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Tommy Fleetwood said the galleries were “brilliant” all week. I guess if it doesn't bother the pros why should we care.

 

 

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Anyone want to guess what we'll be debating next year on Monday after the open?

 

A) Joe Buck and the fox broadcast

B) course setup and difficulty

C) Tiger's runaway win in 2000 and will he do it this year in 2019

 

It's all so difficult to predict this revolving door of a sports news cycle.

 

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Now that's funny!  Funny, and sadly true.

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Tommy Fleetwood said the galleries were “brilliant” all week. I guess if it doesn't bother the pros why should we care.

 

 

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Don't think he was just being pc?

Just like fowler saying the course was great and set up fine today. Pros are expected to say certain things imo

 

 

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"Growing the game" is a great slogan but a bunch of crap. Other than the kids programs, what has the USGA really done to "Grow the Game"? Come up with slogans like, PLAY 9 or PLAY IT FORWARD.

 

Oh, wait, the new rules they are adopting in January of 2019 will make the official rules closer to what most weekend golfers have been doing for years.

 

Their equipment rules are about as laughable as their US Open set ups and their stance  on distance, or should I say stances. One year they say that golf is too hard so we need to "Play It Forward" and then the next year they say that the "The Ball is traveling too far and needs to be dialed back." So which is it, move up to shorter tees, or is the ball traveling too far.

 

By changing the grooves on wedges, they can reduce the spin and get players to throttle back and stay in the fairway. How's that workin' out for 'em?

 

Also, there was nothing wrong with the long putters, until someone won the US Open with one, then it becomes against the very founding tenants of the game, except that no where had that EVER been regulated.

 

Then after 118 years of setting up courses for the "national championship" they intentionally make the course unplayable so that the players look like idiots. And then a player fed up with the course set up acts like an idiot, knowingly violates one of the rules and excepts the penalty, and he is lauded as ruining the integrity of the game.

 

My opinion is that the integrity of the game was brought into question when they choose hole locations and green speeds where they had to know could not be played in the conditions that prevail in the area. The course should be set up so that everyone has the same opportunity to showcase their abilities rather than those who play well on Thursday and Friday are "penalized" by playing later in the day on Saturday when the conditions AND THE SET UP cause the greens to become untenable. This is not like some storm moved in and changed the conditions. This was the sun came out and the wind blew. ON THE COAST, the sun came out and the wind blew. If this was beyond their control than why didn't we see the same thing today.

 

Yesterday's round was not about how Finau and Berger played such a great round, while they did play well, not saying they did not. But by shooting just 4 under par they went from T45 to T1. Mainly, by playing worse on Thursday and Friday. Not through phenomenal play, but simply really good play less than ideal conditions. But 3 hours later when the leaders were finishing up, the greens were so slick no one could putt. Fleetwood today was phenomenal, yet even as well as he played that was not good enough to win because the course was much more playable for the leaders.

 

So some yahoo gets a little liquor in him and yells "Bababoeeee!" is just a jerk and only embarrasses himself. He may or may not even play golf, but that does nothing to the integrity of the game. Everyone I talked to at my course this morning seemed to think the USGA was the laughing stock not the crowd yelling or even Phil running and hitting a moving ball.

 

Absolutely agree - although the guys yelling are still complete idiots (pretty sure I heard someone drop the F-bomb on today's broadcast). No doubt DJ and several others would have played just as well if not better on Saturday, but I can't help feeling bad for Rickie Fowler. Up until Fleetwood's 63, Rickie had the best round of the tournament today and tied his worst career round yesterday. The USGA is a horrible organization that makes horrible decisions all the time.

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This happens at every event and not saying it is right. I think the issue with this event is Fox has a lot more mics near the players than other events. I have been to dozens of pro events all over the country and some of the things I have heard would make a trucker blush.

 

 

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This was it exactly. I mentionrd it in another post. That course was more mic'd up than Stephen A Smith anytime the ON Air lights go on.

 

 

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How many threads are we going to have about the idiots in the gallery yelling nonsense? I'm fine discussing it but let's reserve one thread for this.

 

 

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How many threads are we going to have about the idiots in the gallery yelling nonsense? I'm fine discussing it but let's reserve one thread for this.

 

 

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"Growing the game" is a great slogan but a bunch of crap. Other than the kids programs, what has the USGA really done to "Grow the Game"? Come up with slogans like, PLAY 9 or PLAY IT FORWARD.

 

Oh, wait, the new rules they are adopting in January of 2019 will make the official rules closer to what most weekend golfers have been doing for years.

 

Their equipment rules are about as laughable as their US Open set ups and their stance on distance, or should I say stances. One year they say that golf is too hard so we need to "Play It Forward" and then the next year they say that the "The Ball is traveling too far and needs to be dialed back." So which is it, move up to shorter tees, or is the ball traveling too far.

 

By changing the grooves on wedges, they can reduce the spin and get players to throttle back and stay in the fairway. How's that workin' out for 'em?

 

Also, there was nothing wrong with the long putters, until someone won the US Open with one, then it becomes against the very founding tenants of the game, except that no where had that EVER been regulated.

 

Then after 118 years of setting up courses for the "national championship" they intentionally make the course unplayable so that the players look like idiots. And then a player fed up with the course set up acts like an idiot, knowingly violates one of the rules and excepts the penalty, and he is lauded as ruining the integrity of the game.

 

My opinion is that the integrity of the game was brought into question when they choose hole locations and green speeds where they had to know could not be played in the conditions that prevail in the area. The course should be set up so that everyone has the same opportunity to showcase their abilities rather than those who play well on Thursday and Friday are "penalized" by playing later in the day on Saturday when the conditions AND THE SET UP cause the greens to become untenable. This is not like some storm moved in and changed the conditions. This was the sun came out and the wind blew. ON THE COAST, the sun came out and the wind blew. If this was beyond their control than why didn't we see the same thing today.

 

Yesterday's round was not about how Finau and Berger played such a great round, while they did play well, not saying they did not. But by shooting just 4 under par they went from T45 to T1. Mainly, by playing worse on Thursday and Friday. Not through phenomenal play, but simply really good play less than ideal conditions. But 3 hours later when the leaders were finishing up, the greens were so slick no one could putt. Fleetwood today was phenomenal, yet even as well as he played that was not good enough to win because the course was much more playable for the leaders.

 

So some yahoo gets a little liquor in him and yells "Bababoeeee!" is just a jerk and only embarrasses himself. He may or may not even play golf, but that does nothing to the integrity of the game. Everyone I talked to at my course this morning seemed to think the USGA was the laughing stock not the crowd yelling or even Phil running and hitting a moving ball.

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Golf is no longer ‘sitting on my hands' 1960ish country club entertainment. This has gone main stream. Found it refreshing hearing the banter

 

Loved it

I play at a local muni with construction workers and road crew guys swilling cheap whiskey and Busch Light tall cans, talking about each other's mothers and insulting each other's game. What we don't do is (a) talk (let alone yell) when someone is about to swing or putt, and above all (B) we don't talk poorly to strangers on the course. Nothing to do with country clubs or golf claps, everything to do with dignity and respect, especially around a sport that has espoused it longer than most.

 

 

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I'm not sure if it's a geographical or cultural thing and I definitely haven't been to as many tour stops as you...

But on the other side of the pond (with the exception of Ryder Cup) heckling isn't that noticeable. My last visit was at the Porsche European Open last year and your ears wouldn't bleed.

 

Yeah, you get the standard "get in the hole", but no bababooey nor mashed potatoes.

 

But yeah, I wish they were all kicked out. Growing the game has nothing to do with behaving like a gang of monkeys on LSD. 

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Tommy Fleetwood said the galleries were “brilliant” all week. I guess if it doesn't bother the pros why should we care.

 

 

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I think for the most part you just have to say that. Now of course they probably were pretty good to Fleet, esp Sunday, but you always have to talk about how good the fans are. And I would imagine by in large the fans were great, but those “yellers” I would imagine don't make it into that brilliant group

 

 

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I'm sorry.But tour golf is an entertainment sport just like football/mma fighting/nascar etc.A fan or patron should be able to express their feelings at an open sporting event.If you want golf to be all prestige than make it secluded elitist sport again.The tour is all about tv coverage and big dollar contracts.If an athlete at this level can't handle criticism than this isn't their calling

 

And why pigeon hole construction workers like the above poster stated?So a construction worker shouldn't even be allowed to be a golfer?

 

I've been in golf thru many eras.The persimmon to metal wood debates.The square groove controversy etc.I for one am done with the Secluded elitist sport era.Time to get this sport evolving into the modern era.

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If anyone ever invents a TV or app that filters out crowds I'd buy one.

 

Fox announcers kept saying N.Y. fans are great, but the vocal minority was the most obnoxious I can remember outside the Phoenix Open (at least a known cesspool where players know what they're in for when they enter).

 

Fox has no business broadcasting golf, there were a lot of mistakes - but Joe Buck has no business broadcasting period. Idiot!

 

Thank goodness the players were allowed to be the focus on Sunday, after Fox and the USGA both mucked it up earlier.

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I honestly don't mind an enthusiastic crowd, but the individuals yelling stupid remarks need to be stopped. I can picture some moron yelling something like "how's your ankle" then immediately texting his mouth-breather friends watching the broadcast to see if they heard him and thinking they are cool.

 

Edit to add that the crowd on 18 when Fleetwood was coming up seemed good to me - they were enthusiastic and clearly knew Tommy had a chance at history. Absolutely nothing wrong with that situation, at least that I heard.

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I'm sorry.But tour golf is an entertainment sport just like football/mma fighting/nascar etc.A fan or patron should be able to express their feelings at an open sporting event.If you want golf to be all prestige than make it secluded elitist sport again.The tour is all about tv coverage and big dollar contracts.If an athlete at this level can't handle criticism than this isn't their calling

 

And why pigeon hole construction workers like the above poster stated?So a construction worker shouldn't even be allowed to be a golfer?

 

I've been in golf thru many eras.The persimmon to metal wood debates.The square groove controversy etc.I for one am done with the Secluded elitist sport era.Time to get this sport evolving into the modern era.

I have no problem with fans or patrons expressing their feelings toward a shot or player(within reason). Cheer or groan as loud as you want to. Saying things like mashed potatoes, bababooey, or how is your ankle has nothing to do with golf.  I can accept the Get in the Hole since it is golf related but anything else just says "Look at ME!"  

 

I understand that growing the game may require golf to become more mainstream but why can't it be mainstream while still holding true to the core values that make this sport what it is and has always been. 

 

As far as I am concerned you can wear whatever you want, play whatever clubs you want, and if playing by yourself or friend, however you want but be respectful to others.  

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I'd like the meet the men/women yelling stuff. I really don't understand it. I have an idea in my head what they would look like and I'm pretty sure I'm spot on. But I don't get the point of yelling mashed potatoes baba boey get in the hole when off the tee of a long hole. Are they looking for interaction with the golfers? I will say this I do find great enjoyment out of fans yelling get in the sand after Justin Thomas hits.

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I'm sorry.But tour golf is an entertainment sport just like football/mma fighting/nascar etc.A fan or patron should be able to express their feelings at an open sporting event.If you want golf to be all prestige than make it secluded elitist sport again.The tour is all about tv coverage and big dollar contracts.If an athlete at this level can't handle criticism than this isn't their calling

 

And why pigeon hole construction workers like the above poster stated?So a construction worker shouldn't even be allowed to be a golfer?

 

I've been in golf thru many eras.The persimmon to metal wood debates.The square groove controversy etc.I for one am done with the Secluded elitist sport era.Time to get this sport evolving into the modern era.

What do mashed potatoes have to do with anyone's feelings? You may have the right to drink a beer, but ordering one by screaming dilly dilly a microsecond after the ball leaves DJ's club face?

 

Golf is entertainment. I will agree with that. But it seems we watch for different reasons. I watch it for the golf part, not the drunken obnoxious college guys trying to outfrickingobnox each other. There is no way that this is behavior is adding to the viewership, so this has nothing to do with tv contracts.

 

99% of all the complaints I have seen have not been about criticism of a player. It is the nonsense babbling after every single shot.

 

I have reread every post about construction workers and can't seem to find the part about them not being able to golf. I did see something about even some of the roughest talking guys who love to harass each other can restrain themselves when it could be offensive to people outside their group.

 

I can admit that I have been one of these guys at one point. The setting was a bit different. We were in a bar. My friends brother was playing in a rock band there that night. My drink of choice for the evening was a rusty nail. I might have tried to be the number one fan. On occasion my wife reminds me that I was the number one jackass.

 

If that kind of behavior is what it takes to move into the modern era, Then I'd be happy hitting rewind.

 

Again, I haven't seen one request to revert to sipping tea and doing nothing louder than a golf clap. Heck, if Koepka sticks it close on one of the last holes, scream like there was an interception at the goal line with less than a minute left of the Super Bowl. But that is cheering about the golf, not deep fried dill pickles.

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The thing that makes me laugh is majority of golfers and golf fans are white well to do Anglo saxons.These are usually the upper echelons of our communities and leadership rolls.And here they are making near obscene comments in one of the grandest most revered of all golf spectacles.On here it sounds many are shocked by this behavior.Maybe the true colors are starting to show

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its a cry for attention from people who clearly lack it in their past or present life. They hide in the shadows and within crowds as they clearly know what they do is wrong, in poor taste and juvenile.

 

 

I ask you, if there was only 6 people watching some golf stars tee off, on TV, do you think they would still do it?

 

I seriously doubt you will see this behaviour at the Open at Carnastie this year, if anyone shouts 'nonsense' a few other 'real' fans will probably have a word with them!

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