PuffyC Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Love this thread. I have a set of FG-17s and it’s pretty shocking how much smaller they are compared to modern clubs. If Wilson came out with a rebooted version that was hollow with all the modern tech I’d buy a set in a heartbeat. Just a gorgeous design. Semi-related but I wonder why more companies don’t do that - take an old classic like the FG-17 or Apex II cameos and give them a modern reinterpretation. I bet there are a lot of folks who grew up playing those clubs who would jump at the chance to own a modern version that looked the same but was much more playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Ping i525 vs. Mizuno MP 225 Quote 14 of the following: Ping G425 Max Callaway Epic Max 5 wood Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood PXG 0211ST 6-GW Cobra LTx 5-GW (never hit the 5) Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 54 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hook DeLoft said: Ping i525 vs. Mizuno MP 225 This difference is astonishing… Quote MavriK Sub Zero 9* on EvenFlow RipTide 6.0 50g Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 5-AW Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (second best clubs ever) Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4 E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sluggo42 said: This difference is astonishing… Yeah. I didn’t expect the i525 sole to be so much larger than the MP 225. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G425 Max Callaway Epic Max 5 wood Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood PXG 0211ST 6-GW Cobra LTx 5-GW (never hit the 5) Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 54 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 The width of the sole, the thickness of the top line and the heel to to camber of the sole are three things that look BIG to me in those pics of the i525. 1 Quote Modern Bag: 849 Pro 9*, Accra Tour Z M5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18*, & 23* Hybrids; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Raw 50*, Nippon Tour 120 X; SM9 54* / 10* / S, Wedge Flex ; Tour Action 57*, PX LZ 6.5; Ancient Anser or Heppler Fetch (depends on the week); Ball - MTB-Black; Bag - H2NO Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Both for their category are very clean looking but the 225 takes the cake. The sole and wider width face really give the i525 the look of a GI players distance vs the 225 1 Quote G425 LST 10.5 Aldilla Rogue White 70s TS3 15.5 3W Fuji Speeder Tour Spec 818 H1 19deg Hybrid Fuji Atmos White JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 50,54, and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Spider Tour Putter Vice Pro Plus White or Titleist ProV1x Hoofer Stand Bag V8 3 Wheel Push Cart 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWGolf23 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Thought this image would apply to this thread comparing Mizuno Pro 221, 223, 225. Things that are interesting to me: #1 225 PW and 9 top line, then the big jump to the 8. PW and 9 are mostly forged with a half cavity design. Then the tech comes in at the 8 and I guess a much bulkier top line #2 223 8 to 7 sole width change. The 7 is when the chromoly and tech are introduced. The 8-PW are just bigger forged blades than the 221s. #3 With the 223 7 iron sole width big jump, it's actually larger than the 225 7 iron by .4mm, and .2mm larger in the 6. #4 223 constant top line size. Overall, I really really like what Mizuno has done with the MP line this year for 223 and 225. Keep it as bladey as possible in the short irons, while progressively making them a little more forgiving as you change sets, and then introduce the tech for more forgiveness, ball speed, and distance in the mid/long. I love my MP18 blade short irons, and I could essentially keep it that way with a slightly bigger blade profile in the 223s and retain that buttery feel. Quote M1 2017 10.5° (Project X HZRDUS T1100 6.5 75g, Golf Pride CP2) M2 2017 3W 15° (Project X HZRDUS Black 6.5 75g, Golf Pride CP2) King Tec 21° dialed to 20° (Mitsubishi MMT 80x) Pro 223 PW-6, 225 5-4 (Project X LZ 6.5 125g, Golf Pride CP2) Vokey SM6 52° F-grind, 56° M-grind, 60° L-Grind TP Black Copper Juno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonstorm Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 12/9/2021 at 2:59 PM, Hook DeLoft said: Ping i210 vs. PXG 0311 P 3rd Gen Ping on the left. Could you give me a brief thoughts on forgiveness,distance,feel of these two irons (Pin i210 & PXG 0311 Gen3). Have owned many of those you show and close to getting the Gen3 0311 P. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, jacksonstorm said: Could you give me a brief thoughts on forgiveness,distance,feel of these two irons (Pin i210 & PXG 0311 Gen3). Have owned many of those you show and close to getting the Gen3 0311 P. Thanks Unfortunately, the Ping head was a demo. I haven't hit them enough to say how they compare to the 0311. However, I have gamed the 0311 since last August and find them to be very forgiving, especially on toe hits. You can hear the difference between flush and off center hits but the penalty on mishits is minimal. Of course, a huge miss is punished more but that has been the case with every iron I have owned. The feel of the 0311 is excellent. They feel really solid on good strikes. Not marshmallow soft like hitting the center of a one piece forged muscle back but very satisfying. I ordered the 0311 2 degrees strong to get the gapping I like in my wedges, so my distance is a little skewed vs. stock. I would say I get the distance I expect based on the lofts. Despite being a low spin player, I find they have as much spin as other irons with comparable lofts. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G425 Max Callaway Epic Max 5 wood Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood PXG 0211ST 6-GW Cobra LTx 5-GW (never hit the 5) Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 54 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonstorm Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Thanks great input. I made a rash decision and bit on the YouTube Takomo 101 irons (price & looks). Lot's of info on TXG, others so for $459 &$50 shipping tried to order. Emailed company (HQ in Finland made ShanHai). They kept running out. Then came out with the beautiful fully forged one piece of metal Takomo 201 Forged CB. $589 +$50 shipping =$639 but I had promised myself a set of reasonably priced irons as a second set so I ordered last set in stock with my spec KBS C-Taper Lite R. These are jewels and have had success at range but course is what counts. Just sold my Ping G410 with SteelFiber i95 reg and have a chance to replace them with the 0311 P Gen 3 with MMT 80 stiff. Fiqured those will be the more forgiving but also wanted 2 sets for other reasons. Don't mean to bore you but always appreciate when someone responds so quick with asked Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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