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I’m in the market for new irons (need some help here from those that actually know what they are talking about) and went to Club Champion for a fitting. I was targeting the 919 Hot Metal Pro’s and commenced to hitting several shaft options. Long story short, it wasn’t the best experience in the world and I won’t be purchasing the irons from them. The 919’s did not offer me any upgrade over my current TM RSi1’s but I’ll challenge that in a sec so keep with me for a moment. What did offer me better performance was Hogan PTx Pro’s (I think). So let’s jump into the data:

Current Gamers 6 iron Trackman Data – TaylorMade RSi1’s ½” over - +2 upright (they have creeped to over +3) with Project X 95 5.5 Flighted shafts (101g) @ C9

 

Club

Ball

Smash

Carry

Total

Height

Attack

Launch

Club Path

Spin Rate

 

Mph

Mph

 

Yds

Yds

Ft

Deg

Deg

Deg

Rpm

1

82.3

105.9

1.29

152.3

168.4

65

-5.5

17.1

3.3

3854

2

85.1

114.4

1.34

158.6

167

82

-5.5

16.7

0.9

6180

3

85.6

118.9

1.39

173.1

183.5

93

-4.9

17.5

1.9

4845

AVG

84.3

113.1

1.34

161.3

173

80

-5.3

17.1

2

4960

 

919 Hot Metal Pro 6 iron Trackman Data – ½” over – FLAT with KBS Tour (120g) @ D8

 

Club

Ball

Smash

Carry

Total

Height

Attack

Launch

Club Path

Spin Rate

 

Mph

Mph

 

Yds

Yds

Ft

Deg

Deg

Deg

Rpm

1

82.8

114.9

1.39

167.8

180.8

79

-3.3

16.5

0.9

4387

2

81.5

111.5

1.37

154

168.1

59

-3.7

13.1

-0.3

5213

3

81.5

112.8

1.38

158.6

168.5

81

-3.7

17.4

-1.9

5426

4

81.4

115.4

1.42

164.6

175.6

79

-3.5

16

-2.5

5140

5

85

115.8

1.36

164.7

178.7

66

-1.1

13.4

-0.9

4845

AVG

82.4

114.1

1.38

161.9

174.4

73

-3.1

15.3

-0.9

5002

 

Ben Hogan PTxPro 6 iron Trackman Data – ½” over – FLAT with KBS Tour FLT (120g) @ D8

 

Club

Ball

Smash

Carry

Total

Height

Attack

Launch

Club Path

Spin Rate

 

Mph

Mph

 

Yds

Yds

Ft

Deg

Deg

Deg

Rpm

1

84.8

119.1

1.4

169.4

180.1

80

-7.1

14.8

-4.1

5400

2

82.7

114.7

1.39

161.5

172.7

75

-2.5

15.3

-1.9

5378

3

82.4

114.6

1.39

162.2

173.6

75

-3.7

15.3

-0.5

5240

4

83.9

118.7

1.41

170.5

185.1

67

-4.3

12.8

-1.1

4690

AVG

83.5

116.8

1.4

165.9

177.9

74

-4.4

14.6

-1.9

5177

 

SOOOOOOOO here is where I’m stumped! I went to another shop and did the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer and it came back with these for my top 4 – AMT White (R), Project X LZ 5.5 (115g), DG S300 (@ 118g), KBS Tour (120g) Stiff Soft Stepped and it makes sense as I have a quicker tempo swing… Looking at my data, it appears I need more spin but that might not be the case in reality right? I don’t currently have issues “holding greens” because height and decent angles are equally important! The heavier club (@ D8) had me slightly outside-in and closing the face so doesn’t that cost me spin? I suspect the same clubs @D2 (normal for most clubs) possibly perform better because D8 is freakin heavy after a few swings in succession? Both my gamer and the HMP are 26 degree lofts and the PTx is 30 degree and I was getting only slightly better spin with more loft but strangely launch angle went down (I was really tired at that point as the Hogan was the last test after maybe an hour of swinging the club).

Am I over thinking all this? I love the KBS Tour (120g) shaft and I’m seriously considering the Sub70 699 Pro irons… but would a different shaft be better? Maybe mid/high launch like the C Taper Lite or $ Taper Lite? HELP!!!!


Driver:callaway-small: Rouge Sub-Zero
3 Wood:cobra-small: F6
Hybrid:cobra-small: F6
Irons:taylormade-small: RSi1 5-AW
Wedges:callaway-small: MD3 54 & 58
Putter:taylormade-small: TP Red Collection Ardmore 2
Ball:srixon-small: Z-Star 

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To me the ptx give you the best consistency in strike and numbers. 
 

Some added spin probably wouldn’t be a bad thing and you can get that with a ball change.

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Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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I'm no expert but numbers will be null and void once you change to a more appropriate swingweight.

D8 is quite different from your standard and/or D2.

Likely shouldn't put much stock in any of these exact numbers without that element being more accurate.

Some things should carry over, but then again .... it could all change as well.

I just realized my swing weight was off by 4 points and now I love my irons after some lead tape.  So - something you love you may not, something you didn't like - you may love.

But I sense you know some portions of this given the research and time you are investing.

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Drivers: Cobra F9 w/Atmos

FW: Cleveland HiBore 3W

Hybrid: Titleist driving iron, Titleist hybrid

Irons: Ping Eye2 3-S & TA 845s 3-W

Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56 ES s300

Putter: Ping Zing 2 33.75" , Anser 3

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curious why they had the swingweight at D8?   That's just crazy heavy.  Not very typical for a fitting I wouldn't think

 


TM M4  or TS2

EPIC 15*

Titleist 816 H1 19 & 24*

Titleist T200 5-GW

Vokey SM8  54

Vokey SM8 58

PXG Operator H 

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