Hireko Goes Non-Conforming (Launches Juggernaut Driver)

[GolfSpy_X]

The Power Play Juggernaut Has 12% Larger Volume Than Average Drivers For Illegally Long Distance!

 

The Power Play Juggernaut Driver was designed for the 4 out of 5 golfers that want to play better by driving the ball straighter and further. First, the Juggernaut has a 515cc head, thus allowing it to be a more forgiving head on off-center shots. Secondly, you'll be able to generate more distance from the tee as the COR effect of the ball coming off of the explosive beta titanium face exceeds the USGA limits  too.

 

 

• 12% Larger in volume! For more accurate drives

• Beta Titanium Face Adds to illegally long distance!

• Does not conform to the Rules of Golf

 

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[GolfSpy WD]

I'm getting one of these bad boys!

[hckymeyer]

Hmm, only $70 for the head. I could see this as my new 48" scramble driver

[RookieBlue7]

I was thinking scramble club too. Where you see it for $70? I saw $119.99

 

Nevermind, that was an assembled club lol

[hckymeyer]

The biggest issue I see is not being able to hide it under a normal headcover!

 

Edit:  That and it's not in stock right now

[GolfSpy Barbajo]

Can BestGrips make a head cover for this bad boy?  

[hckymeyer]

Can BestGrips make a head cover for this bad boy?  

Not sure if a cow is actually big enough to get the material for that thing

[GolfSpy WD]

The headcover is $11...probably won't find many that fit.

 

Still, as an extra club that I could lend to friends interested in trying golf, it's awesome. I have a few friends in mind that I know would have way more fun if they could hit it farther and couldn't care less about conforming.

[MarcKilgore]

haha - I've got a 7m3 Blacktie from some experimenting last fall. Maybe I just found a use for it.  Team driver for the company scramble in June! We can buy extra drives in that one... it will be like a driving range contest.

[PlaidJacket]

Already surprised to see some here wanting to play with a non-conforming club. Ehem... illegal club that is. I suppose that's ok as long as it's not in a competition. Or in my Day Game! Ain't going to happen. Nothing wrong with using a 2x4 and a shovel either. Go ahead. Just not in competition. And to be honest.... it kind of plays into TaylorMade's etal stupid Hack Golf crap if you axe me.

[GolfSpy WD]

Already surprised to see some here wanting to play with a non-conforming club. Ehem... illegal club that is. I suppose that's ok as long as it's not in a competition. Or in my Day Game! Ain't going to happen. Nothing wrong with using a 2x4 and a shovel either. Go ahead. Just not in competition. And to be honest.... it kind of plays into TaylorMade's etal stupid Hack Golf crap if you axe me.

 

You're right. It doesn't belong in competition. I'll get it for myself for fun at the range, but really it'll be a loaner club to entice others to play golf.

[Mr_Theoo]

You're right. It doesn't belong in competition. I'll get it for myself for fun at the range, but really it'll be a loaner club to entice others to play golf.

Agreed, I saw this and thought it would be perfect for my wife to get her into golf. She couldn't care less if it's legal or not

[RookieBlue7]

Only time it'd be used for me would be in scrambles.  Why in scrambles?  Because every team scramble is full of cheaters.  We play by the rules in every one I've ever played in, and my team wins a lot of them that we enter.  And the last one we were in, we also won.  That said, I had warmed up that morning, and walked past several bags on my way to my cart.  There were bags on pretty much every cart that had more clubs in them than most demo carts.  Scrambles have no rules, and the last several I've been to, I've observed that no one follows the rules of golf, especially corporate scrambles.  The last one we lost, we were one of the first groups in and finished and our number got posted.   Magically, the last group of the day came in with a score 1 less than ours, and after I overheard someone on the phone telling someone what the low number was on the scoreboard.  Hmm..... So yeah, I've learned 2 things about scrambles.  1. No one follows any of the rules of golf.  2. Don't turn in a scorecard with what you think is a good score until very late so it doesn't go up on the board until everyone is in.   You turn in the card with a pile of cards and chances are, your score goes up last.

[Jondagcl]

This is fantastic!!!  Thanks for sharing this.  My grandfather who is in his mid 80's and (regularly shoots just under his age) is going to be thrilled about this.  The next time I am at his house I'm going to bring my iPad and show it to him and order one.  He could give two flips if this is legal or not, and I'm pretty sure very few of the guys he plays with regularly at his home course would either.  I could potentially see something like this being real popular for a lot of folks.  

[PlaidJacket]

Only time it'd be used for me would be in scrambles.  Why in scrambles?  Because every team scramble is full of cheaters.  We play by the rules in every one I've ever played in, and my team wins a lot of them that we enter.  And the last one we were in, we also won.  That said, I had warmed up that morning, and walked past several bags on my way to my cart.  There were bags on pretty much every cart that had more clubs in them than most demo carts.  Scrambles have no rules, and the last several I've been to, I've observed that no one follows the rules of golf, especially corporate scrambles.  The last one we lost, we were one of the first groups in and finished and our number got posted.   Magically, the last group of the day came in with a score 1 less than ours, and after I overheard someone on the phone telling someone what the low number was on the scoreboard.  Hmm..... So yeah, I've learned 2 things about scrambles.  1. No one follows any of the rules of golf.  2. Don't turn in a scorecard with what you think is a good score until very late so it doesn't go up on the board until everyone is in.   You turn in the card with a pile of cards and chances are, your score goes up last.

I hear you there RB7. I quit playing scrambles myself a few years back. They're kinda goofy anyway. Besides, to me it's not really golf. These days I prefer to only play in tournaments where I only play by own ball against others. Two man partnerships are good too but everyone plays their own ball/shots. As for cheaters... we've caught them at my club and they were kicked out. I've never understood why someone cheats. And then to win 3rd place in the 6th flight for a stinking pro shop gift certificate. Cheaters at golf are cheaters in life.

[whiskey golf]

This would be an interesting club to try out.

[SMRT]

Has anyone hit one yet? Is it actually longer and how much? I'm not going to buy one but I am just curious. I would also worry about it holding up very long.

[hckymeyer]

As far as I can tell It's been out of stock since this post started.

[MattF]

As far as I can tell It's been out of stock since this post started.

 

They do that. They release it on the site before they have stock on hand. I think it should be available by the end on next week.

[BIG STU]

Only time it'd be used for me would be in scrambles.  Why in scrambles?  Because every team scramble is full of cheaters.  We play by the rules in every one I've ever played in, and my team wins a lot of them that we enter.  And the last one we were in, we also won.  That said, I had warmed up that morning, and walked past several bags on my way to my cart.  There were bags on pretty much every cart that had more clubs in them than most demo carts.  Scrambles have no rules, and the last several I've been to, I've observed that no one follows the rules of golf, especially corporate scrambles.  The last one we lost, we were one of the first groups in and finished and our number got posted.   Magically, the last group of the day came in with a score 1 less than ours, and after I overheard someone on the phone telling someone what the low number was on the scoreboard.  Hmm..... So yeah, I've learned 2 things about scrambles.  1. No one follows any of the rules of golf.  2. Don't turn in a scorecard with what you think is a good score until very late so it doesn't go up on the board until everyone is in.   You turn in the card with a pile of cards and chances are, your score goes up last.

That is exactly what happens in every charity scramble down here that's why I shy away from them like the plague. The same ones that are complaining about mini tour players and club pros playing in them are the ones that have 16 to 18 clubs in the bag along with non conforming balls and they are the ones that are stacking scores. I only play in the ones that are business connected with the towing business and that is reluctlenty since my boss the owner does not play golf. I do play for fun and want to win and don't mind loosing when I am legitemently beaten but cheated no. I stay away from them even though in past years I do support the annual Shriners tournament by sponsoring a hole through the towing business. I have never took prizes in them I have always donated them back to the charity to be auctioned off

[MattF]

Everyone cheats in the one scramble I play in every year, but it's expected because it's all family.

[MmmmmmBuddy]

Well, we have finally brought a few of these into the shop to try out.  All I can say is that everybody, with the exception of one guy, hits it farther than his current driver. Looks pretty good as well, not too big by any stretch, and the sound is solid.  All in all, not too shabby for the price!!

[markb]

Okay, mmmmbuddy tempted me to bite.  Especially after reading another thread where some jamoke complained that Hireko had screwed him after giving him 2 shafts and he still couldn't hit it further.  I bought a head today and will put my favorite shaft in it and see what it does. It's only $70, fer pity's sake.

[KB McCool]

FYI............. if you have a big bertha, or say a G30 with good shafts fitted to you................ you will not see any difference in your distance, nor in the straightness of your shot with the Juggernaut... How can I say this, well I have a Juggernaut with a Fubuki ZT shaft which is what I have in my Big Bertha and I actually don't see as much distance with the Juggernaut... and if you don't get your belt buckle facing your target at the end you will still have the problem with a slice... i.e. dispersion is not any less than the two other drivers i presently have.. so, buyer beware... in fact I am willing to sell my Juggernaut if someone wants to make me an offer.. 

[markb]

Okay, I received my $70 Hireko Juggernaut and glued in my favorite shaft, a low torque Fujikura regular, the same shaft at the same length (47 3/4) that I play in my Optiforce.  So I should be comparing apples to apples.   I guess you're wondering, it is a Juggernaut or a Jugger-NOT?

 

First, let me say that the pictures are deceiving.   It is a very deep black-on-black club.  It's hard to see anything stamped on the bottom.  I suppose this is a good thing since it is an illegal club, fewer people will notice.   Very pleasant neutral looks.   It does NOT appear much bigger than say the Jetspeed even though it is listed at 515 cc.  Does not feel bulky in hand at all.   It's quite deep faced, which is good since I wanted to take BIG cuts with it.  10.5 was a good amount of loft for me.  I guess that's good since it only comes in one head.  Anyway, I found it to me too lightweight in stock set-up, so I added about 10 grams in lead tape to heel and toe until it felt right.  Initially everything I hit was open and fading.  But I found the right balance pretty quick and started hitting it straight.

 

First day:  It was surprisingly easy to hit, very forgiving, and felt great.   Sound was pretty good too, not nearly as tinny and pingy as some I've hit this year (G30 and V series).   Very frequently I thought I'd CRUSHED it, but then we gps'ed the shot and drove out to the ball and it would be no further than my Optiforce or just barely past it.   On two occasions I hit two low hook draws with the Opti that stayed in the fairway on the right by some miracle.  I grade them as B- drives.   Then I followed those poor drives with two Hireko's that I piped right down the middle PURE.   However, one ended up five yards short of the Opti one was only about 10 yards past it.   WTF?   I thought they were absolutely nutted --  they should have been 40 yards past!   But they were not.  Great feeling, great looking shot that goes "normal" but not long.

 

Second Day: I spoke too soon. Today (Sunday) I played the Hireko at my home course where my distances and setups are well grooved. The Hireko was 165 total yards longer than the Opti on the day. Two of its drives reached undiscovered country. l had several over 320. Not every one was perfect, but it is so forgiving that I can just take monster cuts with it and be confident that they won't stray too far. Similar swipes with both clubs usually resulted in the Hireko being 20 yards past.

 

I can't really explain why it wasn't longer for me on the first two days. It seems to be a low spinning driver. l haven't put it on a monitor, but I've seen some big roll outs. I saw one drive hit a cart path post on about its 4th bounce at about 280 out and carom 20 yards to the side. I just can't understand it, but there it is. More testing is warranted.

 

 I will say this if the Hireko Juggernaut were a legal club that offered this amount of distance, forgiveness, sensory pleasure, and ease of hitting, I  definitely WOULD play it!   It has been a better performer for me than about 7 or 8 of the $400 big name drivers from first tier manufacturers that I've tried in the past year.   I'd even go so far as to say it is a little easier to get in the fairway at the 280 mark than my Optiforce.   I can take big swings with it and still stay in the short stuff. 

 

In case you are wondering, I won't be returning it to Hireko for "false advertising".   It was only $70 friggin dollars and fun for the money.   Eventually I may sell it on ebay and get about $50 and retire with fond memories of my Juggernaut experience, but until then I'm having fun.

[RookieBlue7]

You're not hitting it 320 routinely and swinging regular flex unless you're on pavement. Sorry, but I'm calling BS on that.

[markb]

Feel free to call BS anytime you want -- but where in my posts did you read the word "routinely"?  

 

I believe I said I only had "several" over 320 -- over 3 days of testing.   Only several good ones over several days ain't all that special.   Hell, wind, hard fairways and elevation could do that for anyone.  Most of my drives with either club were only in the 280 range.

 

Since then I've had two more rounds with the Hireko and once again, it wasn't all that special.   A couple were longer than the Opti, most were not.  I think what I'm seeing is that while it is "forgiving" on off center hits in the sense that they don't stray far, you only get real oomph by hitting it dead center.   Anything off of dead center and it just doesn't leap.

[Kenny B]

Anything off of dead center and it just doesn't leap.

 

I knew there was a reason why I don't hit it very far!  

[RookieBlue7]

Feel free to call BS anytime you want -- but where in my posts did you read the word "routinely"?

 

I believe I said I only had "several" over 320 -- over 3 days of testing. Only several good ones over several days ain't all that special. Hell, wind, hard fairways and elevation could do that for anyone. Most of my drives with either club were only in the 280 range.

 

Since then I've had two more rounds with the Hireko and once again, it wasn't all that special. A couple were longer than the Opti, most were not. I think what I'm seeing is that while it is "forgiving" on off center hits in the sense that they don't stray far, you only get real oomph by hitting it dead center. Anything off of dead center and it just doesn't leap.

You said on te second day you had several over 320. In 1 day. And I still maintain my stance. 280 with regular flex isn't happening very often either. An extreme outlier where a few things contribute to it. Sure. But a regular flex swing speed isn't generating that distance. Not except an extreme outlier/anomaly.

[markb]

You said on te second day you had several over 320. In 1 day. And I still maintain my stance. 280 with regular flex isn't happening very often either. An extreme outlier where a few things contribute to it. Sure. But a regular flex swing speed isn't generating that distance. Not except an extreme outlier/anomaly.

 

I agree -- several good swings on one day do not Bubba make. That's why I test over many days and post results as I go.  I believe I said just that when I noted that I couldn't do anything with it on the first two days.

 

Couple of things you are overlooking, even as you did manage to note my preferred shaft flex.

 

1.  I play at 4700 feet in elevation.  (If you've never played in our western high deserts, you should try it some time.  It's a hoot.)

2.  My driver is 47 3/4 inches long.

3.  Even though my shaft is a regular, it's an extremely low torque (2.9) regular, so it twists off true more like an x.   It produces lower dispersion so I can swing it a bit bigger than I can with other shafts.

4.  I WAS TESTING AN ILLEGAL DRIVER WITH A HOT FACE, thus trying to swing out of my shoes.

 

All factors that would contribute a bit more distance than your typical "Made for" Speeder 57 noodle at sea level on moist Bermuda.  

 

And finally, I should point out that the flex of one's shaft does not determine one's swingspeed.  Rather the reverse is true --  swingspeed generally dictates the shaft one needs to use to control his shots and get the most out of them consistently.  

 

My SS is no great shakes.   Usually between 105-108, although I get lucky on occasion like everyone else.  I have a buddy with a SS of about 115-117 who plays 45" steel shafted drivers.  Every so often he likes to take a whack with mine for giggles and he can boom it way past my best, but it's so long-shafted and whippy that he sends them in soaring arcs left and right and to the moon three out of four times.   He always goes back to his controllable steel and I don't blame him.