clean rounds to end off the week. +4 76 on Thursday despite dumping a ball in the water with a wedge in hand (ouch!). +2 38 on the back yesterday and +2 38 on the front this morning. 

Feeling pretty good about my game right now for the first time in a while. My putting and short game have been really solid so far. My full swing is iffy at times - I've definitely gotten a little left and steep in my quest to eliminate the hooks. But all in all cannot complain.

Hoping we dry out soon as it's still very wet!

It's good to see you in such great form this early in the season Cody! Hopefully we'll hear about some under par rounds from you soon. 

[THE GOLF GUY]

9 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

[THE GOLF GUY]

9 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

[THE GOLF GUY]

9 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

[THE GOLF GUY]

9 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

[THE GOLF GUY]

9 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:

remind me of the swing changes you are doing... I am intrigued by your comment about leaving putts short on the wet grass. I hear some similar comments from golfers in the clubhouse after my rounds, including me, saying "if I could have gotten the ball to the hole today on my putts" or "i hit everything past the hole too far today on my putts". 

I wonder why we do that on occasion, we should know the speed of the greens etc. by about the 3rd or 4th hole... any ideas @cnosil or @chisag? 

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

[Jim Shaw]

10 minutes ago, THE GOLF GUY said:

I think we just underestimate how grass, grain and water combined really affect how the ball moves . Additionally, the ball picks up water which just even complicates it more . With that said , my mind set is that I try to envision that the ball is on a” long  wet rag “and that seems to help with my pace for the most part . If you don’t play in the early mornings with these conditions , it’s really hard to adjust even more . That’s why I just wait until 930 or so to play , the problem is corrected . Everyone have a great night !

I like the analogy of the "long wet rag" I won't use it but I like it. 

[Tom the Golf Nut]

I had a fun round today. The golf was good. One birdie and one bogey. The rest were pars. 
It was fun because I had a lot of interaction with nature. A spotted turtle on the 10th fairway. Which turned out to be an endangered species. When I looked it up they asked that I report where it was seen. Then on the 12th fairway a box turtle. And a run in with a decent size black snake on the 14th tee box.

 

Edited May 5 by Tom the Golf Nut

[rkj427]

50 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Nice day for golf except it was a little breezy and the rain for a few holes.   Wasn't really happy how I played but my short game wasn't too terrible.   

41/38:79     6 FW  6 GIR 28 putts.   

Still good to see that you are back out on the course and better results with come with more time out. 

[THE GOLF GUY]

53 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

Really great stuff there!!!
..and so you implemented it all and broke the course record, is that what you're telling us?  

Thx for the great reminders 

...

@Michael.Sandoval33 - happy happy 34 and sounds like you are playing some really good golf now!!

@Syks7 and @cjeffs12 and @Northern Monkey and @Knight017 - congrats!! all of you on each of your new PBs! .. great golfing and great mental game stamina!! 

@Jmikecpa - nice to read about your fitness progress and hope you can continue to build on it!! 

 

I totally agree ! I love to play with my friends but I have really tried to play more with the men that are + 3 to scratch players . First of all , you can learn a lot by simply watching . Secondly, most of these guys have become  better players by playing with and being challenged by a better player also . Last and most importantly, most of these guys will love helping you become a better player if you will just ask them . They haven’t always been an A player !

Edited May 5 by THE GOLF GUY