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In regards to editing missed shots, if you take 2 (or more) shots to get out of a bunker or flub a chip chances are that you'll have to add the second shot because SS won't read it. I'm not sure of the distance but you have to move further than you think for it to realise that you've actually taken that second shot.

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tony@CIC, thanks for starting this thread! This is my 2nd season with V3 and I agree it's much better than V2. It even works better than Arccos for me as I play a lot of morning golf and their sensors don't do as well in low light (not to mention that it's more expensive to use). 

I still often forget to mark penalties at the time, sometimes because I'm not sure which one applies. And I, too, sometimes forget to close out a hole while at the pin. But those are not my biggest issues. My biggest issue is that, being a bit on the ancient side, I often swing a club well off my ball to stay loose and sometimes (too often lately) if I take even a small divot, it records a shot completely messing up the tracking on that hole.  I can alleviate that by "pausing", but forget to do that and then forget to turn it back on.

No system is perfect (not yet, at least), but I do like Shot Scope best between them & Arccos.

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1 hour ago, Peaksy68 said:

Worked out how to edit. Need to get used to checking the shot registered and making the pin collect more automatic. Hope I’ll get quicker at editing and have less errors to correct once I get used to wearing it.

One feature I really like is the ability to see the last club captured. I just have to glance at the watch and I can see the club used. So far with the V3, the only shots not captured for distance is putting. I still haven't installed  a stick on sensor for my CB putter. I'm actually thinking of cutting back the screw on one - leaving about 1/4" nub and gluing it into the weight. Since I never change out the weights it would be a permanent solution 

@Golfhandds, I agree with you on the band and specifically the clip - it comes undone once or twice a round. Also given my hands/arms sweat, the rubber band isn't the best way to go. On the other hand these are minor inconveniences.   

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19 hours ago, Ell said:

Nelson, Hogan, Snead, Ouimet and the rest of the men who turned this game in to what it is today are turning over in their graves.

They each took advantage of technology of their era that wasn't available in previous eras and vastly improved the game.  What makes the technology jump today from the 70 to 90 years ago, any different.  

Sports like anything, must evolve or die. 

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16 hours ago, revkev said:

So you don’t think they’d use any advantage available to them. 
 

We have a pro at our club who was a young player on tour when Hogan was a veteran.  There weren’t always ranges at the courses used or even when there were they weren’t very good and guys needed to bring there own balls.

 

He told me that Hogan would find an off sight range, warm up there and show up in time to roll a few putts before his tee time.

 

i suspect that any of those guys would gladly have taken advantage of anything that the rules allowed if it would improve their game.

 

And this is from someone who grew up playing when courses didn’t have ranges, very few had yardage markers and my set only had odd numbered clubs. I loved the game then and love it now.

 

@Tony thanks for starting this thread. It’s been a while but as I recall it I would screen shot whatever I wanted from shot scope and then it was easy to post. I used it for my review in the Ping Long game thread. 
 

Looking forward to getting home and putting my new V3 in. 

HA...Rev. I didn't see your post before making mine, I was so astounded by his narrow viewpoint, I stopped reading and had to respond.  

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:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

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My putter sensor solution install worked for CB putters. I snipped off the screw part of the putter sensor leaving about a 1/16" nub and used contact cement. So far it's holding up after 9 holes tonight. 

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Cobra King F-9  5 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
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Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 

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2018 Official Tester :wilson-small: C300

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Wanted this to work so much but 3 watches later and 50 emails to support I gave up! Super support response and a full refund. The gps was way off in Arizona and was unusable! 

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9 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

My putter sensor solution install worked for CB putters. I snipped off the screw part of the putter sensor leaving about a 1/16" nub and used contact cement. So far it's holding up after 9 holes tonight. 

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I did this exactly for my putter as well and it worked great. Glad it worked well for you too.

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9 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

My putter sensor solution install worked for CB putters. I snipped off the screw part of the putter sensor leaving about a 1/16" nub and used contact cement. So far it's holding up after 9 holes tonight. 

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I put a gravity grip on my EVNROLL and did not need to cut anything 

 

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Hybrid: Cobra F8 3 Hybrid(19*) w/Recoil ES regular shaft 

Irons: Wilson D7 5-PW w/Recoil 460 Regular graphite shafts 

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore(50*/54*/58*) w/True Temper Spinner Wedge steel shaft  

Putter: 33" Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip 

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On 7/4/2021 at 1:59 PM, Ell said:

Nelson, Hogan, Snead, Ouimet and the rest of the men who turned this game in to what it is today are turning over in their graves.

How do you think they'd feel about those graphite shafts you're using??

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Been using one since the past version, the V3 is a great improvement inn size and technology.  I love how quick the support team responds.  When I got the upgrade to the V3 the strap was broken one onside.  They replaced the entire unit immediately without charge and didn't even ask for the broken one back.  Also like that you dont have to carry anything in your pocket or clipped to you to have ShotScope work.

 

If I had one request, it would be to have an overview of each hole.  I think this would be helpful when playing a course that's new to me.  Unfortunately we'll have to wait for that feature although they said they are working on it.

 

Overall much better than Arccos which I've tried.

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On 7/5/2021 at 8:35 AM, MIgregb said:

tony@CIC, thanks for starting this thread! This is my 2nd season with V3 and I agree it's much better than V2. It even works better than Arccos for me as I play a lot of morning golf and their sensors don't do as well in low light (not to mention that it's more expensive to use). 

I still often forget to mark penalties at the time, sometimes because I'm not sure which one applies. And I, too, sometimes forget to close out a hole while at the pin. But those are not my biggest issues. My biggest issue is that, being a bit on the ancient side, I often swing a club well off my ball to stay loose and sometimes (too often lately) if I take even a small divot, it records a shot completely messing up the tracking on that hole.  I can alleviate that by "pausing", but forget to do that and then forget to turn it back on.

No system is perfect (not yet, at least), but I do like Shot Scope best between them & Arccos.

Hey,  no need to worry about pausing here for that.  I have never had the shotscope record two shots from the same area.  It was mentioned in a post above that if you duff one in the sand then you probably have to record that in post-round because there isn't enough distance between your first and second shot.  The same would be true for a duff or whiff.  If it records your practice swing because you bounced it off the ground (I'm not sure how you would know that during the round), it will still record your subsequent hit from that spot.

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I’m on my second season with a V3.  No real complaints but having it be a tad bit smaller would be good.  Maybe start computing handicaps, would be easy for them to add. 
 

I’m going to have to cut my sensor down as well.

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9 hours ago, toehold57 said:

I’m going to have to cut my sensor down as well.

For a CB putter? My glue on is still in tact after 27 holes. 

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Cobra King F-9  5 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

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Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 

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2018 Official Tester :wilson-small: C300

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At what point do you guys think the distance numbers for each club are statistically significant? 10 - 20 - 30 rounds? As I look at the numbers and the  rounds I've played, the two things that neither ARRCOS nor Shortscope take into account as the conditions. For instance, my 7i out of tall rough is not going the same distance as from the fairway. Same with wind. Last week I nailed a driver 20 yds past where I typically  hit it - I also had a following wind in excess of 15 Kts. off the tee that probably contributed to most of that distance. 

What numbers do you use?  

 

And if Shotscope is listening: I prefer the data presentation on the phone vs the dashboard. On the phone it will show all 3 bars grouped by each club 'P-Avg', 'Avg' and 'Longest' whereas on the dashboard it's only one bar per each category. Maybe I'm missing a setting on the dashboard?  Also neither one - phone app or dashboard show how may hits  per club, although it does show frequency, which at least as this point is not meaningful to me. 

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:ping-small: G410 SFT driver 

Cobra King F-9  5 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

:CaddyTek: - 4 Wheel 
:footjoy-small: - too many shoes to list and so many to buy

:1590477705_SunMountain: And  BAG Boy

Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 

2020 Official Tester :SuperSpeed: Beginning Driver Speed  - 78

2019 Official Tester :ping-small:  410 Driver

2018 Official Tester :wilson-small: C300

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On 7/5/2021 at 9:03 PM, tony@CIC said:

My putter sensor solution install worked for CB putters. I snipped off the screw part of the putter sensor leaving about a 1/16" nub and used contact cement. So far it's holding up after 9 holes tonight. 

IMG_8299.JPG.b7b76b884114349962e7c6e1cb37a019.JPG

 

I did the same thing when I had Shotscope, but used liquid nails, instead. It never fell off and I had to pry it off when I got the StrokeLab to test.

To your question about significance: for us rank amateurs, I would think closer to 20, but depends on your issue - if you are a decent ball-striker but tend to spray the ball, it could be a little sooner than if you struggle with too many fat/thin, if that makes sense.

I also had the issue early that my 6, 7, and 8 all said the same distance because the par 3's at our league course are all similar in length, but depending on the wind, it could be either of those clubs.

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15 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

What numbers do you use?

P-average. No system, that I know of will take conditions into account.

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Irons: :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged 4-GW Project X Catalyst 80 6.0
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7 hours ago, MattF said:

P-average. No system, that I know of will take conditions into account.

P-average here as well.  Seems to match up to numbers I can count on in a good situation.  Rough?  Uphill downhill?  Wind?  Those are variables that will play in the club selection just like in the world without the p-average numbers.

That said, are the numbers perfect?  Not with me swinging the club!  But I greatly appreciate having a better baseline than what I had before.

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We now have strokes gained metrics and we can compare ourselves against different handicaps.  If I compare myself to a 10 hcp and see that I’m X strokes plus/minus from that average, can I roughly assume I’m X strokes away in handicap as well?

I don’t carry a handicap and probably never will.  Plus I’m too lazy to calculate it myself.  I’m guessing if SS says I’m 1.5 away from a 10 hcp in SG that I am also 1.5 away in handicap as well.  Roughly.

Good assumption?

 

p.s. - it takes me twice as many words to ask a question as the average person.  That’s my handicap!! 🤣

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