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I thought of this topic because I have been playing Mizuno mp-15 irons for 2 years and I do not ever want to give them up. I plan on getting them refinished over and over rather than buying new irons unless I ever get sponsored and paid to play a certain set of clubs I believe in. Nevertheless, every year there seems to be new irons that have impressive forgiveness and offer a lot of distance to players who are seeking more. So, I'm curious, for those of you who still choose players irons year in and year out, why do you do so? I know that I do because I can't give up the feel of a well struck shot and the feedback I receive when I mishit a shot. Also, there's nothing like looking down at a blade style iron.

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Larger club heads don't do much to inspire confidence or forgiveness for me. They just look like something I have to work that much harder to get to do what I want. I've also discovered - through experimentation - that my ballstriking improves with compact club shapes (aim small miss small I guess). Even my current gamers which are fairly forgiving for players club have a blade length that is too long for my liking and I plan to eventually replace them with something smaller. Not to mention that the offset often associated with the most forgiving clubs brings the dreaded snap hook into play.

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MP-15s still have plenty of forgiveness built in so I don't think you need to worry that you're in old no tech musclebacks. It is a bit of heresy to say out loud that the data doesn't matter around here, but I think it's fine to say the data doesn't matter to you. If you like the feel of your clubs play away. Even if there's something else out there that would allow you to play your best a bit more often if you really took the time to drill down into exact fitting, your irons aren't the difference between playing for fun and playing on tour for any of us. I've played Srixon irons for ages. I used to own a retail golf store and the Srixon rep was really good to me and I thought they made great irons so I've played them ever since. I've always liked having something a little different. I have no idea if they're 100% the best fit I could possibly get but my handicap hasn't really changed in 20 years so they definitely aren't doing me any harm and they make me happy. I'm sure there's a different 4 or 5 iron out there that I could gain a little ball speed from or little more elevation out of but I'm really just looking for good enough out of those sorts of clubs anyway and these are good enough so I'm not going to worry about it.

Now as I guy who is turning 50 this year, let me say that all of those numbers probably will start mattering to me as soon as I see my yardages start to drop. I know it's coming, I just don't know when!

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For me, there are three reasons why I will continue to play a combo or a more blade style for as long as possible.

  • Looks
  • Feel
  • Dispersion 

With dispersion I'm talking more about distance control, but still some left to right.  When I can dial in my players iron to a 7 -8 yard landing area it helps so much more.  I've tried non players irons and will have that one that hits the screws and goes 25 yards over my intended distance.

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Play what you want to play

 

Unless your goal is to shoot the lowest possible scores - then you need to carefully consider what equipment will give you the best chance to shoot the lowest scores.  For most (not all) these will be clubs with some improvement built in.

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Love a blade- still got my Titleist pro blades from 30 yrs ago in the garage. If you have a decent swing you can hit anything and the new tech on previously hard to hit blades is so much better these days. I think I might even try some blades again this year, why not!

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I started with blades, played them for about a decade, then I picked up my friend's cavity back irons. Both of us had S300 shafts and I hit his at least 15 yards further. Later that winter I racked the blades and bought more forgiving clubs- R7 TPs. Last year I went back to blades and up to an X100 shafts in the Titleist 714 CBs. These are another club less than the cavity backs. I don't need distance, I need control and work ability. The bigger, more forgiving heads are designed to keep everything straight. I need to work more to get the shot shapes but it's a beauty when its all working.

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4 hours ago, oldsnick01 said:

So, I'm curious, for those of you who still choose players irons year in and year out, why do you do so? I know that I do because I can't give up the feel of a well struck shot and the feedback I receive when I mishit a shot. Also, there's nothing like looking down at a blade style iron.

I don't choose to play blades. As a 3-5 handicap golfer I've have found my current set to be the best fit for my game at this time. My irons have great feel and I too certainly know where on the face the ball is struck. They also help me produce low scores. When I look down at my irons at address I feel very confidant. I've got a very nice (like new) set of KZG blades at home but they just didn't work out as well as my current gamers. I also have two older sets of blades stacked out in the garage. I'll never play those beasts again either. As I hopefully continue to age I'll change irons later I'm sure - going with a move forgiving design. To this day I see far too many guys (ehem...players) playing irons that are ill-suited for their ability. Too each his own.

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5 hours ago, TR1PTIK said:

Larger club heads don't do much to inspire confidence or forgiveness for me. They just look like something I have to work that much harder to get to do what I want. I've also discovered - through experimentation - that my ballstriking improves with compact club shapes (aim small miss small I guess). Even my current gamers which are fairly forgiving for players club have a blade length that is too long for my liking and I plan to eventually replace them with something smaller. Not to mention that the offset often associated with the most forgiving clubs brings the dreaded snap hook into play.

Bingo!!!! I can't say my reasons better. Also my dispersion is much better. 

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I’m here. Don’t really have anything to add that hasn’t been said. Except all this [emoji652]️

 

Everyone has a different reason that they play this wonderful game... we all love.

 

For me it’s the profile of the iron, and really my set aren’t really “blades” at the moment. They are “Bladez”... still quite compact, ok(ish) looking at address, and send the ball in somewhat the direction I intended s it to go on.

 

I won’t discount any of the work here that MGS does, heck that’s why I bought my irons, I read about them on here... so as a leader in weeding through the cow crap, I got 4 great seasons out of these things.... so I’ll thank GolfSpy T for that article, and that purchase.

 

Face progression is my main reason I like them. Offset makes me want to puke. I don’t know what it is, my first “real set” were hugely offset, and before YouTube, and no lessons so I had no idea what the heck I was doing, so every thing went right. Yeah weird right, the clubface looked so closed I was opening it up. Probably had a sweet swing as a kid, but listening to a 20 capper on how to swing I had no idea. So to “fix” that offset I opened the clubface and hit fades all day. Hated it. Fast forward to my early 30’s, YouTube, etc. and here I am figuring things out.

 

I’ll probably end up with some sort of combo set by the time my project is over, but if you ask me a 34° club is a 34° club and you should get the same yardages out of it.

 

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And... all of the marketing hoopla. Sure brand A’s 7 iron goes 180, but it’s the same loft as brand B’s 6 iron.

And a lot of the other testing outfits take iron vs iron, but you could have a 4° loft difference with the same number on the bottom. So of course the launch angles, spin, and carry will be different!

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My main clubs are my KZG Forged cavity backs which are a players style cavity back but I take out my 1954 Hogan Precisions or 1958 Wilson Dyna-Powered’s and score similarly with each. I prefer a simple forged iron.

I like the feel and accuracy of persimmon woods so I play them exclusively now with my 1-3-4 woods covering my 200-250 yard distances. I choose tees that are appropriate for the distance I can hit my persimmon driver. I don’t need to play the tips to “experience the whole course”. At 6000-6400 yards, my persimmons and traditional loft irons can get the job done. I can easily throw my modern driver back in the bag if I really feel the urge to play longer courses, but that hasn’t happened in nearly 8 months.


I have no interest in hitting my irons further using hollow heads or speed foam.

The goal of iron play is ACCURACY, not distance.




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I never understood why there was such a strong opinion towards people who shouldn’t play blades. I feel confident playing my Hogan’s (prior to that it was 962b’s and 670’s) and I kept it under a 4 index. Maybe I could have been better while playing something more forgiving but my errors aren’t from irons.
 
I lose strokes because I...
 
1) lose focus
2) short game errors
3) errant drive
 
So if they look good, swing them. Who really cares anyways.
 
 
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Spot on. Spot the heck on!

Not all people are bad with irons. My driver could cost me more strokes than my iron play will ever on one or two holes!
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... To this day I see far too many guys (ehem...players) playing irons that are ill-suited for their ability. Too each his own.


Ehem... PLAYAS!!!

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One issue I see with current “forgiving” irons is the lack of spin control. Distance is the name of the game, therefore high launching, low spinning shots are the result of today’s designs. To get clubs that aren’t made this way, it’s necessary to go to more of a “player’s” iron that has a little less offset, and is a little less forgiving.

I also don’t like a big, chunky iron. I just can’t hit them, so based on that, the “thinner” top lines are usually more toward the player’s side.


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13 hours ago, PMookie said:

I also don’t like a big, chunky iron. I just can’t hit them, so based on that, the “thinner” top lines are usually more toward the player’s side.

I'm with you on this...at least the look part.  I am amazed just how much larger many of the GI thru UGI irons are as compared to my PE2... which, when they hit the market, probably looked like a sow's ear in comparison to most other irons at that time. I don't particularly care for the oversized, big offset look and would prefer to find a brand/model that has a bit more traditional/compact look.  Yeah, I know, that's a silly want - if it's the size of a garden hoe but hits long and straight, that's what one should go with...right?

I'm going back to my "Former PE2 Players" thread and re-review what some of you recommended as replacements.  Currently, I'm in data saturation, marketing spiel overload and need to do a reset.
 

 

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