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Couldn't find a thread quite like this yet, forgive me if there is one.

I'm curious what stats y'all track, how you track them, and what do you do with those stats? Does is impact your practice? Change your course management strategy? Possibly influence what's in your bag?

Personally, I use The Grint for my stats. I basically use the full (paid for) service, except for shot tracking. So I get scoring, putting, greens/fairways in reg, scrambling, penalties, etc. I use these stats to focus my practice. How do I break that down? I'm following GolfInsiderUK's guide here for some direction and pick two areas at a time to improve, then have a little spreadsheet to track my progress and practice goals from there.

It's also influenced some tweaks I've made to my driver head to miss less to the left, as well as given me extra encouragement to just aim for the middle of the green on my approach shots (which I seem to somehow forget once or twice a round 😉 ). No direct purchases influenced from the data, but it'll definitely be factored in!

So how about you?

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I believe that if you are going to track stats and apply practice to those stats, tracking each shot is the only way to do it. 

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I believe that if you are going to track stats and apply practice to those stats, tracking each shot is the only way to do it. 

Yep, you want to follow a stokes gained approach. Which clubs and which distances are causing you to lose strokes. Also want to add some dispersion metrics to see s*** tendencies.
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8 minutes ago, cnosil said:


Yep, you want to follow a stokes gained approach. Which clubs and which distances are causing you to lose strokes. Also want to add some dispersion metrics to see s*** tendencies.

One of the biggest things I have learned through DECADE in the last 6 months is KNOW YOUR DISPERSION! Once you have that established then adjust your aim point to compensate. I have missed more shots that hit the green now than ever before. It has done wonders for my course management. 

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55 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

One of the biggest things I have learned through DECADE in the last 6 months is KNOW YOUR DISPERSION! Once you have that established then adjust your aim point to compensate. I have missed more shots that hit the green now than ever before. It has done wonders for my course management. 

I keep intending on tracking them and just flat out forget once I'm on the course haha. But you've motivated me to actually do it next time I'm out!

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On 5/29/2020 at 2:41 PM, ncwoz said:

I keep intending on tracking them and just flat out forget once I'm on the course haha. But you've motivated me to actually do it next time I'm out!

Now I remember why I haven't - for some reason tracking shots with The Grint crashes the app on my phone mid round too often.


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Hybrid (18°): :tour-edge: Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here)

Irons (PW-3) :ping-small: Eye 2's

Wedges (52° & 60°): :callaway-logo-1: Mack Daddy 2's

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Hey Ncwoz,

Just a quick message to say thanks for sharing my practice guide (Golf Insider UK). I have some custom stats software I use with pro, but sadly I haven't had anytime to turn this into anything for the public yet. It might be a future plan. 

Just thought I'd drop this message in here as say feel free to ask any questions you may have around practice or performance tracking – not sure I'll be able to answer them all but very happy to share my thought.

Kind regards,

Will

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On 6/1/2020 at 10:32 AM, Will Shaw said:

Hey Ncwoz,

Just a quick message to say thanks for sharing my practice guide (Golf Insider UK). I have some custom stats software I use with pro, but sadly I haven't had anytime to turn this into anything for the public yet. It might be a future plan. 

Just thought I'd drop this message in here as say feel free to ask any questions you may have around practice or performance tracking – not sure I'll be able to answer them all but very happy to share my thought.

Kind regards,

Will

Thanks for the content you put out, and the work you put into helping the rest of us get the most out of our game!

And if you ever decide to take that to the public, I'll be all ears!

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Irons (PW-3) :ping-small: Eye 2's

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On 5/29/2020 at 11:41 AM, ncwoz said:

I keep intending on tracking them and just flat out forget once I'm on the course haha. But you've motivated me to actually do it next time I'm out!

I have been using Arccos Caddie for two years now. Here are two videos I made. Part two discusses the data analysis aspect of the shot tracking. 

 

 

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I have been using Arccos for about 6 months now and love it for tracking my game. It breaks down your handicap by 5 different parts of the game; Driving, Approach, Chipping, Sand, and Putting. That has really helped me focus on the parts of my game that are weakest and have shown gradual improvement as a result.

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2 hours ago, Rob Fellows said:

I have been using Arccos for about 6 months now and love it for tracking my game. It breaks down your handicap by 5 different parts of the game; Driving, Approach, Chipping, Sand, and Putting. That has really helped me focus on the parts of my game that are weakest and have shown gradual improvement as a result.

I love that Arccos breaks it up like that; I've definitely thought more than once about jumping in on the system!


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I use Garmin Connect/Golf and track total score, total putts, %FW (incl %L & %R) and GIR for all rounds. On my home course I also keep average score and average putts on each hole, and my dream round - currently 57 (Garmin software used to provide those stats and they inexplicably removed it, so I use Excel now). I was tracking distance with each club using AutoShot, but after 20 rounds it really didn’t tell me anything I didn’t know, so I’ve stopped that tracking.

I use the stats first for seeing if I'm improving, staying the same or getting worse, and only secondarily to dictate what I practice.


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Stats?  I don't even keep score 90% of the time.

But when I did I just kept track of score, fairways hit, greens hit, and number of putts.  didn't care about anything else and just put them into Excel.  Then I could manipulate them however I wanted.

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I don’t track stats because I play a variety of courses with different layouts and there enough variables between them as well as golf in general that im not concerned about them. 
 

I trying to get back to a practice routine that is focused on block training where I focus on working on drill(s) related to a swing aspect im working on, another block for hitting shots to targets and a third for simulating playing a course


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I keep stats on Fairways, Greens, Putts, Sand saves, chip or pitch saves.  Change my practice each week to work on what is the weakest part or where I am losing shots.  Also look at greens missed L,R, S, Long.

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4 minutes ago, Bob Jerabek said:

I keep stats on Fairways, Greens, Putts, Sand saves, chip or pitch saves.  Change my practice each week to work on what is the weakest part or where I am losing shots.  Also look at greens missed L,R, S, Long.

I always find tracking fairways hit interesting. If someone missEs the fairway by a few inches into the first cut it affects ones percentage but very rarely impacts ones ability to hit a green baring a bad shot. 
 

So if you have a week where you fairway hits went down but you missed a a few by a small distance how do you know what to work on to fix that? 


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25 minutes ago, Bob Jerabek said:

I keep stats on Fairways, Greens, Putts, Sand saves, chip or pitch saves.  Change my practice each week to work on what is the weakest part or where I am losing shots.  Also look at greens missed L,R, S, Long.

When tracking those stats how do you know what to practice?

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curious if anyone tracks number of shots from 100 or 125 and in as an example?

What about up and down stats and no this isn’t just for saving par.


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23 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

curious if anyone tracks number of shots from 100 or 125 and in as an example?

What about up and down stats and no this isn’t just for saving par.

I'm guessing I am an outlier when it comes to this but I track everything. DECADE breaks it down in a couple of different ways. Here is an example of SG breakdown by approach distance. If it is inside 50 yards (I have seen 60 used too) it falls in to the short game breakdown. 

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55 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I'm guessing I am an outlier when it comes to this but I track everything. DECADE breaks it down in a couple of different ways. Here is an example of SG breakdown by approach distance. If it is inside 50 yards (I have seen 60 used too) it falls in to the short game breakdown. 

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That seems pretty detailed and would help develop a practice strategy if one were to focus on an area 

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